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Aku nak tanya pada muslim..

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Post time 21-4-2014 02:02 PM | Show all posts
Truth.8 posted on 21-4-2014 12:38 PM
hahahha now you cannot even debate or i could says u fail, now asking about Jesus is God issue...it has been rebuke by me long time ago....
you got problem real problem because most muslims view that covering of head is not part Quran as it stated covering the chest...

what can i says....
memakai tudung tidak perlu tapi aurat itu penting....aurat ? pakaian tidak ketat ....ketat hingga nampak bahagian2 sulit perempuan atau lelaki  mahupun  dada wanita (chest) ....jadi kain kena lah longgar2 ....rambut? adakah rambut itu aurat??

lu pikir lah sendiri

here is another one:

Really?  Where in the quran does it say to cover your head, the verses mentioned don't have the word hair (Shahr in arabic) or head (ra'as in arabic), yes I speak arabic fluently, there is NOTHING in the quran about covering your head or hair.


And what and what?                                                

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/relig ... yptian-scholar.html

Ha ha , you rebuked and refuted about biblical Jesus being God? With the lame excuse that he was born without sexual intercourse? I thought I stated that with that logic , Adam is a bigger God , no father no mother. You did not respond. In short , you then ran away.

Why are you still arguing that 'rambut' is not aurat? The simple question that you have continuously ran away from. How do you cover the head without covering the hair as headcovering is mentioned ('khimar') in Quran24:31? You have no answers but going in circles chasing your own backside.

Post#20 in your link answers the claim of the person who supposed speak fluent arabic :
lol speaking arabic and understanding quranic arabic are 2 different things. surely you are no scholar (as most credible scholars will tell u headcovering IS mentioned in Quran) so plz dont start giving me your interpretation of what the quran is saying or not saying.

and what and what?

Again , your reference is arguing from his own unlearned interpretation.

Gamal El Banna a scholar? Since when did he became a scholar?

He was an author plus being a liberal and secular activist. That is why he did not have any problems with the Egyptian regime of then Anwar Sadat and Hosni Mubarak. Different from his brother Hassan who established Ikhwan. Gamal is highly opinionated but to his own beliefs and interpretation. Therefore wht he argues is from his opinion without any authoritative reference.

Even the western journalist agree to the fact that Gamal is not a scholar (Arab West Report).
These experiences with al-Banna were characteristic of his individualism. He was an original thinker, not afraid to be divert from mainstream beliefs, such as a controversial claim a few years ago stating that it was permitted to smoke during Ramadan. He was not willing to compromise on what he believed to be true himself. Jamāl al-Bannā has often been presented as a scholar and an
academic, but he was not and never claimed to be. The work that I was able to see was often not well researched. He was well-read, but lacked the scrutiny of an academic.

Again you refer to a person who provides his own unlearned opinion. Why do you keep on doing this? The answer is because you do not have any authoritative source(s) and you are not a careful person when it comes to critical understanding.

Per your post #112
(1) How do you come to the understanding that us muslims understand hijab = head cover? Nobody stated so
(2) Look at your post #101 , is there a bracket between the word 'head cover'? Yes or no?
(3) Where is the reference of the article that confirm 'khimar' is not head cover? There is no authoritative reference

Can you provide the authoritative source(s) that the word 'khimar' in Quran24:31


does not mean headcover?

Why so scared to answer?
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sam1528 posted on 21-4-2014 02:02 PM
Ha ha , you rebuked and refuted about biblical Jesus being God? With the lame excuse that he was b ...
Gamal El Banna a scholar? Since when did he became a scholar?

He was an author plus being a liberal and secular activist. That is why he did not have any problems with the Egyptian regime of then Anwar Sadat and Hosni Mubarak. Different from his brother Hassan who established Ikhwan. Gamal is highly opinionated but to his own beliefs and interpretation. Therefore wht he argues is from his opinion without any authoritative reference.

are you saying muslims has so many sects do not agreed each other? how sure that u are wrong and his is right?

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Post time 21-4-2014 05:41 PM | Show all posts
Truth.8 posted on 21-4-2014 02:32 PM
are you saying muslims has so many sects do not agreed each other? how sure that u are wrong and his is right?

When did I say that muslims have many sects and all not agreeable with one another? You are just arguing from your own 'syok sendiri' imagination. Farting thru your mouth or what?

My argument of head covering in Quran24:31 has the references of arabic dictionaries and the opinions of scholars. However your argument is just based on the unlearned opinions of polemicists and / or Quranists. This is very poor of you. If these people tell you to eat shit , are you going to eat shit and then claim it taste good?

Per your post #112
(1) How do you come to the understanding that us muslims understand hijab = head cover? Nobody stated so
(2) Look at your post #101 , is there a bracket between the word 'head cover'? Yes or no?
(3) Where is the reference of the article that confirm 'khimar' is not head cover? There is no authoritative reference

Can you provide the authoritative source(s) that the word 'khimar' in Quran24:31


does not mean headcover?

Why so scared to answer?

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sam1528 posted on 21-4-2014 05:41 PM
When did I say that muslims have many sects and all not agreeable with one another? You are just a ...

than how you expalin most of this nmuslims include the scholar says wearing head covering is not in quran?? u must remember this peoples are arab and their  mother language is arab...u are not...so dont act smart that you know the quran well...

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Post time 21-4-2014 11:57 PM | Show all posts
Truth.8 posted on 21-4-2014 10:23 PM
than how you expalin most of this nmuslims include the scholar says wearing head covering is not in quran?? u must remember this peoples are arab and their  mother language is arab...u are not...so dont act smart that you know the quran well...

Most of muslims and a scholar? Quranites are just insignificant minority and who is this so called scholar?

Why are you going around in circles chasing your own backside? You have yet to provide your evidence. Unless you are 'syok sendiri' type of person or you are mentally challenged you need to start providing evidence of your argument.

Who are these people , the so called know their mother tongue? You have nothing. Even simple questions you are so scared to answer because you don't have an answer.

The fact is that I know more than you.

Per your post #112
(1) How do you come to the understanding that us muslims understand hijab = head cover? Nobody stated so
(2) Look at your post #101 , is there a bracket between the word 'head cover'? Yes or no?
(3) Where is the reference of the article that confirm 'khimar' is not head cover? There is no authoritative reference

Can you provide the authoritative source(s) that the word 'khimar' in Quran24:31


does not mean headcover?

Why so scared to answer?
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sam1528 posted on 21-4-2014 11:57 PM
Most of muslims and a scholar? Quranites are just insignificant minority and who is this so called ...

are u saying those arabs   who spoke and write which is their mother language is better than u? u not arab...
so, the arabs  who is muslim says covering head is not according to quran..

why you in denial??

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Post time 22-4-2014 12:50 PM | Show all posts
Truth.8 posted on 22-4-2014 10:55 AM
are u saying those arabs   who spoke and write which is their mother language is better than u? u not arab...
so, the arabs  who is muslim says covering head is not according to quran..

why you in denial??

Ha ha , 'truth.8' asking questions that have been answered. You might as well call yourself 'retard.8' looking at the way you are arguing and asking questions that have been answered. Go back and read my posts #137 and #139.

Somehow or rather you are so scared answering questions. Wonder why?

Per your post #112
(1) How do you come to the understanding that us muslims understand hijab = head cover? Nobody stated so
(2) Look at your post #101 , is there a bracket between the word 'head cover'? Yes or no?
(3) Where is the reference of the article that confirm 'khimar' is not head cover? There is no authoritative reference

Can you provide the authoritative source(s) that the word 'khimar' in Quran24:31


does not mean headcover?

Why so scared to answer?
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sam1528 posted on 22-4-2014 12:50 PM
Ha ha , 'truth.8' asking questions that have been answered. You might as well call yourself 'retar ...

you still in denial:
are u saying those arabs   who spoke and write which is their mother language is better than u? u not arab...
so, the arabs  who is muslim says covering head is not according to quran..

meaning u are fraud and liar

Here I post another  PhD who is arab ...do not agreed on hijab or the head covering....u not a  phd and  arab decendant ....so the issue on hijab and head covering is not God commandement..here is the link:

Morocco World News
Casablanca, June 24, 2012
Last month at Al Azhar University, Sheikh Mustapha Mohamed Rashed defended a thesis that sparked a heated debate among religious scholars. The candidate concluded that Hijab, or the veil, is not an Islamic duty.
The claim is not the first of its kind, but the mere fact that it is adopted in Al Azhar University – the Sunni Islam’s foremost seat of learning –makes it controversial.
Sheikh Mustapha Mohamed Rashed argued that Hijab is not an Islamic duty. He stated that Hijab refers to the cover of the head, which is not mentioned in the Holy Quran at all. “Nonetheless, a bunch of scholars insisted vehemently that the veil is both an Islamic duty and one of the most important pillars of Islam,” he added.
In doing so, the PhD candidate points out, “they deviated from the purposes of the Islamic law and “Sahih Atafsir” or the true interpretation. They rejected reasoning and relied only on literal text.”
According to Mohamed Rashed, these scholars de-contextualized the verses of the Quran and interpreted them in their very own liking, following some ancient scholars, as if what they said is sacred and is no subject to Ijtihad.
Ijtihad is a technical term, which literally means “exertion” in a jurisprudential sense; it is the exertion of mental energy by a Muslim jurist to deduce legal rulings from Islam’s sacred texts.1
The researcher continued that the scholars, who claim that Hijab is an important pillar of Islam, departed from “Al Minhaj Assahih,” or the true path, of interpretation and reasoning, which interprets the verses according to their historical context and the causes of revelation. These scholars  “interpreted the verses in their general sense, overlooking the causes of their revelation, intentionally or due to their limited intellectual capacity resulted in psychological scourge.” Worse yet, they approached hundreds of important issues in the same way.”
“The supporters of Hijab as an Islamic duty base their arguments on inconsistent and wrong evidence. They would ascribe various meanings to the veil, from Hijab to Khimar to Jalabib, a fact which shows that they digressed from the true meaning they intended to address, the cover of the head,” he added. The researcher attempted to deconstruct the three claims that are derived from interpretations of the sacred texts.
Literally, Hijab means “a veil,” “curtain,” “partition” or “separation.” 2 The verse in which it is mentioned is specifically addressed to the wives of the prophet; there is no dispute among scholars about that at all. The verse states as follow,
And when you ask [his wives] for something, ask them from behind a partition ( hijab). That is purer for your hearts and their hearts. And it is not [conceivable or lawful] for you to harm the Messenger of Allah or to marry his wives after him, ever. Indeed, that would be in the sight of Allah an enormity. ( Quran 33: 53)
The term hijab then is meant to have a partition between the wives of the prophet and his companions. It is not addressed to the Muslim women, otherwise it would have been stated, says Mohamed Rashed.
Bouthaina Shaaban seems to have held the same belief.3She said that those who imitate the wives of the prophet and wear the Hijab are disobeying God’s will, for He said,
O wives of the Prophet, you are not like anyone among women. (Quran 33: 32)
As for the term Khimar, it is found in a verse of the Quran stating,
And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests. (Quran 24: 31)
The researcher pointed out that the evidence is invalid. The intent of the text is to refer to the cover of the breast whose exposure is un-Islamic, but not to what is perceived nowadays as Hijab for the head.
In this regard, it is believed that when the pre-Islamic Arabs went to battle, Arab women seeing the men off to war would bare their breasts to encourage them to fight; or they would do so at the battle itself, as in the case of the Meccan women led by Hind at the Battle of Uhud.2
Nikkie Keddie, a prominent historian and an expert on women’s issues in Islam, said that this verse does not refer to covering the hair. It was only “later interpreted as meaning covering the whole body, including the hair, and most of the face.” She continued that; “This interpretation is illogical. If the whole body and face were meant, there would be no reason to tell women to veil their bosoms specifically, while the later interpretation of ‘adornment’ to mean everything but the hands, feet, and (possibly) the face is a forced one.4
However, Al Qaradawi, a famous Egyptian scholar, quoted the same verse to conclude that the Hijab is  compulsory and is an injunction  based on a literal reading of the Koran. He asserted that the Hijab is, “not the result of an opinion by jurists or even by Muslims; it is a Koranic order.”5
As regards the verse in which Jalabib is mentioned, the researcher considered it to be misplaced evidence.
O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. (Quran 33:59)
The supporters of Hijab as an Islamic duty overlooked the historical background and the cause of revelation, for the verse was meant to distinguish between the pure and promiscuous women and slaves. At that time, all women tended not to cover their faces. Hence, the verse was revealed so as to protect the pure from some men, who would gaze at them while they were excreting or urinating.
Mustapha Mohamed Rashed rejected the Hadith, reported by Abu Dawud, in which Asma, daughter of Abu Bakr, was ordered by the prophet to expose only her face and palms. He says it should not be taken into any sort of consideration because it is “Ahaad” or its narration does not fulfill one of the most important required conditions, connectivity.
It is not clear whether the dissertation was preserved on the shelves of Al Azhar University and could not be discussed. This possibility made the Moroccan newspaper, Almassaa, wonder if the Arab Spring was conducive in bringing this issue to the surface.

link  :http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/ ... lamic-duty-scholar/


here i leave a youtube . it mentioned many things is  not in Quran







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Post time 22-4-2014 05:22 PM | Show all posts
Truth.8 posted on 22-4-2014 01:49 PM
you still in denial:
are u saying those arabs   who spoke and write which is their mother language is better than u? u not arab...
so, the arabs  who is muslim says covering head is not according to quran..

meaning u are fraud and liar

Here I post another  PhD who is arab ...do not agreed on hijab or the head covering....u not a  phd and  arab decendant ....so the issue on hijab and head covering is not God commandement..here is the link:

Morocco World News
Casablanca, June 24, 2012
Last month at Al Azhar University, Sheikh Mustapha Mohamed Rashed defended a thesis that sparked a heated debate among religious scholars. The candidate concluded that Hijab, or the veil, is not an Islamic duty.
The claim is not the first of its kind, but the mere fact that it is adopted in Al Azhar University – the Sunni Islam’s foremost seat of learning –makes it controversial.
Sheikh Mustapha Mohamed Rashed argued that Hijab is not an Islamic duty. He stated that Hijab refers to the cover of the head, which is not mentioned in the Holy Quran at all. “Nonetheless, a bunch of scholars insisted vehemently that the veil is both an Islamic duty and one of the most important pillars of Islam,” he added.
In doing so, the PhD candidate points out, “they deviated from the purposes of the Islamic law and “Sahih Atafsir” or the true interpretation. They rejected reasoning and relied only on literal text.”
According to Mohamed Rashed, these scholars de-contextualized the verses of the Quran and interpreted them in their very own liking, following some ancient scholars, as if what they said is sacred and is no subject to Ijtihad.
Ijtihad is a technical term, which literally means “exertion” in a jurisprudential sense; it is the exertion of mental energy by a Muslim jurist to deduce legal rulings from Islam’s sacred texts.1
The researcher continued that the scholars, who claim that Hijab is an important pillar of Islam, departed from “Al Minhaj Assahih,” or the true path, of interpretation and reasoning, which interprets the verses according to their historical context and the causes of revelation. These scholars  “interpreted the verses in their general sense, overlooking the causes of their revelation, intentionally or due to their limited intellectual capacity resulted in psychological scourge.” Worse yet, they approached hundreds of important issues in the same way.”
“The supporters of Hijab as an Islamic duty base their arguments on inconsistent and wrong evidence. They would ascribe various meanings to the veil, from Hijab to Khimar to Jalabib, a fact which shows that they digressed from the true meaning they intended to address, the cover of the head,” he added. The researcher attempted to deconstruct the three claims that are derived from interpretations of the sacred texts.
Literally, Hijab means “a veil,” “curtain,” “partition” or “separation.” 2 The verse in which it is mentioned is specifically addressed to the wives of the prophet; there is no dispute among scholars about that at all. The verse states as follow,
And when you ask [his wives] for something, ask them from behind a partition ( hijab). That is purer for your hearts and their hearts. And it is not [conceivable or lawful] for you to harm the Messenger of Allah or to marry his wives after him, ever. Indeed, that would be in the sight of Allah an enormity. ( Quran 33: 53)
The term hijab then is meant to have a partition between the wives of the prophet and his companions. It is not addressed to the Muslim women, otherwise it would have been stated, says Mohamed Rashed.
Bouthaina Shaaban seems to have held the same belief.3She said that those who imitate the wives of the prophet and wear the Hijab are disobeying God’s will, for He said,
O wives of the Prophet, you are not like anyone among women. (Quran 33: 32)
As for the term Khimar, it is found in a verse of the Quran stating,
And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests. (Quran 24: 31)
The researcher pointed out that the evidence is invalid. The intent of the text is to refer to the cover of the breast whose exposure is un-Islamic, but not to what is perceived nowadays as Hijab for the head.
In this regard, it is believed that when the pre-Islamic Arabs went to battle, Arab women seeing the men off to war would bare their breasts to encourage them to fight; or they would do so at the battle itself, as in the case of the Meccan women led by Hind at the Battle of Uhud.2
Nikkie Keddie, a prominent historian and an expert on women’s issues in Islam, said that this verse does not refer to covering the hair. It was only “later interpreted as meaning covering the whole body, including the hair, and most of the face.” She continued that; “This interpretation is illogical. If the whole body and face were meant, there would be no reason to tell women to veil their bosoms specifically, while the later interpretation of ‘adornment’ to mean everything but the hands, feet, and (possibly) the face is a forced one.4
However, Al Qaradawi, a famous Egyptian scholar, quoted the same verse to conclude that the Hijab is  compulsory and is an injunction  based on a literal reading of the Koran. He asserted that the Hijab is, “not the result of an opinion by jurists or even by Muslims; it is a Koranic order.”5
As regards the verse in which Jalabib is mentioned, the researcher considered it to be misplaced evidence.
O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. (Quran 33:59)
The supporters of Hijab as an Islamic duty overlooked the historical background and the cause of revelation, for the verse was meant to distinguish between the pure and promiscuous women and slaves. At that time, all women tended not to cover their faces. Hence, the verse was revealed so as to protect the pure from some men, who would gaze at them while they were excreting or urinating.
Mustapha Mohamed Rashed rejected the Hadith, reported by Abu Dawud, in which Asma, daughter of Abu Bakr, was ordered by the prophet to expose only her face and palms. He says it should not be taken into any sort of consideration because it is “Ahaad” or its narration does not fulfill one of the most important required conditions, connectivity.
It is not clear whether the dissertation was preserved on the shelves of Al Azhar University and could not be discussed. This possibility made the Moroccan newspaper, Almassaa, wonder if the Arab Spring was conducive in bringing this issue to the surface.

link  :http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/ ... lamic-duty-scholar/

Do you know why I call you a retard? It is because you don't even understand what you read.

Sheikh Mustapha Mohamed Rashed was a PhD candidate defending his thesis , the so called head covering is not dutiful. He was just a Phd candidate , not a scholar yet. I have underlined and bolded the pertinant points for you. Read again and try to understand what you read. I should charge you for teaching you how to understand what you read.

In the same vein , Dr Yusuf Qardawi , a real scholar stated that the headcover in the said verse means headcovering is dutiful. In the end the thesis was shelved. Could be he failed in his Phd .... poor chap - Mustapha Mohamed Rashed , cannot call him a sheikh yet.

Don't you understand what you read? Do you think you need to brush up your english understanding before making yourself a retard? You've got really bad understanding but a very thick skin. Tak tau malu ke? Apa daaa ....

Interestingly , if you go to the link and read one of the comments (at the bottom of page) :
Sheikh Mustapha Mohamed Rashed and Al Azhar University say this story is false! Did Jamal Saidi verify this story with the Sheik or the university… or did he see some chatter on Facebook and wrote it as the truth?
It appears that this so called news is a fabrication :
It is therefore no surprise that it has now emerged that the entire report on the Al-Azhar hijab thesis was completely fabricated. According to an official statement from the University of Al-Azhar by Al-Shaikh Usama Al-Sayyid, “No one by the name of Mustapha Rashed was granted a doctorate, nor did any student submit a thesis on this subject and it is literally impossible for the University of Al-Azhar to grant a PhD for such a strange thesis that is entirely against the teachings and principles of Islam.” He also stated that the officials of the college of Shari’ah are surprised that such a report could spread so far and wide merely on the basis of a Facebook post. He also noted the timing of the report, which was released during the elections when there were ongoing debates about the implementation of Islamic law in government.
Nak mula bohong ye?

In the end , you are just a liar lah tambi. Issit just that you are desperate that you did not check out the information you have. You are looking really bad here.

Per your post #112
(1) How do you come to the understanding that us muslims understand hijab = head cover? Nobody stated so
(2) Look at your post #101 , is there a bracket between the word 'head cover'? Yes or no?
(3) Where is the reference of the article that confirm 'khimar' is not head cover? There is no authoritative reference

Can you provide the authoritative source(s) that the word 'khimar' in Quran24:31


does not mean headcover?

Why so scared to answer?
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sam1528 posted on 22-4-2014 05:22 PM
Do you know why I call you a retard? It is because you don't even understand what you read.

She ...
In the same vein , Dr Yusuf Qardawi , a real scholar stated that the headcover in the said verse means headcovering is dutiful. In the end the thesis was shelved. Could be he failed in his Phd .... poor chap - Mustapha Mohamed Rashed , cannot call him a sheikh yet.

Don't you understand what you read? Do you think you need to brush up your english understanding before making yourself a retard? You've got really bad understanding but a very thick skin. Tak tau malu ke? Apa daaa ....

the fact remain that a muslims scholar   mustapha object such head covering..now how could you make a statement he failed phd ? he might be right  in his view because he arab...u are wrong...

now u saying i cant    read....what  kind of  excuses is that? running away from my question...a total failure I guess

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Post time 22-4-2014 06:53 PM | Show all posts
Truth.8 posted on 22-4-2014 06:10 PM
the fact remain that a muslims scholar   mustapha object such head covering..now how could you make a statement he failed phd ? he might be right  in his view because he arab...u are wrong...

now u saying i cant    read....what  kind of  excuses is that? running away from my question...a total failure I guess

Gee whizz , you are a confirmed to having less than average intelligence.

Didn't you read my response #147? Do you know how to read? If you had read it
- Mustapha Mohamed Rashed was just a Phd candidate defending his thesis , he is not a scholar yet , if his thesis has been shelved it means he failed and his thesis been put to cold storage
- the news is a false news

You now fail on 2 counts
(1) You don't even know what is a Phd candidate
(2) You are spreading false news meaning you are resorting to lying

You are desperate , aren't you?

Per your post #112
(1) How do you come to the understanding that us muslims understand hijab = head cover? Nobody stated so
(2) Look at your post #101 , is there a bracket between the word 'head cover'? Yes or no?
(3) Where is the reference of the article that confirm 'khimar' is not head cover? There is no authoritative reference

Can you provide the authoritative source(s) that the word 'khimar' in Quran24:31


does not mean headcover?

Why so scared to answer?

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sam1528 posted on 22-4-2014 06:53 PM
Gee whizz , you are a confirmed to having less than average intelligence.

Didn't you read my re ...

the fact remain ...many muslims view head covering is not  as what quran...one example is sister in islam..

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Post time 22-4-2014 09:25 PM | Show all posts
Truth.8 posted on 22-4-2014 07:52 PM
the fact remain ...many muslims view head covering is not  as what quran...one example is sister in islam..

Ha ha , podah lah tambi. Now , to you 'sisters in Islam' are scholars? You are so desperate apart from have been caught trying to lie and not having the required level to understand what you read.

Anybody can speculate head covering is not in the Quran , like you but its the evidence that matters. Where is your evidence? Are you going to try to lie again by referring to Mustapha Mohamed Rashed?

Per your post #112
(1) How do you come to the understanding that us muslims understand hijab = head cover? Nobody stated so
(2) Look at your post #101 , is there a bracket between the word 'head cover'? Yes or no?
(3) Where is the reference of the article that confirm 'khimar' is not head cover? There is no authoritative reference

Can you provide the authoritative source(s) that the word 'khimar' in Quran24:31


does not mean headcover?

Why so scared to answer?

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sam1528 posted on 22-4-2014 09:25 PM
Ha ha , podah lah tambi. Now , to you 'sisters in Islam' are scholars? You are so desperate apart  ...
Ha ha , podah lah tambi. Now , to you 'sisters in Islam' are scholars? You are so desperate apart from have been caught trying to lie and not having the required level to understand what you read.

ayioo ...ini mcm pun tak jawab ka? sister islam tak pakai tudung...adakah mereka infidel?? mereka tak setuju dlm isu tudung2 sebab dlm quran tak sebut hanya chest aja...

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Post time 22-4-2014 10:56 PM | Show all posts
Truth.8 posted on 22-4-2014 10:16 PM
ayioo ...ini mcm pun tak jawab ka? sister islam tak pakai tudung...adakah mereka infidel?? mereka tak setuju dlm isu tudung2 sebab dlm quran tak sebut hanya chest aja...

After being caught trying to lie , now you are being dishonest. You are not looking good tambi.

Apa yang tak jawab? Not like you , so scared to answer questions and to provide evidence. When did 'sisters in Islam' became scholars? They disagree  it is their issue (same like you). What and where is the evidence?

Until now there is no evidence from you except
- useless articles of personal opinions from Quaranites
- a lie about an Al Azhar PhD candidate whose thesis suppopsedly about no headcovering in Quran
- copy paste of personal opinions from forums

Ha ha , Quran tak sebut? Kamu tak tau pasal kamu buta huruf Bahasa Arab. Bahasa Inggeris kamu pun dah kantoi tak usah cerita lah tentang Bahasa Arab.

Per your post #112
(1) How do you come to the understanding that us muslims understand hijab = head cover? Nobody stated so
(2) Look at your post #101 , is there a bracket between the word 'head cover'? Yes or no?
(3) Where is the reference of the article that confirm 'khimar' is not head cover? There is no authoritative reference

Can you provide the authoritative source(s) that the word 'khimar' in Quran24:31


does not mean headcover?

Why so scared to answer?
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sam1528 posted on 22-4-2014 10:56 PM
After being caught trying to lie , now you are being dishonest. You are not looking good tambi.

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you caught me? infact is you are lying...i could says maybe  70% do not agreed the hijab or   head covering.....
are they  unbelievers????

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Post time 23-4-2014 02:11 PM | Show all posts
Truth.8 posted on 23-4-2014 01:11 PM
you caught me? infact is you are lying...i could says maybe  70% do not agreed the hijab or   head covering.....
are they  unbelievers????

I say again , you are a liar and a dishonest person. Why?
(1) Your copy paste about Mustapha Mohamed Rashed has been proven false by a Non Profit Organization that analyse the creditworthy of news
(2) You simply pull figures from your ass - ha ha 70%  disagreement to hijab - did you fart this % out?

Where is your evidence? People can say anything they want. Its the evidence that matters

You don't have anything that is why you have started to lie and be dishonest.

Per your post #112
(1) How do you come to the understanding that us muslims understand hijab = head cover? Nobody stated so
(2) Look at your post #101 , is there a bracket between the word 'head cover'? Yes or no?
(3) Where is the reference of the article that confirm 'khimar' is not head cover? There is no authoritative reference

Can you provide the authoritative source(s) that the word 'khimar' in Quran24:31


does not mean headcover?

Why so scared to answer?

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sam1528 posted on 23-4-2014 02:11 PM
I say again , you are a liar and a dishonest person. Why?
(1) Your copy paste about Mustapha Moha ...

why all the bla bla bla bla...
my question still stand:

you caught me? infact is you are lying...i could says maybe  70% do not agreed the hijab or   head covering.....
are they  unbelievers????

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Post time 23-4-2014 03:54 PM | Show all posts
Kalau terus tak pakai apa-apa truth macamana? kau suka tengok ke?
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zamkumis posted on 23-4-2014 03:54 PM
Kalau terus tak pakai apa-apa truth macamana? kau suka tengok ke?

kan saya tulis pakai yg bersopan dan pakaian tidak begitu ketat ....dan kain yg tutup bahagain dada...isu tutup rambut tidak perlu lah...sebab itu 70% muslims berkata quran tidak menyebut isu tutup rambut di kepala...

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