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Rukun iman ke 6 percaya qada & qadar. Maknanya Tuhan yg tentukan segalanya. Ayat 4.78 selari rukun iman ke 6. Tapi ayat 4.79 bercanggah sebab jika manusia jahat bukan salah manusia tapi salah Tuhan yg tentukan manusia jadi jahat.
Cuba lihat percanggahan seterusnya. Siapakah yg menerima Taurat. Ayat 5.46 - rasul sebelum Nabi Isa. Ayat 5.110 - Nabi Isa.
http://www.surah.my/5#46
http://www.surah.my/5#110
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Tiada bukan makhluk kecuali Tuhan. Jadi hijab pun makhluk.
Ada orang kata Quran bukan makhluk. Tapi realitinya Quran pun makhluk.
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Mengadap mana pula jika pindah ke planet lain.
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Alion
Tiada bukan makhluk kecuali Tuhan. Jadi hijab pun makhluk.
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Bukankah sumber dari Bible juga menyatakan manusia itu dari Adam & Eve? Kalau kata Yahudi dan Arab tu dari genetik yang sama, bangsa-bangsa lain pun dari genetik yang sama dari Adam...
Kan?
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Quran konpem bukan org Arab yg cipta, tapi dorg ciplak, faham tak perkataan ciplak tu, org Arab ciplak dr bangsa sendiri yg bermazhab Yahudi, faham tak kebenaran tu, sbb apa yg ko ckp tu menjadi bukti ciplak, proses kejadian manusia kalu sebelum tu xde, lepas tu tambah, itu la ciplak
cuba ko upload mana proses kejadian manusia tu, ustaz iols x penah citer pon, iols nak tgk saintifik ke tak
Cuba kaji kandungan Al-Quran berikut:
| A) The Quran on Human Embryonic Development: | In the Holy Quran, God speaks about the stages of man’s embryonic development: |
 We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqahinto a mudghah (chewed substance)...  1(Quran, 23:12-14)Literally, the Arabic word alaqah has three meanings: (1) leech, (2) suspended thing, and (3) blood clot. In comparing a leech to an embryo in the alaqah stage, we find similarity between the two2 as we can see in figure 1. Also, the embryo at this stage obtains nourishment from the blood of the mother, similar to the leech, which feeds on the blood of others.3 | Figure 1: Drawings illustrating the similarities in appearance between a leech and a human embryo at the alaqah stage. (Leech drawing from Human Development as Described in the Quran and Sunnah, Moore and others, p. 37, modified from Integrated Principles of Zoology, Hickman and others. Embryo drawing from The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 73.) |
The second meaning of the word alaqah is “suspended thing.” This is what we can see in figures 2 and 3, the suspension of the embryo, during the alaqah stage, in the womb of the mother. Figure 2: We can see in this diagram the suspension of an embryo during thealaqah stage in the womb (uterus) of the mother. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 66.) (Click on the image to enlarge it.) | | | | | Figure 3: In this photomicrograph, we can see the suspension of an embryo (marked B) during the alaqahstage (about 15 days old) in the womb of the mother. The actual size of the embryo is about 0.6 mm. (The Developing Human, Moore, 3rd ed., p. 66, from Histology, Leeson and Leeson.) | |
The third meaning of the word alaqah is “blood clot.” We find that the external appearance of the embryo and its sacs during the alaqah stage is similar to that of a blood clot. This is due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo during this stage4 (see figure 4). Also during this stage, the blood in the embryo does not circulate until the end of the third week.5 Thus, the embryo at this stage is like a clot of blood. Figure 4: Diagram of the primitive cardiovascular system in an embryo during thealaqah stage. The external appearance of the embryo and its sacs is similar to that of a blood clot, due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood present in the embryo. (The Developing Human, Moore, 5th ed., p. 65.) (Click on the image to enlarge it.) |  |
So the three meanings of the word alaqah correspond accurately to the descriptions of the embryo at the alaqahstage. The next stage mentioned in the verse is the mudghahstage. The Arabic word mudghah means “chewed substance.” If one were to take a piece of gum and chew it in his or her mouth and then compare it with an embryo at the mudghah stage, we would conclude that the embryo at the mudghah stage acquires the appearance of a chewed substance. This is because of the somites at the back of the embryo that “somewhat resemble teethmarks in a chewed substance.”6 (see figures 5 and 6). Figure 5: Photograph of an embryo at themudghah stage (28 days old). The embryo at this stage acquires the appearance of a chewed substance, because the somites at the back of the embryo somewhat resemble teeth marks in a chewed substance. The actual size of the embryo is 4 mm. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 82, from Professor Hideo Nishimura, Kyoto University, Kyoto, Japan.) | 
| | | | Figure 6: When comparing the appearance of an embryo at the mudghahstage with a piece of gum that has been chewed, we find similarity between the two.
A) Drawing of an embryo at the mudghahstage. We can see here the somites at the back of the embryo that look like teeth marks. (The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 79.)
B) Photograph of a piece of gum that has been chewed.
(Click on the image to enlarge it.) | 
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How could Muhammad  have possibly known all this 1400 years ago, when scientists have only recently discovered this using advanced equipment and powerful microscopes which did not exist at that time? Hamm and Leeuwenhoek were the first scientists to observe human sperm cells (spermatozoa) using an improved microscope in 1677 (more than 1000 years after Muhammad ). They mistakenly thought that the sperm cell contained a miniature preformed human being that grew when it was deposited in the female genital tract.7 Professor Emeritus Keith L. Moore8 is one of the world’s most prominent scientists in the fields of anatomy and embryology and is the author of the book entitled The Developing Human, which has been translated into eight languages. This book is a scientific reference work and was chosen by a special committee in the United States as the best book authored by one person. Dr. Keith Moore is Professor Emeritus of Anatomy and Cell Biology at the University of Toronto, Toronto, Canada. There, he was Associate Dean of Basic Sciences at the Faculty of Medicine and for 8 years was the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy. In 1984, he received the most distinguished award presented in the field of anatomy in Canada, the J.C.B. Grant Award from the Canadian Association of Anatomists. He has directed many international associations, such as the Canadian and American Association of Anatomists and the Council of the Union of Biological Sciences. In 1981, during the Seventh Medical Conference in Dammam, Saudi Arabia, Professor Moore said: “It has been a great pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Quran about human development. It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God, because almost all of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of God.”9 (To view the RealPlayer video of this comment click here  ). Consequently, Professor Moore was asked the following question: “Does this mean that you believe that the Quran is the word of God?” He replied: “I find no difficulty in accepting this.”10 During one conference, Professor Moore stated: “....Because the staging of human embryos is complex, owing to the continuous process of change during development, it is proposed that a new system of classification could be developed using the terms mentioned in the Quran and Sunnah (what Muhammad said, did, or approved of). The proposed system is simple, comprehensive, and conforms with present embryological knowledge. The intensive studies of the Quran and hadeeth(reliably transmitted reports by the Prophet Muhammad’s companions of what he said, did, or approved of) in the last four years have revealed a system for classifying human embryos that is amazing since it was recorded in the seventh century A.D. Although Aristotle, the founder of the science of embryology, realized that chick embryos developed in stages from his studies of hen’s eggs in the fourth century B.C., he did not give any details about these stages. As far as it is known from the history of embryology, little was known about the staging and classification of human embryos until the twentieth century. For this reason, the descriptions of the human embryo in the Quran cannot be based on scientific knowledge in the seventh century. The only reasonable conclusion is: these descriptions were revealed to Muhammad from God. He could not have known such details because he was an illiterate man with absolutely no scientific training.”11 (View the RealPlayer video of this comment ). Footnotes: (1) Please note that what is between these special brackets ... in this web site is only a translation of the meaning of the Quran. It is not the Quran itself, which is in Arabic.  (2) The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 8. (3) Human Development as Described in the Quran and Sunnah, Moore and others, p. 36. (4) Human Development as Described in the Quran and Sunnah, Moore and others, pp. 37-38. (5) The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 65. (6) The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 8. (7) The Developing Human, Moore and Persaud, 5th ed., p. 9. (8) Note: The occupations of all the scientists mentioned in this web site were last updated in 1997. (9) The reference for this saying is This is the Truth (videotape). For a copy of this videotape, please visit this page. (10) This is the Truth (videotape). (11) This is the Truth (videotape). For a copy, see footnote no. 9.
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Edited by blastoff at 9-5-2015 02:24 PM
Alion, patutnya apa saja idea yang kau nak utarakan kau perlu bawak mai bukti nyata yang boleh di lihat dengan mata kepala kita orang semua , kerana itu kepercayaan kau yang kau dok canang nonstop kat thread ni, takkan nak cakap tak serupa bikin kot ?
Berapa banyak daaaa idea2 kau sendiri mengenai tuhan yang kau dok hambur kat thread ni tapi satu bukti nyata pun kau tarak kasi maaa, just pot pet pot pet je .
See, kau sendiri redah percaya perkara merapu mengenai tuhan without any tangible proof whatsoever, kau sendiri dah failed untuk bersandarkan pada bukti nyata apa2 pun , so prinsip yang kau riuhkan di thread ni mengenai bukti nyata tu cuma cakap2 kosong kau je lah ye . 
Kalau stakat kau nak cakap kosong je thread ni boleh jadi sampai 1000 page lah jawabnya sekejap je.
Hanya orang lain perlu provide segala maknenek proof ntah hape hape yang kau berulangkali minta, tapi kau sendiri tak perlu provide apa2 bukti nyata pun lah plak, mana adil gitu plak kann .  Tarak accountability dalam berdiskusi lah kalau gitu , apa yang boleh kau capai kalau kau asyik dok bias gitu ?  |
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Edited by blastoff at 9-5-2015 03:28 PM
Kau tu ada nampakkah tuhan musnahkan dirinya sendiri yang menyebabkan kau boleh percaya gitu ?
Bila kau nampak , kat mana ?
Atas sebab apa dia nak musnahkan diri dia sendiri depan mata kau ?
Dia habaq kat kau sendiri ka dia tuhan ?
See, soalan yang sama yang kau dok tala kat orang , aku boleh tala balik kat kau, jawab la , jawab hokeh .
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Ko ni gila ka apa, kalau sama takdak lah Arab takda lah Yahudi. Memang la ada persamaan, tapi BUKANNYA SAMA semua ciri.
Ada perbezaan lah yang menyebabkan satu dipanggil Arab, satu dipanggil Yahudi.
Yang ko nak guna Wiki tu nak cari persamaan, apa nak heran!
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jangan ludah ke langit next time hokeh, kan dah pelepupp atas batang hidung kau sendiri tu .
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Edited by blastoff at 9-5-2015 02:49 PM
Alion replied at 28-4-2015 08:57 PM
Agama & moral macam tak serasi. Kita tak boleh dakwa sesuatu perkara itu benar jika tiada bukti. Tapi agama dakwa byk perkara itu benar tanpa bukti. Adakah ini betul dari segi moral..
Kat perkataan agama tu kau cuma perlu masukkan nama kau sendiri " alion " fit perfectly .
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Tu la ko pening... sebab dok ceduk website anti Islam. Lepas satu penjelasan diberi, keluar yang lain pula.
Ni la akibat copy paste percaya BUTA pada tuduhan pihak anti Islam,yang sendiri tepek pun TAK BACA BETUL-BETUL.
Baca betul-betul bahagian yang DIGARISKAN.
5.46 Taurat sebelum Nabi Isa, dibenarkan oleh rasul-rasul terdahulu. Jelas ayat ni sebut Injil diturunkan kepada Isa AS.
Dan Kami utuskan Nabi Isa Ibni Maryam mengikuti jejak langkah mereka (Nabi-nabi Bani Israil), untuk membenarkan Kitab Taurat yang diturunkan sebelumnya; dan Kami telah berikan kepadanya Kitab Injil, yang mengandungi petunjuk hidayah dan cahaya yang menerangi, sambil mengesahkan benarnya apa yang telah ada di hadapannya dari Kitab Taurat, serta menjadi petunjuk dan nasihat pengajaran bagi orang-orang yang (hendak) bertaqwa.
5.110: Bukan sebut Taurat diturunkan kepada Isa, akan tetapi Allah AJAR Taurat kepada Nabi Isa. Juga Allah ajar Injil kepada Isa, yang mana Injil diturunkan kepada Isa.
(Ingatlah) ketika Allah berfirman: "Wahai Isa ibni Maryam! Kenanglah nikmatKu kepadamu dan kepada ibumu, ketika Aku menguatkanmu dengan Ruhul-Qudus (Jibril), iaitu engkau dapat berkata-kata dengan manusia (semasa engkau masih kecil) dalam buaian dan sesudah dewasa; dan (ingatlah) ketika Aku mengajarmu menulis membaca, dan hikmat pengetahuan, khasnya Kitab Taurat dan Kitab Injil; dan (ingatlah) ketika engkau jadikan dari tanah seperti bentuk burung dengan izinKu, kemudian engkau tiupkan padanya, lalu menjadilah ia seekor burung dengan izinku; dan (ingatlah ketika) engkau menyembuhkan orang buta dan orang sopak dengan izinku; dan (ingatlah) ketika engkau menghidupkan orang-orang yang mati dengan izinKu; dan (ingatlah) ketika Aku menghalangi Bani Israil daripada membunuhmu, ketika engkau datang kepada mereka dengan membawa keterangan-keterangan (mukjizat), lalu orang-orang yang kafir di antara mereka berkata: "Bahawa ini hanyalah sihir yang terang nyata"
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Jika Tuhan tak berkuasa musnahkan dirinya ertinya kuasa Tuhan terbatas.
Kuasa Tuhan kekal walaupun Tuhan musnah bila alam ini berjalan spt biasa tanpa Tuhan.
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Ayat 5.110 sebut Allah kurniakan hikmat pengetahuan kitab Taurat & kitab Injil. Maknanya Nabi Isa dikurniakan 2 kitab Taurat & Injil. Allah ajar maksudnya Allah kurniakan.
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Tuhan bukan makhluk sebab tak wujud. Hanya makhluk yg boleh dibuktikan wujud.
Hantu pun bukan makhluk sebab tak wujud. Takut hantu bukan bermakna hantu wujud.
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Ayat 5.110 sebut Allah kurniakan hikmat pengetahuan kitab Taurat & kitab Injil. Maknanya Nabi Isa dikurniakan 2 kitab Taurat & Injil. Allah ajar maksudnya Allah kurniakan.
Kurnia hikmat pengetahuan bukan semestinya bermakna kurnia kitab. Itu kurnia pengetahuan tentang kandungan kitab.
Isa AS terima Injil, dan juga terima ilmu pengetahuan tentang Injil. Isa AS juga terima ilmu pengetahuan tentang kandungan Taurat, WALAUPUN tidak terima kitab Taurat.
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mender ajaib ni bukan takat quran je ada, tamadun lain pon ada gara2 keajaiban dia, contoh nye org Mesir purba cipta pyramid, cara dia buat sampai kang masih saintis x dpt kaji, termasuk Quran dr Nabi Mohd x mampu tulis cara dia
tapi yg paling penting ..... siapa yg backward rite now, siapa yg paling byk penganas now
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Edited by zjen at 9-5-2015 06:30 PM
cina dan jepun pon ada beza ciri2 nye, tapi hakikat nye mengikut kajian sains dorg DNA sama, so tak kira ko betapa sayang org arab, betapa benci yahudi, tapi hakikat nye dorg DNA sama, tapi soal nye Nabi Mohd tak tahu tentang apa tu DNA, so dlm Quran xde sebut DNA
kalu ko nak bising, bising jelah, mender kajian sains ni ketentuan Allah, ketentuan yg nak bagitau satu dunia tentang level otak ko dan juga org yg kuat agama
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Edited by chazey at 9-5-2015 07:13 PM
mnm77 replied at 9-5-2015 01:51 PM
Bukankah sumber dari Bible juga menyatakan manusia itu dari Adam & Eve? Kalau kata Yahudi dan ...
Namun Bible spesifik mention pasal anak2 nabi Ibrahim yakni Ishak, yang dipercayai menjadi moyang pada bangsa Yahudi, dan Ishmael, yang dipercayai menjadi moyang pada bangsa Arab. Elohim janji Abraham akan menjadi bapa kepada bangsa2 dan anak-anaknya akan diberkati jua. Kristian percaya itu sebabnya sekarang ini agama Kristian dan Islam paling ramai pengikut di seluruh dunia disebabkan oleh janji Elohim itu.
Akak percaya Arab benci sangat dengan Yahudi pun adalah disebabkan oleh sejarah antara dua beradik tiri ini. Akak salahkan Sarah dan nabi Ibrahim. Jika mereka ikut saja kata Elohim, takda la rasa benci itu diwarisi turun temurun hingga seterusnya diwarisi pula oleh penganut agama Samawi.
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