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Kepercayaan Reincarnation (2pics)

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Post time 3-3-2014 08:06 AM | Show all posts
stania83 posted on 3-3-2014 12:19 AM
what if reincarnation can be scientifically explained? rasanya ada kajian yg dna manusia ade yg terb ...

Bukan DNA shj tetapi juga kepintaran "manusia" dulu kala dibawa turun secara genetik - spt keupayaan menbuat api, lembing, anak panah, kepakaran menburu serta perubataan dan lain2 lagi. Semuanya diwariskan dari satu salasilah manusia (spt Homo Eretus, Cro Magnon dan Homo Sapiens) ke salasilah yg seterusnya.

Akan tetapi Christians dan Muslims tak akan terima walaupun kamu menberikan bukti apa pun. Ini kerana ianya bertentangan dgn kepercayaan mereka bahawa mereka boleh lari dari dosa dan tanggungjawab mereka di dunia ini dan duduk goyang kaki dgn 72 pelacur di sebuah rumah pelacuran yg mereka gelarkan Syurga.







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Post time 3-3-2014 09:26 AM | Show all posts
Sephiroth posted on 3-3-2014 08:06 AM
Bukan DNA shj tetapi juga kepintaran "manusia" dulu kala dibawa turun secara genetik - spt keupaya ...
Sephiroth
Akan tetapi Christians dan Muslims tak akan terima walaupun kamu menberikan bukti apa pun.
Anda salah.

Manakah buktinya?


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Post time 4-3-2014 11:47 AM | Show all posts
mashimaru83 posted on 3-3-2014 09:26 AM
Anda salah.

Manakah buktinya?

dia selalu salah hahahahahahahhaha

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Post time 4-3-2014 01:44 PM | Show all posts
Statement aku adalah utk Stania83, BUKAN Sialmaru83 ataupun Pelacurkabaret. Terima Kasih.
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Post time 4-3-2014 02:14 PM | Show all posts
Sephiroth posted on 4-3-2014 01:44 PM
Statement aku adalah utk Stania83, BUKAN Sialmaru83 ataupun Pelacurkabaret. Terima Kasih.

yup saya pelacur kabaret international....ada rumah besor, kereta 3 biji... cincin  berlian berjuta ...kalah rosmah... bra saya US$5000 ...apa kau ada....pariah yg tahu bising aja...hahahah


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Post time 5-3-2014 09:30 AM | Show all posts
pompankabaret posted on 4-3-2014 02:14 PM
yup saya pelacur kabaret international....ada rumah besor, kereta 3 biji... cincin  berlian berjut ...

Rumah besar, kereta 3 biji, cincin berlian dan lain-lain. Semua ini tak berguna kalau akhlak kamu tak ubah spt sampah di atas muka bumi ini, wahai pelacur.
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Post time 5-3-2014 10:08 AM | Show all posts
Sephiroth posted on 5-3-2014 09:30 AM
Rumah besar, kereta 3 biji, cincin berlian dan lain-lain. Semua ini tak berguna kalau akhlak kamu  ...

aku peduli apa ...janji duit masuk ari2...bagi aku...harta  dan wang ringgit penting...yg lain2 saya tak ambil tahu... aku tak peduli pasal dosa , haram ..pahala...malah aku tak sembayang pun...janji aku hidup selesa...dan layan jantan2  yg ingin menikmati tubuh ku yg seksi  ...

banyak jantan...banyak duit ....
yg kau bising macam anjing pariah...apa ada? kalau kau ada anak dara , jual dekat saya ....aku akan buat  dia kaya raya nanti, pelacur atasan international ..


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Post time 5-3-2014 11:48 AM | Show all posts
pompankabaret posted on 5-3-2014 10:08 AM
aku peduli apa ...janji duit masuk ari2...bagi aku...harta  dan wang ringgit penting...yg lain2 sa ...

Maaf, aku hanya berurusan dgn manusia, bukan haiwan yg hidup berlagak spt manusia. Tawaran dari pelacur spt kau, aku tidak minat. Terima kasih je lah.
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Post time 21-3-2014 03:21 PM | Show all posts
HannahMontana posted on 31-1-2014 08:59 PM
Ini bukan Islam.

Jgnlah nak provoke pelik2 bab agama org lain

salam,

dah bertahun tahun tak masuk. buddhism tak sebut reincarnation tapi rebirth.

beza apa? dalam buddhism, tak ada pun roh abadi seperti islam/christian yang hidup. yg ada adalah minda(consciouness) , so yang rebirth adalah minda.

dan dalam buddhism ada tiga realms.
realm adalah nama generik yang anda boleh anggap sebagai galaxy/dimension/world etc

1) sensual(dimana makluk yang asyik dengan sensual pleasure duniawi) seperti manusia sentiasa nak siok dengan duit, hiburan dll- dunia lebih rendah daripada manusia (neraka) juga dalam golongan ini

2) rupa(ni perkataan sanskrit, bkn melayu) atau form- ni adalah realm dimana celestian being(malaikat/deva/jin dll) menatap.

3) arupa(formless) dimana kehidupan dgn consciousness sahaja wujud tanpa badan daging

so, balik kepada salah satu forumer kata, jita tiada rebirth, maka kemanakah muslim? ke syurga? jadi syurga itulah realm rupa atau arupa dan mana satu adalah bergantung kepada karma(atau apa yang muslim/christian panggil perbuatan baik/jahat) . jika anda akan ke syurga atau neraka, bukankah ini rebirth? dimana anda ke dunia lain? jika tiada pun, makan anda tendu tak akan ke tempat lain pun, tetap di dunia shj. tapi conservation of energy menyatakan tiada ada satu tenaga boleh lesap shj, ianya bertukar bentuk.  

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Post time 21-3-2014 03:22 PM | Show all posts
Sephiroth posted on 5-3-2014 09:30 AM
Rumah besar, kereta 3 biji, cincin berlian dan lain-lain. Semua ini tak berguna kalau akhlak kamu  ...



maaf sephiroh, macamlah mulut you tu wangi

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Post time 21-3-2014 04:16 PM | Show all posts
by wei_loon5063

buddhism tak sebut reincarnation tapi rebirth.

beza apa? dalam buddhism, tak ada pun roh abadi seperti islam/christian yang hidup. yg ada adalah minda(consciouness) , so yang rebirth adalah minda.


Aku ingat lagi beberapa tahun lalu di mana kamu mengatakan benda yg sama di Column Buddhism. Tak tahulah kau ingat ke tak persoalan aku masa itu. Aku akan mengulanginya :-

IF nothing survives death, then why do you (Buddhists) need to find enlightnment?

Minda itu hanyalah software yg direkacipta oleh badan manusia semasa ianya berinteraksi dgn alam semulajadi. Spt software dlm komputer, hanya bezanya adalah, software ini akan update dan mengubahsuai diri sendiri dan influence physical body utk melakukan sesuatu.

Jadi walaupun Mind ada pengaruh terhadap perbuatan dan tingkahlaku seseorang, apakah seseorang Buddhist mendapat dgn mencapai Moksha kalau ianya semata2 utk "menbebaskan" minda anda? Saya rasa baik bunuh diri je - cara yg lebih cepat dari buat meditasi utk bertahun2 lamanya.

Bottomline - kalau manusia tak ada roh (sesuatu yg tidak dipengaruhi oleh hidup dan mati), maka tak perlulah seseorang utk melakukan kerja2 Spiritualism spt Buddhism monk.
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Post time 23-3-2014 11:22 AM | Show all posts
And the so-called Buddhist (wei_loon5063) crawls back to the hole he came out from.
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Post time 13-6-2014 01:27 PM | Show all posts
stania83 posted on 3-3-2014 12:19 AM
what if reincarnation can be scientifically explained? rasanya ada kajian yg dna manusia ade yg terb ...

what if reincarnation can be scientifically explained? rasanya ada kajian yg dna manusia ade yg terbentuk daripada dna manusia yg terdahulu. Maksudnya bukan 100% tapi sebahagian daripada dna org terdahulu(person X) terdapat dalam dna manusia sekarang.(person Y)

setiap saat, setiap minit, setiap detik, anda, saya dan kalian, dilahirkan, reput dan mati, dilahirkan reput dan mati.

badan anda 90% bukan milik anda, semua milik cell, bacteria dan mereka tidak perlukan anda untuk bagi arahan nak buat cam mana. setial saat, ada cell anda yg mati dan baru yang dilahirkan.

jadi, jika semua mati, apa pula saya? "saya" adalah perkataan yang anda gunakan untuk mengelar pengaliran kesedaran.

DNA anda itu dah mencatatkan sejarah alam semesta 15 billion tahun dahulu sampai hari ni.
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Post time 13-6-2014 01:28 PM | Show all posts
Sephiroth posted on 21-3-2014 04:16 PM
by wei_loon5063

http://www.dhammatalks.org/Archi ... radoxOfBecoming.pdf
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Post time 13-6-2014 01:37 PM | Show all posts
anwarnuwa posted on 5-2-2014 06:03 PM
kelahiran semula suatu x logik...


kamu yang semalam dengan yang hari ni adakah orang yg sama? jika kau tengok detail, semalam yg kau dah mati, untuk melahirkan anda yg hari ini.

[size=14.399999618530273px]The doctrine of dependent origination shows that the sentient being is nothing but a flow of mental and physical phenomena which arises and continues in dependence on conditions. The layout of these conditions brings to light the cause of suffering and shows how suffering can be ended.
[size=14.399999618530273px]The doctrine is based on the following principle:
[size=14.399999618530273px]When THIS is present, there is THAT,
With the arising of THIS, THAT arises.
[size=14.399999618530273px]When THIS is not present, there isn't THAT,
With the cessation of THIS, THAT ceases.
[size=14.399999618530273px]Dependent origination is set forth in a series of relations:
  • Dependent on ignorance there are activities (avijjaapaccayaa sa"mkhaaraa);
  • Dependent on activities there is consciousness (sa"mkhaarapaccayaa viññaa.na"m);
  • Dependent on consciousness there is mentality-materiality (viññaa.napaccayaa naama-ruupa"m);
  • Dependent on mentality-materiality there are the six bases (naamaruupapaccayaa sa.laayatana"m);
  • Dependent on the six bases there is contact (sa.laayatanapaccayaa phasso);
  • Dependent on contact there is feeling (phassapaccayaa vedanaa);
  • Dependent on feeling there is craving (vedanaapaccayaa ta.nhaa);
  • Dependent on craving there is clinging (ta.nhaapaccayaa upaadaana"m);
  • Dependent on clinging there is becoming (upaadaanapaccayaa bhavo);
  • Dependent on becoming there is birth (bhavapaccayaa jaati);
  • Dependent on birth there is old age and death (jaatipaccayaa jaraa mara.na"m).
[size=14.399999618530273px]The sequence of events covered by the doctrine falls into three existences — the immediately past, the present, and the future one. The first two factors in the sequence refer to the past life, the last two to the future life, and the rest to this present existence. However, these events intersect, so the factors assigned to the past and future existences also can be found in the present. The doctrine indicates how and why we came into this present existence and where we came from, confuting two erroneous interpretations of our nature and destiny:
  • that there is a soul, either uncreated or of divine origin, lasting eternally into the future; and
  • that we came into existence from nowhere and face nothing but annihilation at death.
[size=14.399999618530273px]Dependent on ignorance there are activities. From an inconceivable beginning we have performed activities of body, speech, and mind dominated by ignorance. Ignorance is lack of insight into the Four Noble Truths. Any volitional action performed through ignorance becomes kamma with a potential to react, to bring about rebirth, and other consequences in accordance with the kammic law. Only the arahant, who has ended ignorance, can perform volitional acts without forming kamma.
[size=14.399999618530273px]Dependent on activities there is consciousness. After death the five aggregates disintegrate but kamma remains with its potential intact. This residual kamma helps form the embryo in the new existence. It is responsible for the rebirth consciousness, the first citta of the new life. The ovum and the sperm constitute the body of the embryo, kamma contributes the mind and mental functions. A kamma formation of the previous existence manifests itself as the passive consciousness which, from the very first moment of conception, receives all the potentialities resulting from past volitional actions. No consciousness passes over from one existence to the next but the stream of consciousness goes on, a flux, constantly becoming.
[size=14.399999618530273px]Dependent on consciousness there is mentality-materiality. The union of the ovum, sperm and rebirth consciousness brings the mental-material compound into being. Mentality (naama) signifies the mental factors conascent with passive consciousness — feeling (vedanaa), perception (saññaa), volition (cetanaa), contact (phassa), and attention (manasikaara). Materiality (ruupa) comprises the four primary elements of matter and their derivatives, described earlier. It must be noted that kamma plays a role in the arising of materiality too. At the moment of conception kamma generates three units of matter: the decads of sex, body, and the mind basis. In the course of life kamma causes and sustains the functioning of the senses and vitality. Rebirth consciousness is a conascent condition for the arising of materiality. Thereafter, consciousness conditions materiality via a number of relationships, to be given in the section on conditioning relationships below. Thus mentality and materiality are mutually dependent.
[size=14.399999618530273px]Dependent on mentality-materiality there are the six bases. Once generated and nourished by the mother, the embryo starts to grow. As it grows it acquires four other physical sense bases — the eye, ear, nose, and tongue. The body base appeared at conception as did the sixth sense organ, the mind-base (a collective term for all forms of consciousness).
[size=14.399999618530273px]Dependent on the six sense bases there is contact. Each physical sense base can be stimulated only by its appropriate sense object, i.e., eye-base by forms, ear-base by sounds, nose-base by smells, tongue base by tastes, and the tactile-base by touch. The mind-base can be stimulated by any thought or idea whether past, present, future, or timeless, whether real or imaginary, sensuous or abstract. When the sense base is stimulated, conditions are present for the appropriate consciousness to arise. The combination of the three — base, object, and consciousness — is called "contact."
[size=14.399999618530273px]Dependent on contact there is feeling. When contact is made with an object through the senses, feeling must also arise. Contact is a conascent condition feeling. The feeling may be agreeable, disagreeable, or neither. It is through feeling that we reap the results of previous kamma. Since kamma resultants differ from one person to another we each experience different feelings.
[size=14.399999618530273px]Dependent on feeling there is craving. Craving is of three kinds — craving for sense pleasures (kaamata.nhaa), craving for existence (bhavata.nhaa), and craving for non-existence (vibhavata.nhaa). We crave pleasant sensations experienced through the senses. When one pleasant object passes, as it must, we seek another, thirsting for a new pleasant sensation to replace the old. So the search goes on as craving knows no satiation. Besides pleasures, we also crave existence. In our ignorance we believe there is an abiding self within. Thence we strive and struggle to preserve this self and to provide it with the best conditions. But, at times, we also crave non-existence, as when in a mood of dejection we wish for annihilation, thinking death to be the end. Even if this craving does not become so drastic, it still springs up as the desire to destroy the causes of our distress.
[size=14.399999618530273px]Dependent on craving there is clinging. Clinging is an intensified form of craving. It has the nature of grasping and takes on four forms:
  • clinging to sense pleasures (kaam'uaadaana);
  • clinging to wrong views, principally eternalism and nihilism (di.t.th'uaadaana);
  • clinging to rites and rituals (siilabbat'upaadaana); and
  • clinging to a doctrine of self (attavaad'upaadaana). This is the most tenacious form of clinging, abandoned only when the stage of stream-entry is attained.
[size=14.399999618530273px]Dependent on clinging there is becoming. Clinging conditions volitional activities, unwholesome and wholesome, which set the stage for a new existence where they can ripen.
[size=14.399999618530273px]Dependent on becoming there is birth. The unexhausted kammic activities of this life bring about birth into a new existence, finding appropriate conditions to manifest themselves.
[size=14.399999618530273px]Dependent on birth there is old age and death. Once a person is born, decay and death inevitably follow, bringing in their trail sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief, and despair.
[size=14.399999618530273px]In order to cure any disease its cause must be known and removed. All other treatments are symptomatic. The Buddha taught dependent origination to point out the cause of suffering and to show how it can be uprooted.
[size=14.399999618530273px]To end suffering the cycle of causal origination must be broken at the right link. We cannot end suffering by destroying the psycho-physical organism we inherited as a result of past kamma; this is not the answer to the problem. We cannot prevent the contact of the senses with their objects, nor the arising of feeling from contact. But our reactions to the feelings we experience, that is different, that is something we can control. We can control them through wisdom. If we understand the feelings that arise to be momentary and without a self, we will not react to them with craving. Thus the right link in the sequence that can be broken is the link between feeling and craving. Suffering ends with the destruction of craving.
[size=14.399999618530273px]The complete destruction of craving is a formidable task. But, though difficult, it can be approached by degrees. Craving can be gradually weakened and this will start us on the path towards the ideal. The less we crave, the fewer the disappointments; the less the suffering, the greater the peace. In the Four Noble Truths the Buddha teaches us all we need to know: the cause of suffering is craving; the way to achieve this is to follow the Noble Eightfold Path.
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Post time 13-6-2014 01:39 PM | Show all posts
wei_loon5063 posted on 13-6-2014 01:28 PM
http://www.dhammatalks.org/Archive/Writings/TheParadoxOfBecoming.pdf

There is no meaning of life inside a book. The meaning is in your Mind and Soul. If you merely follow (confusing) words without knowing its meaning by heart, how sure are you that the words will lead you anywhere?

Do not take cover behind books and words.
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Post time 13-6-2014 01:40 PM | Show all posts
kamu sekalian yg percaya bahawa manusia dilahirkan dan untuk dilahirkan sebagai bayi, anda mesti dilahirkan sebagai roh baru masuk ke badan bayi. lepas mati, dari jasad ke syurga.

ni pun rebirth....

dari tuhan cipta roh ke bayi, bayi,kanak kanak, remaja, dewasa, tua, mati - lepas tu syurga.

bukan kah ni cycle of rebirth
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Post time 13-6-2014 01:42 PM | Show all posts
Sephiroth posted on 13-6-2014 01:39 PM
There is no meaning of life inside a book. The meaning is in your Mind and Soul. If you merely fol ...


then how sure are you either?



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Post time 13-6-2014 02:00 PM | Show all posts
wei_loon5063 posted on 13-6-2014 01:42 PM
then how sure are you either?

My faith is determined by my own actions, thoughts and ideals. NO ONE ELSE. I care not for books or sutras.

If that means I'm quite sure of myself, then I'm quite sure.
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Post time 13-6-2014 02:06 PM | Show all posts
Sephiroth posted on 13-6-2014 02:00 PM
My faith is determined by my own actions, thoughts and ideals. NO ONE ELSE. I care not for books o ...


without book, where do your knowledge come from? you know all the mathematic equation, alphabet, biology upon birth from your mothers womb?

without sutra etc, where do your spiritual knowledge arose?
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