Early Whodunit:The Great Sherlock Holmes

sixret · Post time 4-12-2007 02:54 PM

Saya pasti korang mesti pernah dengar nama Sherlock Holmes.
Tidak dinafikan Sherlock Holmes lebih popular drpd pencipta watak ini iaitu Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.Bawah ni gambar Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.

credit to sherlockholmesonline.org

Terdapat 4 novel Sherlock Holmes dan 5 novel antologi cerita pendek Sherlock Holmes.
Sherlock Holmes lebih popular kerana cerita pendek tentang penyiasatan beliau ditemani Dr. Watson sebagai narator dalam semua kes-kes yang disiasat oleh Sherlock Holmes.

Sedikit biografi ttg penulis ini drpd wikipedia
Sir Arthur Ignatius Conan Doyle (May 22, 1859

idx · Post time 4-12-2007 03:31 PM

Ini citer feveret aku...:pompom:

nafizzz · Post time 4-12-2007 03:58 PM

Originally posted by sixret at 4-12-2007 02:54 PM
Saya pasti korang mesti pernah dengar nama Sherlock Holmes.
Tidak dinafikan Sherlock Holmes lebih popular drpd pencipta watak ini iaitu Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.Bawah ni gambar Sir Arthur Conan Do ...

SIxret, saya juga minat sama ini Sherlock. Bestkan ceritanya.. Saya menang bid on ebay " The complete illustrated short stories" dengan harga murah je. Illustrations dalam buku ini adalah illustrations asal yang dipetik dari Strand Magazines di mana cerita ni mula-mula di terbit antara th 1891-1927.

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sixret · Post time 4-12-2007 05:27 PM

mesti mahalkan nafizz...

saya tahu majalah strand ialah majalah misteri for short stories.byk famous GA writers contributed their stories for that mag.

kalau compilation books of sherlock (dgn ori illustration)-mmg amat mahal dan mesti ramai yg bid kan..

saya ada 100 world best detective stories compilation taken from strand mag(without illustration)-ada dlm 10 buah red hardbinder.saya buy now kat ebay.tu murah je.

nafizzz · Post time 4-12-2007 08:22 PM

Originally posted by sixret at 4-12-2007 05:27 PM
mesti mahalkan nafizz...

saya tahu majalah strand ialah majalah misteri for short stories.byk famous GA writers contributed their stories for that mag.

ka ...

Best nya! 10 buah hard binder? Berapa you bid on them? My Sherlock tu hardcover tapi murah je about RM 30 I think.. Tak sangka dapat murah. you nak tak ebook tentang Sherlock Holmes short stories. Boleh baca dalam handphone. Tapi tak sama dengan baca buku kan?

sixret · Post time 4-12-2007 10:46 PM

kurang drpd RM100.tak ingat the exact amount

saya dah de buku Sherlock Holmes.tq anyway

juwaini · Post time 5-12-2007 12:26 AM

alfred hitchcock (sp?), i believed is the forefather and pioneer in whodunit genre--
sir arthur conan doyle is more into investigation genre--
correcting me if i'm wrong--

juw-

sixret · Post time 5-12-2007 12:58 PM

Well I don't know where you get your info but the fact is Edgar Allan Poe(1809-1849) IS,notice that I'm using present tense coz though he's dead he remains(present) the father of MYSTERY.

Now,mystery is very general term.Mystery is the SUBJECT not a genre.

Whodunit is the THEME.Inverted mystery(where the murderer is known beforehand,the writers stress on whydunit) also a theme.

Genre under Mystery(not necessarily using whodunit theme):

1)police procedural-
2)thriller-so many writers write this genre
3)suspense-so many writers nowadays write under this genre it becomes cliche
4)gothic mystery-
5)hardboiled
6)private investigation(PI)-Sue Grafton,Marcia Muller
7)cozy mystery
8)the new one evolving from cozy mystery is chic-lit mystery

People always get confused with whodunit,even I sometimes do but the fact is that whodunit is a theme but that does not necessarily mean every mystery books IS whodunit.

the father of whodunit in GOLDEN AGE ERA(roughly between 1920-1960) IS E.C Bentley after he had written the much acclaimed novel "Trent's Last Case)

But the big 4 women mystery writers i.e Agatha Christie,Dorothy L.Sayers,Margery Alligham and Ngaio marsh are well known now.The best plotter of Golden Age Mystery whodunit are Agatha Christie,John Dickson Carr and Ellery Queen.

Alfred Hitchcock??? He was into suspense film not novel though during his life, he acted as editor to short mysteries anthology.

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pojisan · Post time 21-6-2008 03:13 PM

suka dengan Sherlock Holmes ngan Dr Watson

raeshad · Post time 24-6-2008 01:01 AM

i remembered loving to read Sherlock Holmes [and watching too], when i was a kid to my teen years.

One thing that i kinda hate though is when Conan Doyle revived Holmes due to pressure from the public as they want to read more of Holmes, when Arthur killed him when the character was very very popular.

Some similar situation can be compared with Agatha Christie's Poirot [pronounced Pwaro]. Agatha was bored with her character, and even in later revelation - hating the character herself. [this might be what Arthur was experiencing], but rather than killing Poirot suddenly, she focuses more on her other character - Miss Marple. So, eventually, ppl starts to shift to Miss Marple, and then killing the character[Poirot] later. [personally I love Miss Marple more than Poirot].

I don't think I've read all his works, but I love Hound of Baskervilles, and to be honest, I sometimes love Dr Watson's character more than Holmes himself.

[yes, sue me

]

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sixret · Post time 26-6-2008 08:53 PM

Well, you certainly know about the history of Sherlock Holmes.

And my personal favourite is definitely Hercule Poirot,the old eccentric genius sleuth. Long live Hercule Poirot

You are most welcome to post you opinion on this favourite topic of mine.Do you have any other favourite?

mongoose_kidz · Post time 2-4-2009 11:08 PM

aku x pndai sgt bacer dlm bi...
nasib baik kat umah ader buku yg terjemah nyer..
tau la jugak citer sign of four,pertubuhan rambut merah ,skandal bohemian tu..

tp baru2 ni sykt pts kot ader kuar blk buku sherlock holmes ni..
nipis jer buku dier n x mahal la...
yg penting dlm bahasa melayu.

agatha christie pun aku bacer yg melayu ngan indon nyer..

crystal_grey · Post time 3-4-2009 07:09 PM

minat sgt kat sherlock holmes tapi kan tak banyak dapt baca buku dia... yang ada pun sikit jer..minat gila kat buku-buku yang jenis cam ni ...

zimmy_fan · Post time 4-4-2009 05:24 PM

mmg best la:victory:. hari tu baru beli kt borders tp x abis2 lagi.

aiharanaoki · Post time 15-4-2009 11:22 PM

i still remember these 2 characters, poirot and sherlock holmes when i was a kid. knew em from tv, while accessing to books was very limited in where i lived. so this topic kinda revives my childhood memories, and im thinking to look for em soon.