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[Tempatan] Unassisted Homebirth (Kes Kematian Terbaru #1772 pg71)

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 Author| Post time 2-1-2014 02:22 AM | Show all posts
tinker_bell posted on 2-1-2014 02:01 AM
pergi spital goverment nak demand mcm ni..kalau aku pon aku hempuk..nak sgt gb pergi swasta..bukan ...


Babe, i couldnt find defination for gentle birth. Tolong cari!
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 Author| Post time 2-1-2014 02:26 AM | Show all posts
tinker_bell posted on 2-1-2014 02:01 AM
pergi spital goverment nak demand mcm ni..kalau aku pon aku hempuk..nak sgt gb pergi swasta..bukan ...


Ada yg tak practical dlm list tu. Contoh : Aircond temporary turn down / switch off during placenta delivery. If deliver dkt hosp, mcm mana nak switch off centralised aircond? Nak bagi satu hosp tu kepanasan ker apa?
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Post time 2-1-2014 02:47 AM | Show all posts
juliez posted on 2-1-2014 12:06 AM
Melayu islam. Tapi doula dah terconfuse penggunaan arwah & mendiang

bangang arwah n mendiang pun xreti..wah alamat tu dekat ngan rumah aku,nak skodeng la esok
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Post time 2-1-2014 03:10 AM | Show all posts
dgn ilmu yg sgt cetek ni aku ada persoalan..
HARUS belajr ilmu hitam tuk lindungi keluarga???
seriously??
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Post time 2-1-2014 03:22 AM | Show all posts
juliez posted on 2-1-2014 02:22 AM
Babe, i couldnt find defination for gentle birth. Tolong cari!

GentleBirth is a complete childbirth preparation programme that teaches easy self hypnosis techniques which enable you to feel calm, confident and in control throughout your pregnancy and during your labour. Created by Irish midwife and hypnotherapist Tracy Donegan, GentleBirth provides you with the road map to a fulfilling, empowered, dignified birth experience in whatever direction your body and baby will take you – in hospital or at home – with or without an epidural. The program also supports your partner in their significant role during the birth process.
kalau ikut beberapa website kokesen gentlebirth and hypnobirth ni a programme..gentlebirth ni pengasas dia dr ireland..hypnobirth ni dr us..tp both guna hypnosis method..benda ni courses..yg boleh belajar through cd..buku..atau internet jah..atau workshop/ attend classes..so kalau lahirkan secare gentle birth bmaksud kita mlahirkn anak scara calm,confident and in control gituh..tp bgik pndpat i..gentle birth ni lahirkan anak secara kaedah sesat gituh...dua2 ekor pengasas tu hypnotherapist uoll..hypnosis ni pseudoscience jah..ptt la ummah pgikut gentlebirth kata ilmu hitam ni boleh belajar..lol..pengasas pon ummah pseudoscience yg ioll rasa tahap iq umah2 yg percaya et..harry potter and teori konspirasi etc tu wujud..

mmandangkn gentlebirth ni bermula dr ireland..ioll google lah stastistik berapa org yg homebirth dkt ireland..tahun 2012 dekat seluruh ireland tu uoll..cuma 176 org jah..atau mewakili 0.2% kelahiran..tu pon ada midvives/doctor yg attend..yg kt msia ade bidan bdaftar kt kkm boleh beranak kt rumah sorang2 mcm bohsia kt jamban!!tak fikir ker risiko anak cacat..anak mati..atas nama nak beranak dlm keadaan calm..cnfidnt and in control..gth

http://www.esri.ie/__uuid/9495a3d4-7e97-4588-a1d3-c091fa1e7838/NPRS2012.pdf
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 Author| Post time 2-1-2014 03:28 AM | Show all posts
tinker_bell posted on 2-1-2014 03:22 AM
GentleBirth is a complete childbirth preparation programme that teaches easy self hypnosis techniq ...



Ini yg i tak brp faham td. I thought hypnobirthing, amani birth sub div di bawah gentle birth. Bila i google it seems like gentle birth pun salah satu method bersalin.
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 Author| Post time 2-1-2014 03:30 AM | Show all posts

Mohon doc @mimigorjes bg pencerahan gentle birth Last edited by juliez on 2-1-2014 03:31 AM

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Post time 2-1-2014 03:31 AM | Show all posts
agnesia posted on 2-1-2014 03:10 AM
dgn ilmu yg sgt cetek ni aku ada persoalan..
HARUS belajr ilmu hitam tuk lindungi keluarga???
seri ...

uoll..pengasas gentlebirth dgn hypnobirth ni dua2 kaki hypnosis uoll..dorang ni certified hypnotherapist..dorang siap kenakn hypnosis kt patient dorang..sbb tu dia guna cd waktu beranak..cd tu mcm ada hypnosis power kata mereka..dekat website ummah kokesen dorang claim tu lah tujuan birth cd tu..untuk hypnosis waktu beranak..kalau umah christian kokesen yg alim percaya hypnosis ni berdosa..sbb ajaran setan beribu tahun..science pon kata hypnosis ni pseudoscience jah..so uoll tak ptt heran la knp dorang ni sesat2 semua..pakai tudung..ckp psal agama kt fb tak habis2..tp tunjuk pepet kt blog smpai nmpk bulu2..sorang lgik yg ni pulak..bak kata ummah christian kokesen dorang ni dah kena sihir uoll..
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Post time 2-1-2014 03:34 AM | Show all posts
juliez posted on 2-1-2014 03:28 AM
Ini yg i tak brp faham td. I thought hypnobirthing, amani birth sub div di bawah gentle birth. ...

ye lah..gentle birth method bersalin dr ireland..yg hypnobirth pengasas dia dr us..dorang belajar through programme tu lah..programme dia lain2..so kalau beranak ikut cara gentle birth ikut yg dia ajar dlm programme tu lah..sama ada self study atau attend kelas2..amani ioll google jap..ioll pon boleh dpt phd in google uoll..
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Post time 2-1-2014 03:35 AM | Show all posts
Emm...share pengalaman UC @ kelas Amani anda ker? Jika ya, knp tiada hak halang? Jika ya, Pom pom girl cengkerang...kelas amani anda anjurkan, jemputan tentu anda yg jemput (takkan diorg buat serang hendap, hijack kelas anda). Pengasas amani kata UC x diajar dlm amani. So how kelas anda ada sharing session on UC? Atau anda yg anjurkan sharing session tersebut? Tolong jelaskan, sbb pd saya, jelas anda sokong n galakkan UC sbb jika kelas anda ada sharing session, kelas itu tanggungjwb anda.

Suami sy n sy pergi intro amani (half day). Lps hbs kelas, mmg dia anggap itu kelas UC bukan kelas gentle birthing. Sbb ada SHARING SESSION UC. Dan salah seorg speaker amani mmg buat UC. Ada couples dtg mmg nak buat UC Last edited by adranatasya on 2-1-2014 03:42 AM

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Post time 2-1-2014 03:36 AM | Show all posts
weh korang nape aku rasa minah doula doli ni banyak terpengaruh ngan unsur hindu/buddha.. tak nampak pelik ke?? bila baca blig dia aisyy.. tapi wa tak jumpa lak pic dia bersalin tu yang konon nampak segala benda toott
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 Author| Post time 2-1-2014 03:40 AM | Show all posts
tinker_bell posted on 2-1-2014 03:34 AM
ye lah..gentle birth method bersalin dr ireland..yg hypnobirth pengasas dia dr us..dorang belajar  ...



Amani birth prinsip dia lebih kurang hypnobirth & gentle birth la.. Cuma bezanya lebih islamic tak guna hypnosis
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Post time 2-1-2014 03:45 AM | Show all posts
tomatome posted on 2-1-2014 03:36 AM
weh korang nape aku rasa minah doula doli ni banyak terpengaruh ngan unsur hindu/buddha.. tak nampak ...

dah delete uoll..tp weoll sempat tengok..
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Post time 2-1-2014 03:49 AM | Show all posts
tinker_bell posted on 2-1-2014 03:45 AM
dah delete uoll..tp weoll sempat tengok..

ala ruginya beb.. pesal lak dia delete tau lak malu.. so any update kes ni cik bell?? wa tumpang baca je nak komen lebih2 x brp arif.. tapi zaman la ni ramai tul rasa diri bijak sangat sampai leh sesat
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tomatome posted on 2-1-2014 03:36 AM
weh korang nape aku rasa minah doula doli ni banyak terpengaruh ngan unsur hindu/buddha.. tak nampak ...



Go to 1st thread (link ada dkt 1st post). Cari post by kassim matalon, dia ada tempek screenshot
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Post time 2-1-2014 03:52 AM | Show all posts
Sungguh amazed dgn reply ibu ni lps pom pom girl yatt "nasihat" mengenai ddc. Google yer. Nyawa anak tu, tp x per dr pom pom girl n doc google ada. Face palm

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 Author| Post time 2-1-2014 03:56 AM | Show all posts
adranatasya posted on 2-1-2014 03:52 AM
Sungguh amazed dgn reply ibu ni lps pom pom girl yatt "nasihat" mengenai ddc. Google yer. Nyawa anak ...



Copy laste sekali apa yg doula yatt advise
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Post time 2-1-2014 03:59 AM | Show all posts
juliez posted on 2-1-2014 03:56 AM
Copy laste sekali apa yg doula yatt advise

Advised dr doc pom pom girl yatt. Google yer

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 Author| Post time 2-1-2014 07:17 AM | Show all posts

@tinker_bell @mimigorjes

Is this the correct term?

Natural childbirth is a philosophy of childbirth that is based on the belief that women who are adequately prepared are innately able to give birth without routine medical interventions. Natural childbirth arose in opposition to the techno-medical model of childbirth that has recently gained popularity in industrialized societies, and is a childbirth philosophy that attempts to minimize medical intervention, particularly the use of anesthetic medications and surgical interventions such as episiotomies, forceps and ventouse deliveries and caesarean sections.

A woman's definition of 'natural' may range from no intervention at all to birth which includes any intervention deemed appropriate. The application of this philosophy may occur during a physician or midwife attended hospital birth, a midwife attended homebirth, or an unassisted birth.The term "natural childbirth" was coined by obstetrician Grantly Dick-Read upon publication of his book Natural Childbirth in the 1930s, which was followed by the 1942 Childbirth Without Fear - See more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_childbirth


And bawah natural birth ni baru la ada those method (the gentle birthing, amani birth, hypnobirthing)
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Post time 2-1-2014 07:24 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
tomatome posted on 2-1-2014 03:36 AM
weh korang nape aku rasa minah doula doli ni banyak terpengaruh ngan unsur hindu/buddha.. tak nampak ...

Check umah lame si kassim sempat "menyelamatkannya"
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