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Siapa Sebelum Adam - Acescripters vs Unekpekted_XII & LANJUTAN PENEMUAN &
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Reply 20# angura
ok. papehal aku bukan ego. tapi yakin. |
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majority pengikut Ahli Sunnah Wal Jamaah disini setuju = 1 Adam.. 1 Muhammad... 1 kaabah
tapi... ade pulak puok2 yg blajar agame x tinggi sampai x tau siape pembina kaabah YAKIN.... yang neanderthal itu jin yang bile mati meninggalkan rangka |
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Uneks lar... walaupun poyo sikit |
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jika diterima pendapat sesat ini... bahawa dunia ini di 'recycle' banyak kali =
1. nanti.. satu hari mesti ada yang bertanya = Muhamamd nabi kita itu khatamun nubuwwah.. tapi ade lagi Muhammad yg dulu2 dari zaman dulu2.. so.. muhammad mana yang khatammun nubuwwah itu
2. Quran itu diturunkan di akhir zaman.. ade pulak mamat mane yg sure boleh claim jumpe 'Quran' lagi satu tersembunyik di gua Musang... dari zaman2 sebelumnye.. x ke gawat dunia ni.. kan????
3. Kaabah itu dibina sebagai RUMAH IBADAT pertama di Dunia.. even sebelum mana2 Agama = sebab Adam yang bina.. so.. tibe2 datang sorang mamat cakap.... sebelum "Adam" tu datang.. ade lagi maklukh yang awal bina Kaabah kt Gombak.. so.. korang kene revise Quran korang.. rite??
KESEMUA ini.. 'tidak mustahil'.. jika mereka memberitahu kamu semua = Allah maha berkuasa.... x mustahil..
Mati kutu korang nak jawab bile ade puak2 yg ckp mcm ni... rite?? rite???
So... sebab tu.. pengikut2 ahli sunnah wal jamaah seperti aku... tidak suka memikirkan benda2 yang memang diluar fitrah yang ditetapkan dalam Quran dan Sunnah |
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Reply 24# unekspekted_XII
aku setuju dgn aper yg ko ckp.. walau pun kdg2 apa yg ko post tu agak2 poyo....
lagi kita nak selongkar lagi mcm putar belit kita lihat.. last2 jadi sesat.. |
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Reply 25# loveocean
aku terharu bukan sebab ko.. orang orang2 lain dalam ni sokong aku
tapi aku terharu sebab.. waluapun korang tak suke aku tahap sampai nak tumbuk klu jumpe... tapi bab2 akidah korang masih lagi waras |
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Berangan jadi Pendeta
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Reply 28# thessailly
3, ko ada ke pape hujah yang kata neander thal itu
bukan
rangka yang ditinggalkan jin bila mati?? ade? |
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ade :
takde reference dlm hadith n Quran pun yg cakap = jin mati meninggal kan tulang... makan tulang ade.. mati tinggalkan tulang.. xde
Or... ko ade dapat kt mane2 yg orang x penah dengar? kitab dalam gua musang maybe?? |
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sebab kedua = diceritakan dlm Quran.. manusia dari tanah liat yg busuk.. while jin dari api.. kaitannye dengan science pulak ialah :
manusia = mati = jadi tanah = tulang or kategori scientificnya terdiri dari 'kalsium' juga adalah bahan tanah
jin??? |
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unek byk membantu aku...
trima kasih bro... |
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Post Last Edit by thessailly at 8-5-2012 19:29
Reply 29# unekspekted_XII
tak disebutkan dalam Quran @ hadis tak semestinya benda tu takde. contoh paling senang, ada Hadis @ Quran sebutkan apa2 pasal "roton Preve"?? Tapi kita tau bendalah tu mmg ada.
ko tau apa yang ada disebutkan?
1- Hadith - Sunan of Abu Dawood, Narrated Abu Sa'id al-Khudri
Muhammad ibn AbuYahya said that his father told that he and his companion went to AbuSa'id al-Khudri to pay a sick visit to him. He said: Then we came out from him and met a companion of ours who wanted to go to him. We went ahead and sat in the mosque. He then came back and told us that he heard AbuSa'id al-Khudri say: The Apostle of Allah said: Some snakes are jinn; so when anyone sees one of them in his house, he should give it a warning three times. If it return (after that), he should kill it, for it is a devil.
2 - Hadith - Al-Muwatta 54.33
...The snake stirred on the end of the spear and the youth fell dead. No one knew which of them died first, the snake or the youth. That was mentioned to the Messenger of Allah said, "There are jinn in Madina who have become muslim. When you see one of them, call out to it for three days. If it appears after that, then kill it, for it is a shaytan."
-http://muttaqun.com/jinn.html
3 - Similarly, Hazrat Thanwi rahmatullahi alaihe has narrated that:-
“Once in the city of Kufa, in Iraq, a merchant arrived and was searching for a rented accommodation. All the properties were full and someone directed him to a house which was empty and believed to be haunted. He was so tired that he did not care and decided to rent the property. When he was retiring to bed a huge black jinn came in front of him. He immediately started to recite the ‘Ayatul Kursi’. The jinn also followed his recitation and when he read the words, ‘Wala ya’uduhu hifzuhuma’ (‘And their ( the sky and the earth) safeguarding does not burden him’) the Jinn could not follow and stopped. The person understood the consequences of the words and recited the same words again and again until the jinn faded away. The merchant went to sleep and in the morning when he got up he saw the burnt ashes in the place where the jinn appeared. He was burnt by the power of Allah.”
Dari Quran laks:
The Noble Qur'an - Saad 38:35-39
35. He said: "My Lord! Forgive me, and bestow upon me a kingdom such as shall not belong to any other after me: Verily, You are the Bestower."36. So, We subjected to him the wind, it blew gently to his order whithersoever he willed,37. And also the Shayâtin (devils) from the jinns (including) every kind of builder and diver,38. And also others bound in fetters.39. [Saying of Allâh to Sulaimân (Solomon)]: "This is Our gift, so spend you or withhold, no account will be asked."
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apa yang aku nk katakan ialah,
1 - jin boleh berubah kepada bentuk fizikal, dan jin boleh dibunuh @ mati dalam keadaan itu.
2 - adakah logik ada makhluk berjisim yang boleh "membina" dan mengangkat istana tanpa ada rangka dalam badannya??daging semata-mata???
-note that jin boleh berbentuk kepada ular, kala jenking etc, jadi tak timbul isu 'jasad fizikal jin berbeza dengan bentuk makhluk biasa'...bentuknya mungkin berbeza, tapi ia masih mengikut hukum yang sama. ada kulit, ada daging, ada organ2 penyokong kehidupan. |
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yg pasal kalsium tu...
"And God has created every animal from water: of them there are some that creep on their bellies; some that walk on two legs; and some that walk on four. God creates what He wills for verily God has power over all things. (The Noble Quran, 24:45)"
-nampaknya binatang dicipta dari air, tapi masih meninggalkan tulang bila mati. so kalau ko kate jin tak meninggalkan tulang bila mati sebab jin dicipta dari api, itu FALLIBLE. Arguable. |
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ada apa2 pertikaian lain wahai cik unekspekturd yg bijaksana dan ramai pengikutnya? |
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Kita tengok je Jawa sama Jawa bergaduh
Melayu tepuk tangan |
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sambil pompuan bugis gila jadik batu api ..oo yeahhh |
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Teruskan untuk mendedahkan tahap keilmuan.... makin banyak makin nampak la tu... |
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