Honda Stream vs Toyota Wish - Tlg bagi pendapat korang

hereana

salam,

Dalam masa terdekat ni, kami bcadang utk menukar kereta kitaorg kpd MPV..
buat masa ni kereta yg kami guna adalah honda civic 1.7 (tahun 2005)
so, mmg berminat utk menukar samada honda stream ataupun wish..yg baru..
mintak tlg pd sesapa yg ada pengalaman mgunakan kenderaan ni..
tlg berikan pro & cons...

buat makluman kekwn, kete ni bukan shj utk kegunaan family biasa2 jer..
tapi jugak utk kenderaan official bisnes kitaorg gak..so,mmg nak mpv yg jenis 'petite' sket lah..
tak ler nampak 'family car' sgt..he..he..
kitaorg akan gunakan kete yg sama utk attend client..bwk gi site..nengok hse development..

pengalaman guna honda civic tu..tersgtlh panas kat seat belakang..air cond tumpu kt center jer..
kt belakang..panassss....so stream mcm mana..? dah ler 3 rows tuh..
please yer..pd sesapa yg nak rekomen MPV lelain pun..ok...

thanks in advance ye....

Fast-N-Furious

status.... memang best pakai stream atau pong wish.. haku sendrik pong kena cop urang kaya sejak pakai stream nieh..

kalau aircond menjadi hal, dua-dua tak sesuwai, sebab stream dan wish, aircond kat depan gak. utk stream contohnyer, centre aircond punya lubang tu jenis takbley adjust, dikhaskan utk angin tu pergi ker 2nd row dan row belakang. tapi angin dier agak power, kalau duduk di 3rd row tu, rambut bleh goyang gak lar kalau bukak full blast kipas dier..

MPV yg ader aircond yg ader utk penumpang belakang
1. Avanza
2. Estima
3. Alphard
4. Exora

yg lain tak pasti, tak pernah naik lagik..

hereana

Reply 2# Fast-N-Furious


    thanks fr yr reply..
tulah..aku kalu boleh tak mu membazir2..lg pun tak cukup modal..pun ye tak..
nak carik kete jenis boleh wat utk bisnes & family skali....
so..kalu utk bisnes..surelah utk impress pchaser/client..
mmg lah,kalu utk corporate deals..elok pakai honda accord, camry ker...bmw ker..he..he..
tp kena carik kete lain plak utk family..hu..hu...
aku anak 3, bibik lagi..pastu aku jenis suka membawa mak pak sekali..
so, tulah nak carik mpv terus..

so..oklah kan..stream nih..sbb hubi mmg prefer stream..tp tak kisah pun kalu aku lebih suka wish...
cuma..apa kelebihannya...

Fast-N-Furious

Reply  Fast-N-Furious


    thanks fr yr reply..
tulah..aku kalu boleh tak mu membazir2..lg pun ...
hereana Post at 13-10-2010 15:31

    Kalau jumpa client guna stream, haku rasa ok.. haku pong jumpa dato dato guna stream jer.. parking kat hotel pong, guna valet parking pong tara hal, orang tak look down punya..

kelebihan..?? compare to what?? wish ker??

hereana

Reply 4# Fast-N-Furious


    haah...toyota wish cam ner plak..?
ada apa2 info...? knapa pilih antaranya..?
sbb design,capacity,fuel usage..?

Fast-N-Furious

Reply  Fast-N-Furious


    haah...toyota wish cam ner plak..?
ada apa2 info...? knapa pilih an ...
hereana Post at 13-10-2010 16:00

personally, haku pilih stream sebab..

1. stream brand new, wish recond, toyota tak bawak masuk baru. kalau ader pong, kena through AP. tak tau ler kenapa..
2. stream lebih sporty dari wish.
3. haku lebih suka interior stream
4. nanti haku fikir erkk...

danedzya

Kalo nak bawak client dan makpak semua amik Grandis laaa.....

thestig

stream rsz or nissan serena

al-asil

Reply 1# hereana

berdasarkan kriteria yang tt bagi ni, aku percaya bajet dia tak kurang dari 150k, nak beli yang baru dan bergaya serta mpv yang tak besar sangat.

selain dari wish dan stream, pada aku mazda5 dan chevrolet captiva pon ok gak. dua2 ni pon 7 seater dan tak besar sangat.

tapi tu pon kalau tt berani la

hereana

Reply 6# Fast-N-Furious


tulah kan..kene fikir skali advantage kalu kita trade in honda to honda gak kan..
boleh dpt rebate..price trade in pung lagi tinggi kot..

btw, sori lah susahkn korang2..hubi aku suruh aku tanya2,survey2..dgn geng2 forum..
dia tak smpat..he..he..tp dia tak kisah sgt,asalkn under bajet lagik..
mmg hubi pun ada tanya2 kekwn dia..tp tak da yg mmg guna stream, wish..
mpv lain ok..cuma cam 'gedabak' sket.. ..nak ler yg ranggi sket..he..he..

hereana

Reply 9# al-asil


  he..he..betullah tuh..tp nak wat camner..
bak org kata..ada rupa..ada harga..he..he..

tp, satu pangai hubi..kalu tak cukup bajet..dia tak kan grab apa2..
dah lebih 3 thn,aku mtk tukar ke mpv..hubi bolayan...
tup2..this year..Alhamdulillah bisnes ok sket..tu yg dia consider..
tapiiii...mesti baru...tu mmg sikap dia..tak mampu lg..jgn beli...!!
prinsip masing2 kan..sbb dia malas nak hangky-pangky..baru beli sebulan..tu nak tukar..ni nak tukar..
dah ler saving..bdekit2..jimat2 habis..he..he..

mazda5 dan chevrolet captiva pon ok gak...
tapi tu pon kalau tt berani la..

napa..? mahal ker..ada pic..

hereana

Reply 9# al-asil


    al asil..aku dah check kt google...
mmg menarik lah..hu...hu..
alamak rambang mata plak aku nih...

tp info psal chevrolet captiva tu tak byk sgt...

btw..ni aku share discussion kt tenet yer..
mazda5 vs honda stream

- Mazda 5 lacks stability and traction control (ESC/DSC) that are required to ensure safety on wet and slippery road. Mazda 5 also depreciates its value very fast, besides its spare parts are difficult to get.
Lyn says: December 13, 2008 at 8:23 am

- Honda Stream lacks sliding doors and other functionalities that Mazda 5 posses. The air conditioner was not designed as good as Mazda 5’s.
lee says: December 13, 2008 at 9:33 am

- emm mmg spec mazda5 lagi best dari stream.. tapi await stream nie mahal sgt.. aper2 pon aku mmg minat ngan stream design and engine. dah lama kenan : )
- Wish is much worse. Kat mane2 boleh nampak. Neighbours ada Wish, tapi Stream tak nampak pulak setakat ni. Kalau boleh banding tiga2 ni dari spek dia pun baguih jugak. Mazda5 ada sunroof. Stream tak nampak pulak dari gambar ni.
KELV86 says: February 14, 2009 at 12:54 pm

- MAZDA 5 IS THE BEST.. IF U TEST DRIVE ALREADY U SURE LIKE THE CAR…BELIEVE ME…GO N TEST THE CAR…
pndapat akoo…honda stream ni cam awex yg cun laa….tp ati kureng baik sket….jgn terase lak gurls2 kt cni….mazda 5 nih tak brape cun tapi manis la….but hati byk baek and easy going hehehehe….
- stream ni nampak cantik tapi quality terok…i duduk dalam kereta tu tak selesa lepas tu dia punyak dashboard semua dapat feel plastik…tak bagus macam ni…tak ada continental feel..
nuar.shkej@m says: February 17, 2009 at 2:47 pm

- Saya suka stream kerana itu saya beli stream ats beberapa sebab
1.Minyak kalau utk perjalanan jauh 7.9L/100km Jimatkan..
2.Air cond memang sejuk keseluruhan kabin bukan hanya utk depan dan tengah saja kalau wish belakang hangatla.
3.Cara pemanduan macam kereta biasa stabil.
4.Pick up mmg bagus ada overdrive.gear 3 boleh cecah 160Kmj dan gear 4 200kmj.
5.Mcpherson strut utk depan dan reactive double wishbone mmg bagus biasanya kereta yg bagus punyai suspension yg bagus kerana kereta sport atau mewah macam Merz akan guna suspension jenis ini.bukan jenis yg mmg kurang bagus macam torsion beam axle,leaf spring with axle atau multilink axle,terutama utk belakang untk menentukan keselesaan dan kestabilan terutama apabila mengambil selekoh.stream adalah jawapanya.
6.Design mmg cantik,lebeh rendah kereta itu lebeh stabillah ia dan MPV paling rendah adalah Honda stream bukan toyota wish,mazda 5.
7.Pemanduan lebuh raya 3001 rpm stream sudah mencecah 160kmj,kerana gear ratio.teorinya lebeh rendah rpm lebeh jimatlah pengunaan minyak.
8.Injin Vtec yg mmg terkenal dimana honda telah meniru injin alfa romeo dan memajukankan lagi.enjin pesaing jepun yg lain mcm toyota baru sahaja memperkenalkan injin Vvti,Mitsubishi Mivec.mereka hanya baru sahaja mencapai peringkat awal vtec diperkenalkan,dan sekarang ini injin stream berinjin Vtec 2 stage.manakala utk injin 20lk 3 stage vtec.
# Norman says:May 4, 2009 at 1:18 pm

- Modern Honda terkenal ngan jimat minyak.Nampak mcm jinak je stream ni tapi kalau dah mengaum boleh sebelah2 ngan Mazda 5 tu.Tapi Mazda tak kurang hebatnye cuma pick up ade kureng sikit,Minyak pun boleh tahan mcm Subaru jugak
Imran says: May 4, 2009 at 4:01 pm

- I’ve been driving my F/L Mazda 5 2008 for almost 1 year already, and Guys, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE AND PLEASE DONT BUY MAZDA 5!!
……Otherwise mine doesnt look unique anymore! hehe…………..

Btw, there are a lots ‘Kiasu’s out there who really care about me as they keep on asking and telling me why i didnt get H & T brand as these brands offer better FC and 2nd hand value…but for me, I dont give a damn, as i’m the one who going to drive the car……as a driver, we have to know what we want…if you plan to get a car and sell within 3 years, then no doubt, u have to get a Stream (btw, 2006 Mazda 5 market value still around RM100k-110k, not bad kan?)…if handling and driving satisfaction become your priority, then Mazda 5 is the one…dont just listen to people esp those blindly hentam other brands, without experience it himself…go and test drive both models…test drive kow-kow as the car is meant for TEST drive….feel yourself..come back and cerita!

just to share some facts based on my experience of 1 year driving my Mazda 5,
~ FC:- city: 8km/ltr; Highway: 12km/ltr;
~ Service Cost:- Avg of RM300++ per service, i.e. service interval 10,000 km using SHELL Helix fully synthetic.
~ top speed:- PLUS Highway: 190km/hr; Cornering: 130-140km/hr. (My car still stocks!)
# aku la says: May 19, 2009 at 9:48 pm

- dua2 stream dan mazda tu memang power…cuba bincang pasal maintenance dengan spare parts…yang mana mudah diperolehi dan murah? aku sure stream lebih ok berbanding mazda…betul ke?
#mid says:June 4, 2009 at 1:03 pm

- Plain simple explanation bros…

Let’s say if A is a die-hard fan & sleep, eat, drink about a certain Japs car brand, the verdict is even the best car in the world from Europe is not good enuf & considered looser for A. In another word A lets the majority decides for him & in a comfortable group called followers.

But if B is a person who wants to think different from the majority, & tested every single car in the same class category… and then he decides, he is in a unique group called pioneers & leaders..

I think IMHO to be not bias, if u have the budget & wanted to buy a passenger car in a Mini MPV category, please test drive all makes that produces vehicle in that category…please DO test drive each & every single one of them.

Stream is actually a wagon from the Civic model line-up, while Mazda5 came from the Mazda3 floor-plant but was built as a Mini van. Both cars has standard road clearances but with different height on pillars & roof. Many of us tend to labeled “the higher the roof, the more unstable the car at cornering”… which is entirely false & a mere blind assumptions. 90% stability came from a very2 good suspension system…if not how can a very high 4WD pick-up can corner more robust than a normal low car without even capsized?

Handling wise off course the standard suspensions system were installed for normal street purpose only & a bit lack in performances like the tuned version.
# johann says: July 8, 2010 at 4:09 pm

Fast-N-Furious

my stream, installed with lowering spring, much more lowered.. the look memang ganas...

danedzya

hati kalo dah berat nak ke Stream,dok racun camna pon gerenti tak jalan punya...

im_cyclist

Reply 1# hereana


go for stream!

gergasi

Bagi aku yg dah pakai wish ni..aku rasa tak menyesal sgh beli sbb dulu aku prefer stream tapi dik sebab mem nak wish aku pun turut tapi mmg berbaloi sbb driving,cornering,designing dan bermacam2 ning lagi memamg mantoppppppppppp..yg paling nampak berbaloi adalah tang saving patrol dia,klu dr kl ke png lebih kurang rm 55i nggit je tu pun pakai ron97 tau..

cuma slack 1 je tang aircond dia..org depan dah sejuk mengila tapi org belakang baru nak rasa angin..

Klu berkenan ngan Wish aku syorkan ambil Wish model baru,aircond dia pun dah rectified

Fast-N-Furious

bermatian-matian mamat tu mempertahankan mazda 5 dier..

mazda 5 huduh lar... tak hensem..  tak sporty langsung  

Filippo

btol ckp gergasi...
minyak wish model lama mmg jimat..
tang 2nd row mmg panas sbb xde aircond..jalan jauh mmg hazab
yg new model ni aku x penah naik lg..

so aku choice stream kot..hehehhe

memberKawanKau

Kalo nak bawak client dan makpak semua amik Grandis laaa.....
danedzya Post at 13-10-2010 18:36

kami pon dalam pencarian MPV.. so listnye Stream,wish,grandish. ofcoz grandish ongkoz bulan2 n minyak lebih sket.bini prefer wish.. aku prefer grandish. nak bwk mak pak gie jalan2 agak lebih power (2.4 tuh). grandish ade ekon seat blakang. 2-3 minggu tgh bertengkar ngan bini sbb tak sama pendapat. last2 dia menang sbb keta tuh dia yg nak pakai. hahahaha. ade rezeki taun depan baru nak beli kalau takde aral melintang.

so menjawab persoalannyer... wish la aku prefer dari stream.. sbbnyer? sbb bini aku kata besh....

hereana

my stream, installed with lowering spring, much more lowered.. the look memang ganas...
Fast-N-Furious Post at 14-10-2010 11:23

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