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[MISTERI]case of Elisa Lam

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Post time 30-10-2013 01:32 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Momod kalau dah ada tolong merge kan eh. Ke nak masukkan under hantu hotel ke apa.

Aku bukak FB and terbaca cerita ni. Aku tak pandai tempek video and gambar. so aku tempek cerita dia jela.

There are mysteries that are so eerie and strange that they boggle the mind for days on end. The case of Elisa Lam is one of them. In February 2013, this 21-year-old student from Vancouver, Canada, was found dead inside the Cecil Hotel’s rooftop water tank in Los Angeles. The L.A. County Department of Coroner ruled the death “accidental due to drowning” and said no traces of drugs or alcohol were found during the autopsy. However, there is much more to the story than what is implied by police reports. The first piece of evidence that needs to be considered is an elevator surveillance tape that recorded Elisa’s behavior only a few moments before she lost her life.
The four-minute video posted on YouTube shows Elisa pressing all of the elevator buttons and waiting for it to move. Seeing that the elevator doors are not closing, starts behaving extremely bizarrely. Here’s the video.

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There are mysteries that are so eerie and strange that they boggle the mind for days on end. The case of Elisa Lam is one of them. In February 2013, this 21-year-old student from Vancouver, Canada, was found dead inside the Cecil Hotel’s rooftop water tank in Los Angeles. The L.A. County Department of Coroner ruled the death “accidental due to drowning” and said no traces of drugs or alcohol were found during the autopsy. However, there is much more to the story than what is implied by police reports. The first piece of evidence that needs to be considered is an elevator surveillance tape that recorded Elisa’s behavior only a few moments before she lost her life.
The four-minute video posted on YouTube shows Elisa pressing all of the elevator buttons and waiting for it to move. Seeing that the elevator doors are not closing, starts behaving extremely bizarrely. Here’s the video.
At first, Elisa enters the elevator and apparently presses all of its buttons. She then waits for something to happen but, for some reason, the elevator door doesn’t shut. She starts to look around, as if she is expecting (or hiding from) someone. At 1:57, her arms and hands start moving in a very strange matter (almost not human) as she appears to be talking to someone, something … or nothing at all. She then walks away. The elevator door then shuts and appears to start working again.

Right after the events of the video, Elisa apparently gained access to the rooftop of the hotel, climbed to its water tank and, somehow, ended up drowning in it. Her body was found two weeks after her death, after hotel guests complained about the water’s taste and color. Incredible.
Seeing the surveillance footage, most people would conclude that she was under the influence of drugs. However, Elisa did not have a history of drug use and her autopsy concluded that no drugs were involved. When one looks at the context and the circumstances of this death, things become even more mysterious.
Cecil Hotel’s Dark History
Built in the 1920s to cater to “businessmen to come into town and spend a night or two”, Cecil Hotel was quickly upstaged by more glamorous hotels. Located near the infamous Skid Row area, the hotel began renting rooms on a long-term basis for cheap prices, a policy that attracted a shiftier crowd. The hotel’s reputation quickly went from “shifty” to “morbid” when it became notorious for numerous suicides and murders, as well as lodging famous serial killers.
“Part of its sordid history, involves two serial killers,  Richard Ramirez and Jack Unterweger.
Now on death row, Ramirez, labeled “the Nightstalker”, was living at the Cecil Hotel in 1985, in a top floor room.  He was charged 14 dollars a night.  In a building filled with transients, he remained unnoticed as he stalked and killed his 13 female victims. Richard Schave, said “He was dumping his bloody clothes in the Dumpster, at the end of his evening and returned via the back entrance.”
Jack Unterweger, was a journalist covering crime in Los Angeles for an Austrian magazine in 1991.  “We believe he was living at the Cecil Hotel in homage to Ramirez,” Schave said.
He is blamed with killing three prostitutes in Los Angeles, while being a guest at the Cecil.
In the 50’s and 60’s the Cecil was known as a place that people would go to jump out of one of the hotel’s windows to commit suicide.
Helen Gurnee, in her 50s, leaped from a seventh floor window, landing on the Cecil Hotel marquee, on October 22, 1954.
Julia Moore jumped from her eighth floor room window, on February 11, 1962.
Pauline Otton, 27, jumped from a ninth floor window after an argument with her estranged husband, on October 12, 1962.  Otton landed on George Gianinni, 65, who was walking on the side walk, 90 feet below. Both were killed instantly.
There was also a murder of one of the residents.  “Pigeon Goldie” Osgood, a retired telephone operator, known for protecting and feeding pigeons in a nearby park, was found dead in his ransacked room on June 4, 1964.  He had been stabbed, strangled, and raped.  The crime still remains unsolved.”
- Las Vegas Guardian Express, [color=rgb(0, 51, 153) !important]Elisa Lam, Morbid History Of Two Serial Killers Unfolds At “Cecil Hotel”
Elisa Lam’s case is yet another sordid addition to the hotel’s history and can lead us to ask: “What the hell is wrong with that place”?
The Movie “Dark Water”
The story of Elisa Lam is eerily similar to the 2005 horror movie Dark Water. Dahlia, the main protagonist of the movie moves into an apartment building with her young daughter Cecilia. Both of these names are relevant. Black Dahlia is the nickname given to Elizabeth Short, a woman who was the victim of a gruesome murder in 1947 – one that appeared to be particularly ritualistic. The case was never solved. According to LA Observed, it is rumored that Black Dahlia was at Cecil Hotel right before she lost her life.
“The Black Dahlia, Elizabeth Short, is alleged in at least one book to have hung out at the Cecil and drank at the bar next door before she disappeared in 1947, though cultural historians Kim Cooper and Richard Schave of Esotouric say that’s just rumor.”
- LA Observed, [color=rgb(0, 51, 153) !important]Serial Killer Central
In the movie, the daughter’s name, Cecilia, is, obviously, quite similar to the name Cecil Hotel.
After moving into her apartment, Dahlia notices dark water leaking from the ceiling in her bathroom. She ultimately discovers that a young girl named Natasha Rimsky drowned in the building’s rooftop water tank, which caused the water to turn black. The owner of the apartment building knew about this fact but refused to take action. Elisa Lam’s body was  in the water tank for over two weeks, causing hotel guests to complain about foul tasting “black water”.
The ending of the movie is also eerily relevant: The apartment buildings elevator malfunctions and the ghost of Cecilia’s mother braids her hair. Is Elisa Lam’s death one of those ritualistic murders that are synchronistically mirrored in a Hollywood movie?
Another Strange Coincidence
Shortly after the discovery of Elisa Lam’s body, a deadly outbreak of tuberculosis occurred in Skid Row, near Cecil Hotel. You probably won’t believe the name of the test kit used in these kinds of situations: LAM-ELISA. That is hardcore synchronicity.
No Foul Play?
LA authorities ruled in June 2013 that Elisa Lam’s death [color=rgb(0, 51, 153) !important]was accidental and that she was “probably bi-polar”. That being said, some questions remain unanswered. How did Elisa, who was obviously not in her right mind, end up in the hotel’s water tank, an area that is difficult to access? Here’s a news report describing the water tank area.

As the reporter states in the video, the rooftop area is protected by an alarm system and the water tank is difficult to reach. How did Elisa reach that area? Also, how did she close the water tank lid?
As is usually the case for strange deaths, authorities have been incredibly secretive and non-transparent during this investigation. What truly happened here? Why are there so many strange coincidences? Why was Elisa Lam acting so strange in the elevator? Was there a ritualistic aspect to this death? Why is the Cecil Hotel a hotbed for these kinds of stories? Is there some paranormal stuff going on there involving dark entities? The mystery appears to be whole and authorities do not seem to be wanting to probe further. Maybe I should cite here the slogan that appears on Dark Water movie posters : “Some mysteries are not meant to be solved”.





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Last edited by medangmru on 30-10-2013 08:53 PM

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 Author| Post time 30-10-2013 01:35 PM | Show all posts
utk korang yg malas baca. aku sarankan korang tgk video tuh.

secara ringkasnya, elisa lam ni berkelakuan aneh dalam  lif tu. dan lepas tu katanya dia berjaya naik ke bumbung, masuk tangki air, dan dipercayai lemas. katanya kes ni lebih kurang cerita dark water macam tu.

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Post time 30-10-2013 02:02 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
wanawina posted on 30-10-2013 01:35 PM
utk korang yg malas baca. aku sarankan korang tgk video tuh.

secara ringkasnya, elisa lam ni berk ...

Ooo ...minah ni yg masuk dlm lif pastu pintu lif tak nak tutup erk..aku tgok sekerat je..aku takut ada yg nk pedajal tetiba keluar pic hantu depan screen..nyampah taww klu kena mcm tu...rasa nak memaki jer..
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Post time 30-10-2013 02:03 PM | Show all posts
its a hoax. you can google it.
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kajol77 posted on 30-10-2013 02:02 PM
Ooo ...minah ni yg masuk dlm lif pastu pintu lif tak nak tutup erk..aku tgok sekerat je..aku takut ...

aku tgk dah sampai habis. aku pun memule ingat tetiba hantu kuar. hahaha. tapi aku dah tgk. x de pun. sbb ni rakaman cctv lif je.
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Post time 30-10-2013 02:07 PM | Show all posts
mana link video ni??maaf aku mls nak cari hehehe
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thoyol posted on 30-10-2013 02:03 PM
its a hoax.  you can google it.

la... ye ke? penat aku tempek. hahaha. mod tutup jela.
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Post time 8-11-2013 03:05 PM | Show all posts
Ada pun org post pasal nie. Aku baru ingat nk bukak thread gak.. aku first tgk kt bbc news. Pastu aku google tgk banyak orang ulas pasal kes nie. Memang betul2 jadi ok, bukan hoax. Tapi kalau tolak psl benda2 supernatural nie, aku rasa benda nie more like a murder case la.. memang pembunuh tu dah carefully planned.. masa first ko tgk dia masuk lif, dia cam tekan2 nombor kat lif tu kan maybe sbb lif tu jam sebab tu dia try press tuk g level2 lain. And then, dia kuar balik lif and cam jengok kat hallway tu.. haa tang tu saspen sikit.. nampak as if ada orang tengah kejar dia, and dia cam nak lari dari orang tu. Sebabnya, dia terus masuk balik lif and bersandar kat sudut lif tu cam nak sembunyikan diri. Perghh time nie meremang kot bulu roma takut ada benda muncul tetiba kat depan lif tu..

Haa part yg lepas tu tu, yang sangat eerie.. sebab dia start acting weird. Dia keluar dari lif, pastu dengan gerak2kan tangan dia cam tengah cakap ngan somebody yg kita x nampak.. tu mmg weird. And masa kat hujung cctv tu, korang boleh tgk dinding yang menghadap lif tu tiba2 tukar color to coklat/merah, pastu last skali cam kaler orange. Pelik! Padahal tu kat same floor.. lif tu x bergerak pun lagi..

Lagi satu yg pelik, macam mana dia boleh pergi kat water tank yg kat atas bangunan tu, padahal access door tu dah armed/dah pasang alarm? Kat sini boleh buat hipotesis yang pembunuh tu could be pekerja Cecil Hotel tu sendiri sebab, siapa lagi yang tahu nk arm/disarm pintu2 kat situ kan...

And pasal dia panjat water tank tu, ada 2 assumptions aku: 1) Dia yang panjat sendiri.  Takde pape yg mustahil sbb ada tangga.. maybe dia try nak larikan diri dari pembunuh tu, and terus panjat naik tank instead of terjun bangunan tu, lagi parah.. tapi yg musykil nya, apsal mayat dia dijumpai tanpa baju, and baju dia tak dijumpai? Aku buat assumption, 2) maybe pembunuh tu rogol dulu and then bawak dia naik tank and campak dia dalam tu..sebab sangat mustahil utk dia masuk sendiri and tutup lid tank tu sendiri.

And then, xtau la dia nie on drug ke apa sampai ada hallucination or sleepwalking.. kalau sleepwalking at least baju dia mesti orang jumpa kan kat kawasan tu.. nie takde!

Tu pendapat aku.. too many assumptions. Until now, pihak2 berkuasa kat sana lum bentangkan kertas siasatan lagi. And macam ada terlalu banyak cover ups. Tak tau la apa motif. Pastu, yang pelik sangat tu hotel tu boleh cakap dorang memang x letak cctv kt hallway tu?! mestila sepatutnya ada kan?? tu la, cam banyak sgt yg pelik and di cover oleh dorg2 nie.. media pn tak terkecuali.

And yg ironik lagi tu, nama test tuk identify bakteria and untuk kesan penyakit TB, dorang panggil sebagai LAM-ELIZA. And kes nie pun terbongkar sebab, ada hotel residents yang perasan air kat bilik dorang cam tersumbat, kecik sangat and then ada rasa & bau lain.. and, dorang pun cam sakit2 gakla minum air dari water tap tu. Bila dorang report tu the management, tu yang dorang pegi periksa tangki air and jumpa mayat si Elisa nie..see, TB kat boleh berjangkit melalui air.. could it be ada konspirasi tuk wat mass murder ke..who knows. Ok, taknak detail sgt pasal tu, sbb nanti kena cite lagi pasal conspiracy theory, illuminati bagai. Letih nak menaip. =P

And then footnote lagi, Cecil Hotel nie memang dah banyak dark reputation sbb dulu ada 2 orang serial killer yg memang menginap kat sini and ditangkap pun kat sini.. and then pernah jadi tempat tuk orang2 terjun bunuh diri.

Aku syorkan korg yg berminat, google lagi pasal Elisa Lam nie.. banyak write up / article pasal kes nie. Aku memang berminat kes2 misteri macam nie..hehehe.. Last edited by ninjago on 8-11-2013 03:18 PM

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Post time 8-11-2013 03:24 PM | Show all posts
ninjago posted on 8-11-2013 03:05 PM
Ada pun org post pasal nie. Aku baru ingat nk bukak thread gak.. aku first tgk kt bbc news. Pastu ak ...

terbaik..
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Post time 8-11-2013 06:41 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Sgt2 msteri...takut akuuuu
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Post time 8-11-2013 07:49 PM | Show all posts
Itula...eerie sangat time dia buat gerak tangan dia tu...

Mungkin jugak dia hallucination... or menghala ke mabuk2 gitu...

Tapi kan coba tengok elok2...tangan dia tu tengah try sensor liff ti..sebab tu dia dok menga'wang-awangkan' tangan dia
gitu...

Terbaek la TT Last edited by coco_chanel on 8-11-2013 07:53 PM

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Post time 8-11-2013 07:51 PM | Show all posts
apakah sebenarnya yang telah terjadi??

knapa pintu lif jam masa eliza tu masuk... masa part akhir2 tu boleh plak lift tu tbukak ttup.. kat lantai tu nampak mcm ada bygn eliza gak kot yg tekan2 bg pintu lift tbukak ttup

namun ianya amat misteri kes ini
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ninjago posted on 8-11-2013 03:05 PM
Ada pun org post pasal nie. Aku baru ingat nk bukak thread gak.. aku first tgk kt bbc news. Pastu ak ...

thanks incik ninja!!

excited pulak aku baca cerita ko. nnt kalau ada masa aku nak gugel lagi lah.
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Post time 9-11-2013 01:32 PM | Show all posts
sejibik cam movie, iols pernah tengok movie thailand camni. ada perempuan mati dlm tank, dekat rumah penhghuni ada keluar mcm3 dekat sink diaorg such rambut, gigi...
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Post time 15-11-2013 04:11 PM | Show all posts
meremang masa tengok pergerakan tangan die..huhuhu..please share need to know apa jadi story ni skrg
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Post time 18-11-2013 03:39 AM | Show all posts
mmg mcm ada sesuatu
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Post time 19-11-2013 04:22 PM | Show all posts
wah kalau betul hantu yg rasuk memang seram la hotel ni
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Post time 19-11-2013 04:45 PM | Show all posts
jump to 1.57 memang aw...so eerie ..nape dia buat tangan camtu?
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