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Mahathir is right: Jews do rule the world

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Post time 28-10-2003 06:36 AM | Show all posts |Read mode
Mahathir is right: Jews do rule the world

from : http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/EJ28Aa02.html

Just because you are paranoid it doesn't prove that they are not out to get you. Paranoid, to be sure, was Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad's allegation that the "Jews rule this world by proxy" on October 16. Whether Dr Mahathir himself is paranoid, or whether he adapted his words to the paranoia of his audience makes little difference. Through the twisted prism of paranoia, the facts on the ground do indeed suggest that the Jews rule the world.

Europeans who turn up their noses at Malaysia's leader should recall that just 60 years ago, Europe's official ideology (under Nazi conquest) agreed with Mahathir's claim that the Jews "invented and successfully promoted socialism, communism, human rights and democracy". That is where Mahathir doubtless got the idea in the first place. Not only Adolf Hitler, but the highest circles of the Catholic Church believed that communism was a Jewish plot, as a Swiss priest, Father Martin Rhonheimer, documents in the November 2003 issue of First Things.

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more:

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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/ ... 29-FD61176D52F9.htm
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The Malaysian prime minister has condemned the ''double standards'' of those who criticised him for saying Jews rule the world.

Mahathir Muhammad said the international community's indignation was in stark contrast to their reaction when the Prophet Muhammad was called a ''terrorist''.

He said on Monday: "Are we not allowed to say that we are angry with the Jews? Are the Jews some kind of creature who cannot be condemned in any way?"

Mahathir, who is due to retire on 31 October, said he knew a lot of Jewish people and was not against them

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"When I criticise the Jews, the whole of the European Union wants to condemn me... But when somebody... calls my Prophet a terrorist and all that, did the European Union say anything? Which shows that they are under the thumb of the Jews"

Mahathir Muhammad,
Malaysian PM
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 Author| Post time 28-10-2003 06:42 AM | Show all posts

Mahathir stands by Jewish remarks

Mahathir stands by Jewish remarks
October 27, 2003

from:
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/10/27/1067233092757.html

Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad has hit back against those who condemned him for saying that Jews rule the world but were silent when the Muslim Prophet Muhammad was called a terrorist.

"Are we not allowed to say that we are angry with the Jews? Are the Jews some kind of creature who cannot be condemned in any way?" Mahathir asked when questioned by reporters about the fierce international criticism of his remarks.

He said he knew a lot of Jewish people and was not against them, the official Bernama news agency reported.

"I am against those Jews who kill Muslims and the Jews who support the killers of Muslims," he was quoted as saying.

Mahathir said that he did not care if the Europeans, who were among his major critics, did not like him.

"I have European friends. But when they do something wrong, I am going to tell them that it is wrong.

"You say that you are not under the influence of the Jews and yet when I criticise the Jews, the whole of the European Union wants to condemn me.

"But when somebody condemns the Muslims, calls my Prophet (Muhammad) terrorist and all that, did the European Union say anything? Which shows that they are under the thumb of the Jews."

US Christian fundamentalist preacher Jerry Falwell called Muhammad a "terrorist" in a television interview in September last year, sparking outrage in the Muslim world.

More recently, a United States general has been under fire for casting the war on terrorism as a Christian struggle against Satan, but retains his post as deputy undersecretary of defence for intelligence.

Lieutenant General William Boykin recalled in a speech how a top lieutenant of Somali warlord Mohammed Farah Aidid, Osman Otto, boasted on CNN he would never be caught because Allah would protect him.

"Well, you know what?" Boykin was quoted as saying. "I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol."

Mahathir regularly points to such utterances as proof of double standards applied in western countries.

Asked why some Muslim leaders did not openly express support over his remarks about Jews, Mahathir said that possibly they were afraid that action would be taken against them.

"They are much weaker than we are. They may have more money but they are still dependent upon the Europeans.
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Post time 28-10-2003 05:20 PM | Show all posts
the bottomline is malaysian pm has guts
who dares to whack one n only superpower bush HARDblunt n with HARDproofs like malaysian pm?  no one  :bg:

peace
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 Author| Post time 28-10-2003 07:26 PM | Show all posts
oi sfetalk ****  where is your stupid comments?

credits deducted

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Post time 29-10-2003 03:34 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by planb at 28-10-2003 06:42 AM:
Mahathir stands by Jewish remarks
October 27, 2003
"You say that you are not under the influence of the Jews and yet when I criticise the Jews, the whole of the European Union wants to condemn me.

"But when somebody condemns the Muslims, calls my Prophet (Muhammad) terrorist and all that, did the European Union say anything? Which shows that they are under the thumb of the Jews."

The *******  really said that, huh!

Which nations leader said that "prophet"Muhammad was a terrorist?
Even though thru hadiths we get the information that "prophet" Muhammad did terrorise the Jews.

No leaders dare speak the truth openly when it comes to Islam. No Prime Minister or President of any non-muslim nation dare offend the muslims. Their behaviours are civilised and politically-correct... unlike the muslim leaders.

Hope the non-muslim Malaysian citizens like me don't have to bear the consequence of the racialist remarks made by this out-going *******.:cf:

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Post time 29-10-2003 09:40 AM | Show all posts
You yourself are being a racist Faithealer wityh your own words ...'The mamak Kutty really said that, huh!'

It really humors me a lot to see someone who tries to prove a point by pointing a certain criteria to discredit a person, yet he himself was far more worst and does not carry any credibility to uphold the garbage he preaches.
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Post time 29-10-2003 03:01 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Jukebox at 29-10-2003 09:40 AM:
You yourself are being a racist Faithealer wityh your own words ...'The ******* really said that, huh!'


Hi Jukebox
Are you denying or unaware that the racist Dr.M is of Indian origin?
Mamaks( common term used for Indian muslim) in Malaysia are prospering while other Indian are discriminated... specially the Chinese.  Even he himself had admitted to this.

Me calling Dr.M a ******* ( his forgotten Clan name from India), which does him no harm, unlike his statements which incites hate against the Jews. Giving speech as a leader, calling the Jew as the enermy of Islam and junk. Telling the muslims not to attack the Jew by useless means(i.e suicide boms) but to get rid of the 6million Jews by other means.

I had some respect for the man until he showed his true colour. . He says he is retiring, we will wait see, he already gave a huge problem to Badawi.

keep on mentioning it as you are very near to being a beggar....we have rules in here & what u r doing is against the rule

  WHAT EVER

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Post time 29-10-2003 03:16 PM | Show all posts
Anyway, this ***** brought so much  development to this country. does malaysian apperciate that? NO. If we Malaysian hate our own ****** (PM) then world is going to laugh at us.

another one that gets his credits deducted

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Post time 29-10-2003 03:27 PM | Show all posts
mmm...... don't talk crap about Dr M! It doesn't bother me whether he's ***** or not, he's still Malaysia PM. do not bark at him in Malaysian forum! i will not tolerate such remarks! :cool:

Acong, you are a moderator...so please show good examples

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Post time 29-10-2003 03:59 PM | Show all posts
Yeah Dr.M did many stuff, some good some bad. I support many dicision made by him but not the one he made at the OIC meeting.

He displayed to the world how paranoid one can get... The problem with the muslim world is the muslim leaders themselves.. not the Jews. And thats the fact that you people can't see.
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Post time 29-10-2003 04:05 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Acong at 2003-10-29 03:27 PM:
mmm...... don't talk crap about Dr M! It doesn't bother me whether he's mamak kutty or not, he's still Malaysia PM. do not bark at him in Malaysian forum! i will not tolerate such remarks! :cool:

He maybe Malaysian PM, he may be your idol, you may worship him or pray to him, but that does not make him a God.
He is a human who makes mistakes... obvious one at that.
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Post time 29-10-2003 04:17 PM | Show all posts
faith healer,

i beg to differ. if you listened to his complete oic speech, then you know that this is his best speech. he called to all muslims not to fight the jews by means that we are doing now: i.e. suicide bombings, weapons, wars. he asked muslims to use their brain intelligently on how to outsmart the jew govt. who actually, in truth 'rule' the world. there is nothing wrong in that. misinterpretation might arise, but i guess that's the risk he has to take to 'wake up' the muslims.

he is not infallible, but at least he has what we called gut, which other pm, presidents, i.e. goh chok tong lacks!
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Post time 29-10-2003 04:55 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 29-10-2003 04:05 PM:
He maybe Malaysian PM, he may be your idol, you may worship him or pray to him, but that does not make him a God.
He is a human who makes mistakes... obvious one at that.

nak kata bangang ko marah! bila aku start memuja orang nie?! when did i mention that we/he as a mortal being made no mistake?!
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Post time 29-10-2003 05:57 PM | Show all posts
hi lost soul

Dr.M was taking about enermies of Islam and how to defeat them. He was talking about how "prophet" Muhammad managed to defeated the Jews.

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We need guns and rockets, bombs and warplanes, tanks and warships for our defence. ....
We have to buy our weapons from our detractors and enemies."                 

Is it true that 1.3 billion people can exert no power to save themselves from the humiliation and oppression inflicted upon them by a much smaller enemy?
The 1.3 billion Muslims cannot be defeated by a few million Jews.

We are actually very strong
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Post time 29-10-2003 07:24 PM | Show all posts
Good points there,FaithHealer!
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Post time 30-10-2003 08:53 AM | Show all posts
#Sniper_Wolf 7 ( " Let's get it on" ) :
about the america defeating the nazis and japan is a good thing but, that is just part of their propaganda. to show the world to fear them by using the atomic bom. ("Penjajah, tetap penjajah" ) . it seems that you too worshiping this amarica and forget our brave soldier who die to protec or country. you really like to be under the wing of american. you are the same as the few/ most singaporian than.

it doesn't care if Dr. M is a mamak, as long he is a muslim and think about his people comfort, he is my 6th idol. i think you making it up about the rest of the jews we muslim must kill them. ("salah tafsir membawa bencana kepada alam" ) We will kill if been provoke. just the same situation if your little brother or sister been pick on by some one. will you leave it like that or schold the picker?

no muslim world? i think not. when the jap occupied malaya, islam still remaind the same. only the chinese are been torture. that is because the jap hate the chinese. you should say there is no malaysia.
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Post time 30-10-2003 09:39 AM | Show all posts
faith healer,

again it is all depends on individual interpretation. he did mention about european killing 6 million of jew, and he mention that the left of them could become what they become now. for me, it ignites me to think on how to oevrcome jews not by sacrificing the young ones by suicide bombing, but by standing together and fight for your right, intelligently. if jews, even in a small number could be what they are now, a superpower of the wotld who control world by proxy, why can't the muslims be on the same level as them? he's not talking about killing jews, but invite muslims to change their attitude, perspective, and be on the same bench as jews, as muslims now are treated as underdogs.

c'mon, don't tell me that jews are the victims. they are prey, and they have been opressing palestinians since they occupied the land. just place yourself in one of the palestinian's shoes, not able to have freedom to move around, freedom to speak, and even freedom to live as the zionist armies stalking their street all the times, and you could get shot even by small sign of retaliation. and we the world will just stand here and watch coz the israel govt. are supported by the american? hmpph!

and why jews and americans feel so angry about dr. m. remarks? becoz it is the truth? as usual, the truth is hard to swallow, as the truth is hurtful!
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Post time 30-10-2003 09:54 AM | Show all posts
meaning to say, allah has not been guiding muslims all this while or muslims are doing their own things disregarding allah.

I think muslims shld not be fighting jews andmahathir shouldnot sow race hatred.
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Post time 30-10-2003 11:36 AM | Show all posts
as usual, sfe storms in the discussion and start open fire without reading the posts properly. such a foolish remarks!

ah! by the way, the answer to the other thread opened by you: Allah is always there, but muslims have to use their Allah gifted brains more efficiently than before and start by standing together, not stand apart and watch!

your stupid question again proves that you do not do any analytical thinking! or may be your brain can't do any analytical thinking at all?

guess you will cp.m. mr. mod again and say "lostsoul is hurting my feelin' here. plls edit her!.  
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