Kedah Altered Its Imperial Name From Zabag to Java in mid 13th Century

Bedah.Cun

Malunya jadi hrndon, udahlah goblok, cengeng lagi

corta

Bedah.Cun replied at 21-12-2017 04:56 PM
Heh bodoh, tuan thread ni jer yang hadap klaim. Tak payah nak impose kat orang lain. Dasar babhu t ...

Heh bodoh, tuan thread ni memang cerminan orang asli malon yg kaki klaim. sangat payah nak impose kat orang lain. Dasar babhu takde otak. Kau hengat aii neh suka ker malon? Lain lar ngkau, ngkau makan nasik lauk  blacan dan rendang babi

Bedah.Cun

corta replied at 20-12-2017 09:02 PM
Heh bodoh, tuan thread ni memang cerminan orang asli malon yg kaki klaim. sangat payah nak impose  ...

Malunya jadi hendhonn, udahlah babhu cengeng pula tu

corta

Bedah.Cun replied at 21-12-2017 05:04 PM
Malunya jadi hendhonn, udahlah babhu cengeng pula tu

jawe ialah asli org malon indon tak boleh klaim

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corta replied at 20-12-2017 04:32 PM
malon menjajah sampai afrika? dasar malon penghisap kote negro

Bodohnya engkau babu. Yang jajah afrika adalah melayu. Yang hisap kote adalah negro, malon, indon, india dan sebagainya

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corta replied at 20-12-2017 12:45 AM
klaimlah semua hey babhi majapahit pun asal semenanjung tak gitu

Majapahit bapok kaki khayal semua orang pulau jawa la pok

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Yijing himself never said Ka-Cha came under Srivijaya domination. It was some nitwit going by the name O.W. Wolters who made that wacky allegation. And then many other crackhead professors right down to this day jumped in the bandwagon. What Yijing said was that by the time Chinese monks returning to China reach Ka-Cha from India, a ship from  Bhoja would have arrived in Kacha. He was describing the traffic of monks from China going to India as well during the sailing season which was determined by wind patterns. Those pothead historians claim that their iteration is based on a different translation version of Yijing's notes but how would they explain it being contradictory to Yijing's statement implying Ka-Cha is Sibhoja when he said his friend Wu Hing arrived in Sibhoja from China before sailing to Malayu and then he sailed back to Ka-Cha?

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The entire episodes concerning Bhoja,Sibhoja,Malayu and Ka-Cha in Yijing's notes give an impression that Ka-Cha a.k.a. Sibhoja formed an alliance with Bhoja which could be the Bujang valley region of today and then they absorbed or recruited Malayu to form Srivijaya. That should explain the Kedukan Bukit inscription desctibing their conquest of Sumatera using the Kampar river mouth in Malayu in conjunction with amphibous invasion from the peninsula.

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Malayu looks like a perfect partner for Kedah to form Srivijaya with. In the mid 13th century when they were no longer a part of Kedah empire , Malayu formed an impressive empire of its own in the Indian Ocean rim. Holding Madagascar, Maldives. various parts of eastern Africa and Yemen. The period when Cambodia was called Khmer was also attributed to their rule.

In this one ends the continent of the Soudan which stretches from the extreme west up to Djabal al Nadama (4), further on the sea covers all that is to the east, at the longitude of the island of Qoumr. The beginning of Djabal al Nadama (4) is the beginning of this section at 108 deg and a min longitude, it is said that it goes up in the air for three days in height. Its color is a mix of dust and red and it stretches along the limit of the inhabited places at 16 deg lat for about 20 days of these about 14 days along the sea, its end is at 117 deg 30 min longitude. The sea al-Mouhit (29) coming from the south-east reaches its southern part, in the north is the channel of Al-Qoumr. When a boat from the sea of Hind enters this channel the waters and wind pouch it till you see this mountain, one regrets not to have taken precautions and accepts the fatality, then one gets shipwrecked, or one gets behind the mountain after which there is no more news about the ship, and it is unknown what has happened, it is said that there waves that don’t stop turning the ship till it submerges. The travelers on the sea of Hind call this place the sea of destruction and sea of Canopus because when entering Canopus is seen above the heads. Under this mountain, in the channel of al-Qoumr is the town of Daghouta (58) last town of Soufala and last place inhabited on the east coast which goes on till the (surrounding) sea. She is situated at 109 deg longitude and 12 deg latitude in the north there is a gulf where descends a river from the mountain of al Qoumr, it is said it has the same source as the river of Sayouna (24).



Among the towns and islands of al-Qoumr who are the residence of their kings and who are in this seventh section is Daemi at 112deg 30 min longitude and 3 deg latitude. East of this town descends a gulf fed by a big river: this gulf is bend in an arc and the sea enters along the town till it touches close to the equator. At the end of the arc is situated the town of Balbaq also one of the residences of their kings of the island at 118 deg 30 min longitude and 1 deg latitude. In the east is an island that is called after the town, this island is about 2 deg long west to east and wide about 1 deg. In the east of Balbaq is a big river shaped in an arc, this is the river of Lirana (27), it descends from the Djabal al Ouyoun (66) 8 days long on foot from east to west, from its sources descend 5 small rivers up to the bend of that river, then the bent continues up to the sea of Lirana (27) and the sea of Balbaq. East of Balank is Sirandib (30) Island.



[Ibn Sa'id then describes the island of Sirandib (30) which is at 124 ° longitude and 1 ° 30 'and minutes (sic) latitude; cites its capital Aghna, the Mountain of Rahun]. On the arc of the southern sea of Sirandib, he then said, are the famous ghobb or gulfs of Sirandib (30) which go south. They are four in number, deep. In each of them flows one of the rivers of the island of Komr. The western ghobb is in the 7th section; the next one, in the 8th. Then come the third, then the fourth [ghobb], at the same time as the end of the above-mentioned arc.



Eighth Section



The first thing that one meets there among the capitals of the island of Komr, it is the town of Khafura which is by 130 ° of longitude and 1 ° of latitude [southern] on the great gulf, to the east of the gulfs of Sirandib (30). In the northern part [of Khafura], falls the river which descends from the mountain dominating the city of Komoriyya. East of [Khafura] is the capital Dimala, which is on the sea, 143 ° longitude and 0 ° 30 ' latitude. To the east of this [last] city, falls a river which descends from the great river. In this section there are two mountains: one, south of Dimala, from which a long river flows which emerges into the third ghobb; the other, near the middle of the distance between the two capitals. [This one] is close to the South Sea and there are three small rivers that flow into the long river.
Ninth Section

There are towns and inhabited countries that are part of the island of Komr, which are not known. The only city mentioned is the former capital of the island. At times, the ruler of this town ruled most of the island; this capital is Komoriyya . It is 154° long, over a vast gulf that stretches three degrees in length from the equator and about equal width. This town takes its name from the Komr which descend from Amur son of Japheth. The Chinese are related to them by Amur.



[The Komr] lived with the Chinese in the eastern parts of the earth. Discord having arisen between them, the Chinese drove them to the islands and they remained there [in these islands] for a while. The title of their king was Kamrun. Then, the discord arose between them while they were in these islands which we will speak about later. So the people who were not part of the royal family went to this great island and their sultan resided in the city of Komoriyya. Then they increased in number and they swarmed to the capitals mentioned [above]; they split up into small independent kingdoms. Discord then arose between them because they had become numerous. Many of them went to populate the south, at the beginning of the inhabited land, along the mountain that bears their name. The ignorant call this mountain djabal Kamr, putting a falha on the k. (56)



In this large island, the length of which is four months [of walking] and the greatest breadth of twenty days [of walking], there are great rivers, the largest of which is the Khafura river in which the great sea vessels sail with full load, thanks to its depth and width. Its length between its mouth which is at the eastern end of the island, and the place where it flows under Khafura, is about two months [of walking]. On its banks there are great trees, each of which is made [the kind] of ships by which these people are known, and in which there are a hundred rowers. [This kind of ship] is hollow and has a deck on which [can] sit a hundred people. It is mentioned in books and well known by travelers accounts. [The natives] make houses [which rest] on boats with these woods. They connect them with ropes; and when one of them loathes his neighbor, he moves to another neighbor. Likewise, when a fire breaks out in the neighboring house, [the inhabitant of the nearest house] lets go of the ropes [by means of which] his house [is held up] and thus avoids the fire.



We find [in this island] the great bird known as the rokh, which is said to cover a village with shadow [with its wings]. With his claws, he takes small elephants, and gives them to his young as food. With the full part of their feathers, they make bridges to pass over waterways, and with the hollow part, containers for water (60).



There are in this island, oxen dragging the wagons. Each is the size of three oxen from our country. In each of their horns, one can put a thousand mann of oil. Their oil is thick; they use it for lighting. It is supplied by the fat of the large animals which they hunt at sea.



[The natives] have a weed with which they weave the excellent multicolored fabrics that are exported to Iraq and Yemen. We find in the island, bananas, sugar [cane] and coconut. [With the fibers of the coconut tree], they make ship cables with which they consolidate the boards [of the ships]. Their main culture is betel (31), which resembles the vine in that it rolls up and the laurel, by its leaf. They use the leaf with a little bread and water and make a perfume of it, an intoxicating liquor and a drug which gives them pleasure. It is the equivalent of wine for the people of India. [The natives] physically look more like the Chinese than the Indians.

It is the same with their clothes. They worship Buddhas like the people of India and China. Dominating the town of Komoriyya is the mountain which takes its name from it; it rises [to a height] of about three degrees. There are many rivers [flowing] down from it towards the immense river of Khafura. Its eastern part flows [into the sea?] At the end of the island, on the eastern side; the western part [of the river flows] below Khafura. The sea which bathes [the island] lengthwise, from the south side, merges, from the south, with the Surrounding Ocean. It is said that no one enters [into this sea], neither the people of this island, nor those of another country. Those who do so by accident perish in its whirlpools. One travels only in the North Sea of India, and in the two seas on both sides, east and west (sic)

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