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Contradictions in the bible

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Post time 27-11-2003 04:11 PM | Show all posts
Pas says allah is samseng and Unmo says allah is not samseng
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Post time 27-11-2003 04:33 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 27-11-2003 04:11 PM:
Pas says allah is samseng and Unmo says allah is not samseng

  tot u guys were talking 'bout diff. things?
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Post time 27-11-2003 04:58 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 2003-11-27 04:11 PM:
Pas says allah is samseng and Unmo says allah is not samseng


assalamualaikum

that is not in the quran. ini adalah permasalahan bahasa. kenapa tiba-tiba ke politik pula perginya? kita berbicara mengenai AGAMA( kitab suci)  bukan MANUSIA(parti politik). jangan beralih arah. marilah pertahankan agama anda.

wassalam
ALLAH LEBIH MENGETAHUI
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Post time 27-11-2003 05:01 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Addicted at 2003-11-27 04:09 PM:
Bleh, no hal punye
But first, please ask baiduri to show me the proof about her accusation about "white church & black church " tu. Boleh tak??

Dier takleh bg jawapan, she tell ...


assalamualaikum.
janganlah beralih arah. itu antara kamu dengan dialah...anyway, saya tak faham mengenai pertanyaan anda. maklumlah, saya ni bukannya pandai sangat. kita berbicara mengenai AGAMA (kitab suci) bukan MANUSIA (baiduri)
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Post time 27-11-2003 05:28 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by azrie87 at 27-11-2003 05:01 PM:
assalamualaikum.
janganlah beralih arah. itu antara kamu dengan dialah...anyway, saya tak faham mengenai pertanyaan anda. maklumlah, saya ni bukannya pandai sangat. kita berbicara mengenai AGAMA ( ...


Paham. Memang kita cakap agama. Paham sangat
Masalahnyer, org islam ni ada problem sikit. Bila dia tanya, kita jawab, tapi bila kita tanya dia balik, dia tak mau jawab.

Ini membuatkan saya langsung tak bermotivasi. Lagipun isu contradiction in bible ni awak bleh dpt jawapannya kat answering islam. Cari la.... semuanya ada kat situ. Hendak seribu daya,  tak seribu dalih beb
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Post time 27-11-2003 08:53 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by azrie87 at 27-11-2003 03:42 AM:
assalamualaikum...

saya hairan, mengapa tiada reply yang mempertahankan 15 percanggahan di atas? mana .8?  agak menarik kalau dia ada di sini. bolehlah kita berbincang bersama-sama. saya pun nak ...


We don't need to "mempertahankan" anything. The bible can defend itself if one really reads it. I have proven gray wrong once before, and I do not have to prove him wrong again.

Want proof? Pick up a copy of the bible, or go online and search for ANYONE of the said "percanggahan" and you'll get the real picture. Do not be misled but one-liners.

Taking just one phrase out of a whole paragraph is dangerous and immature.

Truth.8 doesn't read the bible. He only reads pornographic magazine, and he has an incestual relationship with his ... er... figure out yourself.
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Post time 28-11-2003 12:27 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by misled_youth at 2003-11-27 08:53 PM:
We don't need to "mempertahankan" anything. The bible can defend itself if one really reads it. I have proven gray wrong once before, and I do not have to prove him wrong again.

Want  ...


oh ok, of like that, which version of the bible should i read? the translation or the original? i must say here that i believe in INJIL. u have proven to gray mah ? why not me? heheh...i also wanna know.

wassalam
GOD KNOWS BETTER

PEACE
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Post time 28-11-2003 12:31 AM | Show all posts
Any Bible will do.
The Injil that you Muslims talk about does not exist. You can't believe in it even if yu want to.
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Post time 28-11-2003 01:09 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by azrie87 at 28-11-2003 12:27 AM:
oh ok, of like that, which version of the bible should i read? the translation or the original? i must say here that i believe in INJIL. u have proven to gray mah ? why not me? heheh...i also wanna ...


Azrie,

From your query itself, I doubt that you will read, let alone understand (but if you do read, then I apologise). Different sorts of versions whether you are talking about the King James Bible or NIV, the substance or rather, the essence of the message remains constant and clear. The different translations used are merely different ways of expressing the same thing.
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Post time 28-11-2003 09:49 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by WinterNights at 28-11-2003 01:09 AM:
Azrie,

From your query itself, I doubt that you will read, let alone understand (but if you do read, then I apologise). Different sorts of versions whether you are talking about the King James B ...

hmm but all the translations merely shows a totally different meanings..it NEVER happens in the Al-Quran..  
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Post time 28-11-2003 10:01 AM | Show all posts
When you said that, it just shows that you have never read the Bible.
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 Author| Post time 28-11-2003 10:07 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by misled_youth at 27-11-2003 08:53 PM:
We don't need to "mempertahankan" anything. The bible can defend itself if one really reads it. I have proven gray wrong once before, and I do not have to prove him wrong again.

Want  ...


Excuse me, when was that? I've never ever recalled you proving me wrong over anything. Try pasting the url to make your claim credible and if one of your replies i have overlooked, it might be because of Aidilfitri.
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 Author| Post time 28-11-2003 10:08 PM | Show all posts
16. God's anger is fierce and endures long
          Num 32:13/ Num 25:4/ Jer 17:4
         God's anger is slow and endures but for a minute
          Ps 103:8/ Ps 30:5

     17. God commands, approves of, and delights in burnt offerings,   
         sacrifices ,and holy days
          Ex 29:36/ Lev 23:27/ Ex 29:18/ Lev 1:9
         God disapproves of and has no pleasure in burnt offerings,   
         sacrifices, and holy days.
          Jer 7:22/ Jer 6:20/ Ps 50:13,4/ Is 1:13,11,12

     18. God accepts human sacrifices
          2 Sam 21:8,9,14/ Gen 22:2/ Judg 11:30-32,34,38,39
         God forbids human sacrifice
          Deut 12:30,31
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Post time 28-11-2003 10:25 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ukawa at 28-11-2003 09:49 AM:
hmm but all the translations merely shows a totally different meanings..it NEVER happens in the Al-Quran..  


It all points to the same direction if you read and comprehend with your heart (something which *****s like SFE don't understand).

Cheers yo!

Gray: It's in the thread about bible violence.
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Post time 29-11-2003 12:34 AM | Show all posts
sorry guys!i'm not good to be like you to bang me...just clik this and please read carefully than come back then bang me again.
tq

http://kalibat.tripod.com/bab1.html

[ Last edited by retro on 29-11-2003 at 12:36 AM ]
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Post time 29-11-2003 12:46 AM | Show all posts
Gray,

I can truly say that you have not read the Bible and this is just one of your 'Click & paste'...you have no intention of learning or understanding...you are just here to provoke and incite others.

18. God accepts human sacrifices
          2 Sam 21:8,9,14/ Gen 22:2/ Judg 11:30-32,34,38,39
         God forbids human sacrifice
          Deut 12:30,31

Let me explain why:-

Genesis 22
Now it came to pass after these things that God TESTED Abraham, and said to him, "Abraham!" And he said, "Here I am."
2 Then He said, 'Take now your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love,and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you."

Verse 12:-
And He said, "Do not lay your hand on the lad, or do anything to him;for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me."

Clearly, God does not accept human sacrifices!! Please lah...READ THE BIBLE, is that so that hard to understand??

As for verses in Judges,if you just read the chapter, you would see that God does not accept human sacrifices.

Haih...I just don't have the energy left to explain something so fundamental. I feel like throwing personal insults at you...but maybe it has been a long day for me. So, have a nice day and I hope you will read up the particular verses and CHAPTERS in detail.
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 Author| Post time 30-11-2003 04:01 AM | Show all posts
I was being cheeky in that thread by the way M_Youth

WinterN, i see that you are new to my threads. I have read 7 of the popular  versions of the bibles (New International Version, New American Standard Version, New King James Version, Revised Standard Version, New Revised Standard Version, The Living Bible and the New Century Version)

And see what we found in this thread <--- click

Deuteronomy 4:2 reads: "YE SHALL NOT ADD unto the word which I command you, NEITHER SHALL YE DIMINISH ought from it . . ."

Proverbs 30:6, reads, "ADD THOU NOT unto his words . . ."

One of many

Mark 14:24, King James Bible
And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.

Mark 14:24, New Century Version
Then Jesus said, "This is my blood which is the new agreement that God makes with his people. This blood is poured out for many.

[ Last edited by Gray on 30-11-2003 at 04:22 AM ]
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 Author| Post time 30-11-2003 04:06 AM | Show all posts
19. God temps men
          Gen 22:1/ 2 Sam 24:1/ Jer 20:7/ Matt 6:13
         God temps no man
          James 1:13

     20. God cannot lie
          Heb 6:18
         God lies by proxy; he sends forth lying spirits t deceive
          2 Thes 2:11/ 1 Kings 22:23/ Ezek 14:9

     21. Because of man's wickedness God destroys him
          Gen 6:5,7
         Because of man's wickedness God will not destroy him
          Gen 8:21
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Post time 30-11-2003 09:37 AM | Show all posts
there may be contradictions in the bible but more often we tend to stick to the positive side of the bible

likewise when theres contradictions in jesus' words eg father n i r 1 n father is greater than i,  we tend to stick to the postive side that bible dont lie but man did lie.  we unitarian christians believe st paul n twoness priets have lied when they say hes god almighty when hes born from his creation mary, can pizz, shit n die

deception is the name of the game that st paul n twoness priets played n blind trinity n twoness followers have committed blasphemy  :bg:

peace
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 Author| Post time 1-12-2003 12:11 AM | Show all posts
At that time when Paul alledgedly claims that he was temporarily blinded by Jesus and healed by Ananias, Jews believed so much in mystics and supernatural mumbo jumbo and that was the perfect cue for Paul to use as leverage to misled them into believing the new religion that he himself created.
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