Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similitude. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners"
Since non of the points i put forward are clarified and refuted(doubt there are any...), it is only natural to repeat the same unanswered post....
Still Maslaning around(sam1528's brethren of same faith) without slim bit of reasoning and facts to refute my points, what can i say, one cannot defends what is indefensible....
Worse still now he is downplaying his Hadith and Sunnah by stuttering that Quran is less violent than Hadith, is he insinuating that Hadith is more violent than Quran ? Yes !
What is Hadith ? - Collection of quotes by vile prophet, Mu_ham_mad.
But as we all know, Quran contains violent verses as well, it is just that it is "less" violent because it didn't come out directly from Mu_Ham_Mad's mouth..
As these verses show;
"And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing....Quran 2:191
"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement" Quran 5:33
But of cause, it is appalled by what Hadith has to say; Bukhari 52:260 The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' " Note that there is no distinction as to how that Muslim came to be a Muslim.
Bukhari 84:57; Allah's Apostle said (Muhammad), 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"
Any wonder why this brethren of Maslan enjoy shooting and banging his own head ?
I have been proven right again and again and again.
Told you , our resident hater in Goh Mas Lan or 'wkk5159-maslan' will go in a roundabout chasing his own backside. He goes from Quran4:89 to Quran2:191 and then Quran5:33 , then go around in circles. When asked for the exegesis , oops ..... he doesn't even know what the word is. Oh yeah .... quoting out of context is his game. Ha ha ..... the game of deceit yeah ..... you are a christian apologist .... of course that is your game.
Therefore nothing lah from you with regards to any injunction in the Quran calling for the killing of apostates. LOL , you are already confused with the bible.
I am still awaiting your counter argument with the regards to the biblical injunction to kill apostates ..... why so scared maaa ...
13:6 If–your brother, the son of your mother, or your son, or your daughter, or the wife of your bosom, or your friend, which is as your own soul–entice you secretly, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods,” which you have not known–not you, nor your fathers;
13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, near to you, or far off from you, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
13:8 You shall not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall your eye pity him, neither shall you spare, neither shall you conceal him:
13:9 But you must surely kill him; your hand must be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
13:10 And you must stone him with stones, that he die; because he has sought to thrust you away from the LORD your God.
Well, that’s pretty damning evidence right there. That sounds a lot like “honor” killing: “If your brother…or your son or your daughter….entice you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and worship other gods’…You must kill him…you must stone him with stones, that he die.” Well, if that’s in the Quran, then we better ban all Muslim immigration to America!
But before we call Homeland Security, I hope you don’t mind if I check the Quran to verify if those verses exist.
[Flipping through pages of Quran]
Hmmm, can’t seem to find it.
Oh wait, *smacks forehead*, I remember now where those verses are from. Ahh yes, they are from the Bible (Deuteronomy, 13:6-10). There are of course many other Biblical verses in the same vein, such as 2 Chronicles 15:13 which reads: “All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.”
Oopsie doopsie!
Ha ha , too bad .... you have lost and lost big time.
Ha ha , I say again : it doesn't take much for you to shoot yourself in your head
Her favourite, www.loonwatch.com, a website hosted by fanatic muslim disguise as moderate muslims aiming at bleaching the indefensible image of Islam...
Warning - Loonwatch the Deceptive Muslim Web Site http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/T5JOLCIH91OI21OSC
13:6 If–your brother, the son of your mother, or your son, or your daughter, or the wife of your bosom, or your friend, which is as your own soul–entice you secretly, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods,” which you have not known–not you, nor your fathers;
13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, near to you, or far off from you, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
13:8 You shall not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall your eye pity him, neither shall you spare, neither shall you conceal him:
13:9 But you must surely kill him; your hand must be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
13:10 And you must stone him with stones, that he die; because he has sought to thrust you away from the LORD your God.
Well, that’s pretty damning evidence right there. That sounds a lot like “honor” killing: “If your brother…or your son or your daughter….entice you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and worship other gods’…You must kill him…you must stone him with stones, that he die.” Well, if that’s in the Quran, then we better ban all Muslim immigration to America!
But before we call Homeland Security, I hope you don’t mind if I check the Quran to verify if those verses exist.
[Flipping through pages of Quran]
Hmmm, can’t seem to find it.
Oh wait, *smacks forehead*, I remember now where those verses are from. Ahh yes, they are from the Bible (Deuteronomy, 13:6-10). There are of course many other Biblical verses in the same vein, such as 2 Chronicles 15:13 which reads: “All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.”
Oopsie doopsie!
Do have a look at your counter argument. You are too scared to even respond to the issue but blabber about 'taqqiya' lah , 'fanatic muslims disguised by moderate muslims' lah.
Aiyoo tambi , the issue here is the biblical injunction to kill apostates. It has got nothing to do with your lame excuses.
Observe folks ..... our resident hater in Goh Mas Lan or 'wkk5159-maslan' cannot even answer a simple argument backed by the biblical scripture. Then he starts to blabber about irrelevant things.
Mau lari ka? Ha ha ..... got you again .... as I always do ....
Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similitude. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners"
LOL , you should be ashamed claiming yourself to be a true professional and an expert in your field.
Ok we have some loons holding placards ..... what is the issue?
Suddenly you try to connect the loons holding the placards to Quran47:3-4. This is not even quoting out of context. It is quoting out of subject. Ha ha , christianity must have fried your brains. Believe some more lah in the trinity , 3 distinct persons but 1 God ...... no wonder you are confused.
As per the underlined and hilited in red , what do one do when you meet your foe in battle? Ha ha , in your wet dreams you hold hands and sing 'kumbaya'? LOL , this is so funny. Oops , you don't seem to realise that at that time people fought with swords and spears.
How appropriate this quote from Martin Luther King for defender of certain faith in this forum......
Ha ha , you are quoting out of subject again.
Ha ha , you claim to be a medical professional in your own words , a true professional and an expert in your field .... you don't look good lah.
Let me see , you copy paste a quote from Martin Luther King and then connect the quote to people trying to correct the deceit of christian apologist like you.
Ha ha , all I am asking is to
- provide the context of the Quranic verses you argued on
- provide where in the Quran that calls for the murder of apostates
- provide the exegesis or context of the so called hadith that you claim calling for the murder of apostates
LOL , until now ...... NOTHING from you except in you going around in circles chasing your backside.
Ha ha , you are so scared to even comment on the biblical injunction to kill apostates per Deuteronomy, 13:6-10
See, i told you guys, this Maslanic ustazy only appeals to notorious deceptive website hosted by extremist muslim; loonwatch.com.
Where do you think "smack forehead" and "oopsie doopsie" came from ? And that muslim apologist by the pseodonym Danios, who is Danios ? “Danios of Loonwatch,” a purveyor of pretentious puffery at the Islamic supremacist hate site Loonwatch
Here is a good example:
Glen Roberts: Loonwatch and the Non-Muslim Terrorist
Glen Roberts (thereligionofpeace.com) has posted an excellent refutation of Loonwatch's absurd claim that 94% of terrorist attacks are committed by non-Muslims. Loonwatch offers the following breakdown of terrorist attacks:
Here's Glen's obliteration of the deception:
Since January, 2010 the Islamic propaganda outlet Loonwatch.com has prominently posted an article with the title "All Terrorists are Muslim… except the 94% that aren’t." Although not saying exactly who it is that believes "all terrorists are Muslim", the gist of the piece is that an FBI report from seven years ago concluded that the vast majority of attacks have nothing to do with Islam.
As Loonwatch puts it:
Only 6% of terror attacks are by Muslims
7% of terrorism is by Jewish extremists
66% of terror attacks are by leftists and Latinos
This would appear to defy common sense. Reports of bombings, shootings, stabbings and even beheadings by terrorists cross the newswire each day. Some are indeed the work of communist groups or nationalists, but the vast majority are clearly the product of Islamic extremists who kill in the name of religion.
Loonwatch is playing a couple of tricks here - the biggest being that they are drawing on domestic data only. In other words, when they say that 94% of terrorists aren't Muslim, they actually mean in the United States, where terror attacks are relatively rare and Muslims make up only 1% of the population.
So, if we ignore the overwhelming bulk of attacks across the globe, Muslims are "only" six times more likely to commit acts of terror than the general population. The numbers for Loonwatch get even worse on closer examination.
As it turns out, much of the FBI list includes "violence" against property rather than people. In fact, the formula used by the agency to define terrorism is somewhat fuzzy. While it includes tree-spiking and bank robbery, for example, it somehow omits the Arizona assassination of a Sunni cleric by Iranian terrorists in 1980, the 1990 murder of Rabbi Kahane by an Islamic radical at a New York hotel, and even the killing of two CIA agents by a Muslim extremist at Langley in 1993.
When Americans hear the word 'terrorism', however, what comes to mind isn't vandalism, but rather those acts of genuine violence that are intended to cause loss of life. So, how do we focus on these incidents and filter out the rest?
Well, perhaps the best way of knowing whether terrorists are serious about killing people is if they actually do. Since Muslims and non-Muslim terrorists have equal opportunity to kill, Loonwatch shouldn’t object to an analysis of only those attacks which cause deaths. What does the data have to say when we exclude non-lethal attacks?
Even by the FBI’s curious standard, the sort of truly violent terrorism that most concerns Americans is extremely rare in the United States. Only 29 attacks on their list of incidents between 1980 and 2005 resulted in actual death. Of these, Islamic extremists were responsible for 24%, accounting for 2,981 kills, while non-Muslim attackers racked up 196.
Thus, what the FBI report is really saying is that a demographic which makes up only 1% of the American population accounts for one-fourth of all deadly terror attacks in the U.S. and 94% of related casualties! (The 94% statistic is somewhat ironic because it is the same figure than Loonwatch is touting to dispel concerns). The Jewish population in the U.S. is more than twice that of Muslims, but there were only three so-called Jewish attacks during the entire 25 years (all by the "Jewish Defense League") with a total of three killed.
Since 2005, there have been at least six additional deadly attacks that would probably qualify as terrorism in the U.S. even to the FBI. One was the 2012 shooting by a skinhead that resulted in six deaths at a Sikh temple and the other five were by Muslims, which left 19 dead. This means that since 1980, Muslims in the U.S. have been 35 times more likely to commit terror than all other demographics combined.
Now, the point of all this isn’t to "prove" that any particular person is dangerous. The numbers are quite low and it is unlikely that the Muslim you know personally is all that different from you, much less plotting mass murder. A person's nominal religion is not grounds for thinking a certain way about them or for reaching conclusions that are based on anything other than their own words or deeds.
What we are demonstrating is how Muslim propaganda groups like Loonwatch and CAIR knowingly manipulate the public into false conclusions about Islam using disingenuous methods. They are also dishonest when they try to confuse people into thinking that criticism of Islamic bigotry means hatred for Muslims.
Taqiyya may be a part of Islamic law, but a noble cause never requires a lie.
Then again... how noble can a religion really be when it's most vocal members are far more concerned about image than the dead and dismembered victims of the devout? (Source)
wkk5159 replied at 16-8-2015 11:35 AM
ee, i told you guys, this Maslanic ustazy only appeals to notorious deceptive website hosted by extremist muslim; loonwatch.com.
Where do you think "smack forehead" and "oopsie doopsie" came from ? And that muslim apologist by the pseodonym Danios, who is Danios ? “Danios of Loonwatch,” a purveyor of pretentious puffery at the Islamic supremacist hate site Loonwatch
Here is a good example:
Glen Roberts: Loonwatch and the Non-Muslim Terrorist
Glen Roberts (thereligionofpeace.com) has posted an excellent refutation of Loonwatch's absurd claim that 94% of terrorist attacks are committed by non-Muslims. Loonwatch offers the following breakdown of terrorist attacks:
Here's Glen's obliteration of the deception:
Since January, 2010 the Islamic propaganda outlet Loonwatch.com has prominently posted an article with the title "All Terrorists are Muslim… except the 94% that aren’t." Although not saying exactly who it is that believes "all terrorists are Muslim", the gist of the piece is that an FBI report from seven years ago concluded that the vast majority of attacks have nothing to do with Islam.
As Loonwatch puts it:
Only 6% of terror attacks are by Muslims
7% of terrorism is by Jewish extremists
66% of terror attacks are by leftists and Latinos
This would appear to defy common sense. Reports of bombings, shootings, stabbings and even beheadings by terrorists cross the newswire each day. Some are indeed the work of communist groups or nationalists, but the vast majority are clearly the product of Islamic extremists who kill in the name of religion.
Loonwatch is playing a couple of tricks here - the biggest being that they are drawing on domestic data only. In other words, when they say that 94% of terrorists aren't Muslim, they actually mean in the United States, where terror attacks are relatively rare and Muslims make up only 1% of the population.
So, if we ignore the overwhelming bulk of attacks across the globe, Muslims are "only" six times more likely to commit acts of terror than the general population. The numbers for Loonwatch get even worse on closer examination.
As it turns out, much of the FBI list includes "violence" against property rather than people. In fact, the formula used by the agency to define terrorism is somewhat fuzzy. While it includes tree-spiking and bank robbery, for example, it somehow omits the Arizona assassination of a Sunni cleric by Iranian terrorists in 1980, the 1990 murder of Rabbi Kahane by an Islamic radical at a New York hotel, and even the killing of two CIA agents by a Muslim extremist at Langley in 1993.
When Americans hear the word 'terrorism', however, what comes to mind isn't vandalism, but rather those acts of genuine violence that are intended to cause loss of life. So, how do we focus on these incidents and filter out the rest?
Well, perhaps the best way of knowing whether terrorists are serious about killing people is if they actually do. Since Muslims and non-Muslim terrorists have equal opportunity to kill, Loonwatch shouldn’t object to an analysis of only those attacks which cause deaths. What does the data have to say when we exclude non-lethal attacks?
Even by the FBI’s curious standard, the sort of truly violent terrorism that most concerns Americans is extremely rare in the United States. Only 29 attacks on their list of incidents between 1980 and 2005 resulted in actual death. Of these, Islamic extremists were responsible for 24%, accounting for 2,981 kills, while non-Muslim attackers racked up 196.
Thus, what the FBI report is really saying is that a demographic which makes up only 1% of the American population accounts for one-fourth of all deadly terror attacks in the U.S. and 94% of related casualties! (The 94% statistic is somewhat ironic because it is the same figure than Loonwatch is touting to dispel concerns). The Jewish population in the U.S. is more than twice that of Muslims, but there were only three so-called Jewish attacks during the entire 25 years (all by the "Jewish Defense League") with a total of three killed.
Since 2005, there have been at least six additional deadly attacks that would probably qualify as terrorism in the U.S. even to the FBI. One was the 2012 shooting by a skinhead that resulted in six deaths at a Sikh temple and the other five were by Muslims, which left 19 dead. This means that since 1980, Muslims in the U.S. have been 35 times more likely to commit terror than all other demographics combined.
Now, the point of all this isn’t to "prove" that any particular person is dangerous. The numbers are quite low and it is unlikely that the Muslim you know personally is all that different from you, much less plotting mass murder. A person's nominal religion is not grounds for thinking a certain way about them or for reaching conclusions that are based on anything other than their own words or deeds.
What we are demonstrating is how Muslim propaganda groups like Loonwatch and CAIR knowingly manipulate the public into false conclusions about Islam using disingenuous methods. They are also dishonest when they try to confuse people into thinking that criticism of Islamic bigotry means hatred for Muslims.
Taqiyya may be a part of Islamic law, but a noble cause never requires a lie.
Then again... how noble can a religion really be when it's most vocal members are far more concerned about image than the dead and dismembered victims of the devout? (Source)
So ? What kind od people appeal to loonwatch ???
LOL , see folks , our resident hater in Goh Mas Lan or 'wkk5159-maslan' continuously refused to answer to any issues. Don't you think it is about time you explain why are you so scared to respond to any issue that you initially argued on?
Now he runs off to what I call a pathetic attempt to refute Danois of Loonwatch with regards to the data on terrorism. This has been thoroughly refuted by the said author :
An Islamophobe commented on this article, saying that the statistics are flawed because the FBI included small acts such as “stealing rats from a lab” as an act of terrorism. Of course, this is patently false. Here is a breakdown of the terrorist attacks by type (the pie chart is from the FBI’s official website and can be accessed here):
Terrorism by Event, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database
This is what we call self denial by the resident hater in Goh Mas Lan or 'wkk5159-maslan'.
You cannot refute the FBI data , you call it fradulent but offer no alternate data nor facts nor evidence. Rhetorics won't get you anywhere.
Initially, Spencer had used my anonymity as an excuse to get out of debating me. After over a year and a half, he seemed to finally put this condition aside and agreed to debate me. I offered Salon Radio as a possible choice for venue and moderator, to which Spencer initially agreed. Shortly thereafter, however, Spencer chickened out of this, claiming that Salon Radio was not a neutral venue. He then insisted upon ABN Sat, a loony right-wing Christian channel with anti-Muslim shows on it like Jihad Exposed.
Remember: Spencer rejected Salon Radio because it was not neutral enough, but meanwhile he has debated Muslims on ABN, which is the last thing on earth that could be called “neutral”. Anyone see the double standard?
Ha ha , got you again .... and again .... and again ....
Hahaha....this Maslanic ustazy is doing the Maslanic lie again but too bad his poor excuses for a bad lie doesn't ring a bell to all the good Samarithans.....
What true FBI stastistic said about the most wanted terrorists ???
wkk5159 replied at 18-8-2015 04:57 PM
Hahaha....this Maslanic ustazy is doing the Maslanic lie again but too bad his poor excuses for a bad lie doesn't ring a bell to all the good Samarithans.....
What true FBI stastistic said about the most wanted terrorists ???
Can you all see how many of the most wanted terrorists are muslims like sam1528 ???
99.99% !!!
What are these faces ????
this one is most likely the sissy australoid ustazy sam1528 aka Isnilon Totoni Hapilon
Ahmad Ibrahim Al-Mughassil
Ayman Al-Zawahiri
Ali Saed bin Ali EWl-Hoorie
Ibrahim Salleh Mohammad Al-Yacoub
Ramadan Abdullah Mohammad Shallah
LOL , you are going around chasing your own backside.
You must have scoured the internet for more than a day but couldn't find any answers to my simple challenge per my post#108.
Now you bring up the already refuted arguments about the FBI wanted list? This argument of yours have been thoroughly refuted in the the following thread ; I copy paste Prof Juan Cole's analysis per my then post#45 :-
The following is the analysis of Prof Juan Cole (Richard P. Mitchell Collegiate Professor of History at the University of Michigan).
As for political violence, people of Christian heritage in the twentieth century polished off tens of millions of people in the two world wars and colonial repression. This massive carnage did not occur because European Christians are worse than or different from other human beings, but because they were the first to industrialize war and pursue a national model. Sometimes it is argued that they did not act in the name of religion but of nationalism. But, really, how naive. Religion and nationalism are closely intertwined
I don’t figure that Muslims killed more than a 2 million people or so in political violence in the entire twentieth century, and that mainly in the Iran-Iraq War 1980-1988 and the Soviet and post-Soviet wars in Afghanistan, for which Europeans bear some blame.
Compare that to the Christian European tally of, oh, lets say 100 million (16 million in WW I, 60 million in WW II– though some of those were attributable to Buddhists in Asia– and millions more in colonial wars.)
It takes a peculiar sort of blindness to see Christians of European heritage as “nice” and Muslims and inherently violent, given the twentieth century death toll I mentioned above
Where is your data to refute me? Keep looking ..... you will never find it. Ha ha , perhaps in 'Atlas Shrug' or 'Jihad Watch'. Poor you. You are one kissing the dust ....
Do you know what is data? Aiyah Goh Mas Lan or 'wkk5159-maslan' . it appears that the word 'data' is alien to you ..... ha ha
See how i smashed these rancid lies into smithreens ???
LOL , what have you refuted and smashed?
Oh you mean that you have 'refuted' me by appealing to the so called 'son of Hamas' per 'truth.8' post#69? Ha ha , you still have not answered me on this issue - how do know or confirm that this person is actually the son of a high ranking or the founder of Hamas? Until now you cannot answer but run from one issue to another. Appears that running from issues is all you are good for. I am not surprised that one day you would run away from your wife.
Observe folks , Goh Mas Lan or 'wkk5159-maslan' appeals to
- Walid Shoebat who claim to be a former muslim and PLO and claimed to have bombed Bank Lumi but the said bank stated nothing of that sort happened
- the so called 'son of Hamas' which only he claim to be
- Ergun Caner who claim to be an ex muslim but got exposed being a liar , an example is as follows
- the latest being Dr Ravi Zacharias who does not even have a PhD
The common denominator of these people is that they collect $ from the gullible christians like our resident hater.
Ha ha , how much have you contributed to these type of people.
Compare such to my reference
- Dr Bart Ehrman , a foremost bible critic
- Prof Juan Cole , a middle east expert
- Dr John Esposito , professor of Islamic studies
- Dr Robert Pape , the world leading expert on terrorism expecially suicide terrorism
I don't know about you folks , by now you should realize the standard of Goh Mas Lan or 'wkk5159-maslan' who claim to be a true professional and an expert in his own field.
Can you all see how many of the most wanted terrorists are muslims like sam1528 ???
99.99% !!!
What are these faces ????
this one is most likely the sissy australoid ustazy sam1528 aka Isnilon Totoni Hapilon
Ahmad Ibrahim Al-Mughassil
Ayman Al-Zawahiri
Ali Saed bin Ali EWl-Hoorie
Ibrahim Salleh Mohammad Al-Yacoub
Ramadan Abdullah Mohammad Shallah
Translation : Christianity is under criticism by sam1528 , and it is my duty to defend christianity and lying is permitted per romans3:7 (NIV bible)
Someone might argue, "If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?"
Ha ha , I asked for data. An example of data is as follows , per my post #110 :
Commentary to the data , reproduced again :
As for political violence, people of Christian heritage in the twentieth century polished off tens of millions of people in the two world wars and colonial repression. This massive carnage did not occur because European Christians are worse than or different from other human beings, but because they were the first to industrialize war and pursue a national model. Sometimes it is argued that they did not act in the name of religion but of nationalism. But, really, how naive. Religion and nationalism are closely intertwined
I don’t figure that Muslims killed more than a 2 million people or so in political violence in the entire twentieth century, and that mainly in the Iran-Iraq War 1980-1988 and the Soviet and post-Soviet wars in Afghanistan, for which Europeans bear some blame.
Compare that to the Christian European tally of, oh, lets say 100 million (16 million in WW I, 60 million in WW II– though some of those were attributable to Buddhists in Asia– and millions more in colonial wars.)
It takes a peculiar sort of blindness to see Christians of European heritage as “nice” and Muslims and inherently violent, given the twentieth century death toll I mentioned above
LOL , to you data is cut and paste a couple of mugshots and then claim that 99% of terrorism comes from muslims. Such is not data ...... if you know the meaning of data. Hmm , such 'data' can only come from our resident hater in Goh Mas Lan or 'wkk5159-maslan'.
Ha ha , you are really desperate .... aren't you? Appears that you scouring the internet for the past few days yielded no results in you trying to refute me.
LOL , this takes the cake in you trying to lie your way thru
Apa daa! The Thai police suspect the bombing to be the work of the Uighur muslims. The key word here is suspect - somehow or rather it seems that you are trying to imply that it the muslims. Observe folks - the mentality of our resident hater in Goh Mas Lan or 'wkk5159' who claim to be a true professional and an expert in his own field.
BTW , the guy (wearing the yellow T shirt) in your linked article and reports of him being the so called bomber is an Australian by the name of Sunny Burns
Huh? What issit again? You claim to be a true profesional and an expert in your field ....
"The more I watch debates where muslims participate, the more I inevitably come to the conclusion that Islam is the ideal place for agressive psychopaths, sadists and pathetic masochists (like this Paul-whats-his-name creature). Look at their behaviour. This Raza is unable to utter 2 words in a normal, balanced way. He belongs to a mental institution. The fact that he's holding some prominent position says loads about how mindless our society has become." Nina V
"Islam is a fascist, fear mongering double standard piece of crap. Dont conflict with other people sustainability, individuality or freedom then you wont have issues." Diego Diez
LOL , I will reply to your 3 threads together as all 3 contain the same crap.
The question I have been asking you - where is your data? Listing discrete happenings and then claim it to be data is just BS.
I reproduced again the data from Prof Juan Cole , per my post #110
The commentary to the above data as per my post #115.
Oops , do you actually know what is data? Hmmm , a self proclaim true professional and an expert in his field , should know what is data. Over 30 odd posts from you , yet you don't evenknow what is data. Susah lo ....
Oops don't tell me .... your data and its analysis comes from the 'son of Hamas' .... ha ha
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