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Post time 2-5-2017 01:37 AM | Show all posts |Read mode
Edited by Lobai_Naik at 2-5-2017 08:25 AM

Umat Islam bersorak sakan mendengar perbandingan agama si Zakir Naik....

kalau aku buat perbandingan agama Islam, dgn agama lain boleh?  



adakah kamu semua akan mengelupur cam umat hindu?  


Amalan Agama Majusi aka Zoroastrian:

1. Mempercayai hanya 1 tohan
2. Shalat 5 kali sehari
Fajar - Havaan
Tengahari - Rapithwan
Petang - Uziren
Senja- Aiwisuthrem
Malam- Ushaen
3. Menyucikan muka dan anggota badan sebanyak 3 kali sebelum shalat
4. Doa semasa shalat secara nyanyian syair / puisi dlm bahasa avesta
5. Memakai tutup kepala utk lelaki dan perempuan
6. Nabi mereka juga pernah terbang ke syurga pd suatu waktu malam
7. Pohon pokok di syurga diberi nama 'humaya'
8. Hukuman mati utk golongan homoseksual
9. Pantang semasa berhadas/menses & 40 hari selepas bersalin
10. Memuliakan aktiviti berkuda & memanah
11. Kesederhanaan dalam makan, minum & aktiviti duniawi
12. Menggunakan kekayaan utk kebaikan penganutnya
13. Tuhannnya membenci org yg murtad & berzina


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 Author| Post time 2-5-2017 01:38 AM | Show all posts
OPINION : SHAFIQAH OTHMAN HAMZAH
The hypocrisy of Malay Muslims
Published: April 16, 2016 07:29 AM GMT+8



APRIL 16 ― Zakir Naik is a world-renowned Islamic scholar. Love him or hate him, you cannot deny that his name has travelled across continents and countries.

He’s also an extremely controversial figure. Known to many as an authority in comparative religion, while to some others, as a charlatan who holds no regard for people of other faith.

This Sunday, April 17, Zakir Naik was scheduled to have a talk at UTeM titled “Similarities between Hinduism and Islam.” However, the talk got cancelled after it raised uneasiness within the Hindu community. Sensitivities were touched and eventually, IGP Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar released a statement regarding its cancellation.

Immediately after, there was an uproar in the Malay Muslim community. People started talking about how this was an infringement of freedom of speech, and that Hindus were probably just afraid that their adherents would convert en masse during the talk.

People started talking as though Zakir Naik was denied entry into the country, like how he is barred from UK and Canada. They started talking as though all his talks were cancelled when that was just one out of the many other events he has here. The rest of his talks are carried out as per normal.

Zakir Naik released a statement about how he was upset that such a small matter was blown out of proportion to the extent that Malay Muslims were fighting amongst themselves. He said that some Muslims even had the audacity to call another Muslim “kafir” just because of different opinions.

However, amidst the hustle and bustle of the controversy, I cannot help but feel appalled; not by Zakir Naik, but by the hypocrisy of Malay Muslims. The Malay Muslim community of Malaysia has such jarring double standards, and it’s even more obvious now than ever.

The Malay Muslims who get upset when people talk bad about Islam or when Muslims present a version of Islam that is unfamiliar to them are the same Malay Muslims who shout “It’s freedom of speech!” when Muslims belittle other religions or when an Islamic scholar says something that is potentially inflammatory but is parallel to their beliefs.

But where were you when Dr Ulil Abshar Abdalla was denied entry into Malaysia in 2014 for supposedly being a deviant? Zakir Naik is notorious for his support of al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden while Ulil was denied entry to “defend Malaysia’s brand of Islam” despite wanting to speak against terrorism. What does this say about our brand of Islam then?

The Malay Muslims who say that freedom of religion is mutually exclusive from Islam, disallowing the propagation or profession of other faiths while discriminating against converts from Islam or apostates, are the same Malay Muslims who use that term to justify the propagation of Islam, to fight back cases of Islamophobia, to encourage adherents of other religions to join Islam and to defend converts into Islam who are attacked by their family or friends.

But where were you when Lina Joy wanted to get her religion changed legally? Where is your outrage regarding the Raif Badawi case? Did you try to defend Juli Jalaluddin when she was deported out of Malaysia?

The Malay Muslims who are against pluralism and expect religious minorities to respect the needs and wants of the Muslim majority are the same Malay Muslims who would be appalled at the news of abuse or killings of Muslim minorities in foreign countries, saying, “We should respect other religions! We have to learn to live in peace and harmony!”

But where were you when protests were held against the construction of a Hindu temple? Or when Molotov cocktails were thrown at a church? Where were you when a church was forced to take down their cross?

The Malay Muslims who rallied behind Zakir Naik’s statement against excommunications of other Muslims are the same Malay Muslims who so very easily label others “kafir” for unorthodox opinions.

But where were you when progressive Muslims get told to leave Islam because of their opinions? Where were you when organisations like Sisters In Islam are labelled “deviant” and accused of infidelity? Did you try to stop any acts of takfir (excommunication of another Muslim) when you see it happen? Or did you jump on the bandwagon because the thoughts of these unorthodox Muslims didn’t mirror yours?

Obviously, I know that not all Malay Muslims think like this. But a huge group of us do and it can be seen everywhere. These Malay Muslims that I am talking about only support certain values when it benefits them, or wherever it is convenient for them. They don’t apply these values across the spectrum and immediately take back these “privileges” when someone does not share the same thoughts and opinions as they do.

Their “freedom of speech” means “freedom of speech only for my group.” Their “freedom of religion” means “freedom to only practise Islam.” Their disagreement on takfir means “as long as you think like me, you’re still a Muslim.”

If you don’t agree with the limitation of Zakir Naik’s freedom of speech, you shouldn’t agree with the limitation of other Muslims’ freedom of speech. If you don’t agree with the belittling of Islam, you shouldn’t agree with the belittling of other religions. If you don’t agree with the excommunication of Zakir Naik, you should not agree with the excommunication of other Muslims.

The problem now is not with Zakir Naik, but with the hypocrisy of our Malay Muslims. Like what is written in the Qur’an, “Do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just.” Thinking back, have we really been just to the rest of Malaysians? I wonder.

- See more at: http://m.themalaymailonline.com/opinion/shafiqah-othman-hamzah/article/the-hypocrisy-of-malay-muslims#sthash.BdXnBMRd.dpuf
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Post time 2-5-2017 03:34 PM | Show all posts
Lobai_Naik replied at 2-5-2017 01:38 AM
OPINION : SHAFIQAH OTHMAN HAMZAH
The hypocrisy of Malay Muslims
Published: April 16, 2016 07:29 AM ...

kamu kata perbandingan agama kan
dan bukannya perbandingan kaum2 atau bangsa2 yg beragama

tak sesuai sebenarnya berkata -perbandingan agama
dan lebih baik - fahami dan hayati agama2 itu sendiri

dan tak perlulah sembang pasal kaum/bangsa - memang tak leh pakai sikit pun kan
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Post time 2-5-2017 09:08 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Lobai_Naik replied at 2-5-2017 01:37 AM
Umat Islam bersorak sakan mendengar perbandingan agama si Zakir Naik....

kalau aku buat ...

Carilah AGAMA kamu yang ASAL.....
Si Islam...ISLAM yang ASAL
Si Kristian...KRISTIAN yang ASAL
Si Buddha.. BUDDHA yang ASAL
Si Hindu... HINDU yang ASAL
Si Yahudi... YAHUDI yang ASAL
Si Zoroastrian....AGAMANYA yang ASAL
Apakah tujuan AGAMA dibangunkan?
.....supaya apabila kamu SUSAH,SAKIT serta apabila HENDAK MATI..ada TEMPAT untuk kamu bergantung dan berharap.

MENGAPA MESTI KAMU BANDING-BANDINGKAN AGAMA?
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Post time 3-5-2017 03:41 AM | Show all posts
kucing_2016 replied at 2-5-2017 09:08 PM
Carilah AGAMA kamu yang ASAL.....
Si Islam...ISLAM yang ASAL
Si Kristian...KRISTIAN yang ASAL

bayi yg lahir tidak ada agama   
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Post time 3-5-2017 09:13 PM | Show all posts
Lobai_Majusi replied at 3-5-2017 03:41 AM
bayi yg lahir tidak ada agama

kamu masih bayi lagi ke
kan dah matang dan akal boleh digunakan utk bezakan yang Benar dan yg Salah
maka jangan salahkan org lain

berfikiran terbuka dan cari yang lebih baik

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Post time 5-5-2017 08:52 AM | Show all posts
orangbesi replied at 3-5-2017 09:13 PM
kamu masih bayi lagi ke
kan dah matang dan akal boleh digunakan utk bezakan yang Benar dan yg S ...

aku sudah tidak mempercayai santa klaus   
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Post time 5-5-2017 11:31 PM | Show all posts
Lobai_Astaga replied at 5-5-2017 08:52 AM
aku sudah tidak mempercayai santa klaus

....jadi kamu nak percaya pada siapa???
pada diri kamu sendiri???
adakah diri kamu boleh sebarkan kebaikan/kasih sayang/keamanan pada makhluk2 yg lain????

atau
adakah kamu kenal diri kamu sendiri???
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Post time 6-5-2017 09:26 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Lobai_Majusi replied at 3-5-2017 03:41 AM
bayi yg lahir tidak ada agama

TEPAT
.......MANUSIA YANG BELUM SEMPURNA AKALNYA ATAU YANG TELAH ROSAK AKALNYA....TIDAK ADA ISTILAH AGAMA BAGI DIRINYA.
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Post time 7-5-2017 12:28 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Hai acong babi. Jeng rindu aku tk jeng? Ku pikir ko dh mampos celaka

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Post time 10-5-2017 02:06 AM | Show all posts
HeadBana7 replied at 7-5-2017 12:28 PM
Hai acong babi. Jeng rindu aku tk jeng? Ku pikir ko dh mampos celaka

Innalillahi wa innailahi rojiun   



semakin ramai dah join nak jadi penghuni neraka... anda bila?  

https://www.facebook.com/groups/warong.atheist/

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Post time 10-5-2017 08:24 PM | Show all posts
SEBAIK-BAIK KAMU ADALAH YANG PALING BAIK AKHLAKNYA.........

KALAM TUHAN
SESUNGGUHNYA KAMU DIJADIKAN UMAT TERBAIK
YANG MENGANJURKAN AMAR MAKRUF NAHI MUNGKAR
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Post time 6-8-2017 11:05 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Berani ke paderi Kristian berdepan ulama Islam?
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Post time 8-8-2017 02:28 AM | Show all posts
cmf_BeachBoys replied at 6-8-2017 03:05 PM
Berani ke paderi Kristian berdepan ulama Islam?

ulama atau ularmak?  


kt forum nie dah ramai yg mengelupur dok ban aku ke hulu hilir   


agama suci tercabar kaa?  
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Post time 8-8-2017 02:35 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Abah+Kau.Mulhid replied at 8-8-2017 02:28 AM
ulama atau ularmak?  



Sebab kau terlalu bodoh untuk berdiskusi dengan orang lain.sebab tu kau kena ban.setakat macam kau ni,xde sape pun yang goyang.
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Post time 8-8-2017 02:44 AM | Show all posts
cmf_BeachBoys replied at 7-8-2017 06:35 PM
Sebab kau terlalu bodoh untuk berdiskusi dengan orang lain.sebab tu kau kena ban.setakat macam kau ...

aku atau kau yg bodoh? bahkan aku dah tunjukkan bukti tohan kamu telah memperdayakan kamu   
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Post time 8-8-2017 02:50 AM | Show all posts
@cmf_BeachBoys   


kalau aku yg bodoh, tak perlu laa sorok thread aku...... biar saja masyarakat tengok kebodohan aku   
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Post time 8-8-2017 01:11 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Abah+Kau.Mulhid replied at 8-8-2017 02:50 AM
@cmf_BeachBoys   



Bagitau Kat aku buat apa.pegilah bgtau kat moderator,bengong
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Post time 9-8-2017 04:05 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Abah+Kau.Mulhid replied at 8-8-2017 02:44 AM
aku atau kau yg bodoh? bahkan aku dah tunjukkan bukti tohan kamu telah memperdayakan kamu   :laugh ...

Bukti apa?
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