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[Tempatan] AirAsia Indonesia (QZ8501): Bangkai Pesawat Telah Dikesan #2428

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Post time 31-12-2014 05:47 PM | Show all posts
akusukaq replied at 31-12-2014 05:46 PM
Kalu berlaku pd ketingian yg sgt tinggi tekanan udara yg terlalu rendah akan menekan jasad sehingg ...

mcm mangsa MH17 basically mereka dah tak sedarkan diri terus kan sis?
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Post time 31-12-2014 05:49 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
noor2 posted on 31-12-2014 06:51 AM
Itu org malaysia paham....hihi

kalau bunting pelamin paham tak?
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Post time 31-12-2014 05:51 PM | Show all posts
kondisi jenazah @KRI Bung Tomo













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Post time 31-12-2014 05:53 PM | Show all posts
nafari replied at 31-12-2014 05:51 PM
kondisi jenazah @KRI Bung Tomo

perut semua macam dah kembung kan sis?
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Post time 31-12-2014 05:56 PM | Show all posts
Peterpan17 replied at 31-12-2014 05:00 PM
Dari mana source berita kata mayat pakai pelampung ni?? Byk sgt speku yg tak selari. Sekejap begit ...

tau takpe...
bukti depan mata pun cite dah macam2 versi...
ni kan plak nak dibandingkan dgn mh370 punye cite...
yg hilang tanpa tanda
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akusukaq replied at 31-12-2014 05:46 PM
Kalu berlaku pd ketingian yg sgt tinggi tekanan udara yg terlalu rendah akan menekan jasad sehingg ...

Macam sakit je bunyinya, sedangkan sakit telinga masa nak landing pun dah sakit sangat.
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Post time 31-12-2014 06:00 PM | Show all posts
pisangkaki replied at 31-12-2014 05:44 PM
meaning pilot sempat announce suruh pakai life jacket kan? tp x sempat nak inform ATC. or maybe bc ...

ada news satu lagi basarnas nafikan cerita itu sis.
katanya ada satu mayat di jumpa dekat dengan floating life jacket namun mayat itu sendiri tidak memakai life jacket.
bad reporting or miscommunication ala dah jumpa 40 mayat semalam itu sis.
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Post time 31-12-2014 06:02 PM | Show all posts
macam tak sesuai jah tajuk thread?
adakah bermakna kalau mati dalam MH370 dan MH17 itu nyawa lebih mahal dari mangsa QZ??walaupun kedua2 nya sama mati kejung jua?
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Post time 31-12-2014 06:04 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Changa replied at 31-12-2014 06:02 PM
macam tak sesuai jah tajuk thread?
adakah bermakna kalau mati dalam MH370 dan MH17 itu nyawa lebi ...

Setuju dgn akak. Tambang murah nyawa pun murah. Sedangkan MAS tu mahal pun kena juga
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Post time 31-12-2014 06:05 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
pilot replied at 31-12-2014 05:56 PM
tau takpe...
bukti depan mata pun cite dah macam2 versi...
ni kan plak nak dibandingkan dgn mh ...

Mgkn di keluarkan oleh media yg cari berita sensasi. Bukan dr sumber official SAR  team
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Post time 31-12-2014 06:05 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Tahnya. Tajuk misleading sgt. Tah apa2 je
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Post time 31-12-2014 06:14 PM | Show all posts
Edited by ctrl+F at 31-12-2014 06:16 PM

Crowded skies in Southeast Asia put pressure on pilots, air traffic control


The sheer volume of flights in the skies over Southeast Asia is putting pressure on outdated air traffic control and on pilots to take risky unilateral action in crises such as that possibly faced by AirAsia flight QZ8501.

Pilots who have flown the Indonesia to Singapore route say it's not unusual for delays to requests to increase altitude to avoid bad weather – and for requests to eventually be rejected due to the number of other planes in the area.

That leaves pilots flying in a region of volatile weather conditions facing a high-risk challenge: when to take matters into their own hands and declare an emergency, allowing them to take action without getting permission from air traffic control.

Most consider that step – which requires them to broadcast a wideband call to other aircraft in the area and which will later be closely scrutinised by regulators – a last resort.

"As a professional pilot, you are obligated to think quickly," a Qantas Airways pilot with 25 years experience in the region told Reuters. "If you've signed for the plane, as we put it, you've signed for potentially 300 passengers and millions of dollars worth of aircraft; that's a multibillion dollar liability. Part of the job is to balance the risk and make a snap decision."

Weighing those risks has become increasingly difficult in Southeast Asia, an area that has seen explosive growth in budget air travel in recent years.

The number of passengers carried annually across Asia-Pacific has jumped by two-thirds in the past five years to more than 1 billion, according to the Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation. Budget airlines, which only took to the skies around a dozen years ago, today make up about 60% of Southeast Asia's seat capacity. AirAsia and Indonesia's Lion Air have placed record orders with the main plane makers.

Boeing predicts the region's airlines will need about 13,000 new planes over the next two decades, and Airbus expects Asia-Pacific to drive demand over that period.

Logistical nightmare

"There are certain flight corridors that are over-stressed due to traffic," said a former Singapore Airlines (SIA) pilot with a decade's flying experience at the carrier. "One certainly would be the Indonesia/Singapore flights which are flown by many different companies and aircraft types at a variety of altitudes and speeds."

Pilots say that causes a logistical nightmare for the region's air traffic control (ATC), particularly outside high-tech hubs such as Singapore.

"As the airways become more crowded, it takes ATC longer to coordinate and give clearances such as higher altitudes and weather deviations," the former SIA pilot said.

This can be critical in a region where weather conditions can change very quickly, with strong winds and tropical thunderstorms posing time-critical challenges for pilots.

The circumstances around the AirAsia crash are not yet known, but investigators and the airline's chief Tony Fernandes have pointed to changeable weather being a significant factor.

The Association of Asia Pacific Airlines said last month that while airlines were investing heavily in fuel-efficient planes to meet rising demand, there was growing concern about the need to also invest in related infrastructure, such as airport terminals, runways and air navigation services.

Outdated equipment

To keep aircraft travelling in a flight corridor at a safe distance from each other, air traffic controllers in Indonesia employ procedural separation – where they use pilots' radio reports to calculate their position relative to other traffic.

That takes longer than the more sophisticated radar separation used in Singapore and elsewhere in the world, which allows a controller to more quickly take stock of radar returns from all aircraft in the area.

A lack of up-to-date equipment and volatile weather conditions were cited by pilots and aviation experts in the 2013 crash of a Lion Air Boeing 737, when the pilot reported the plane being "dragged down" by wind into the sea just short of the runway.

That was considered a classic example of wind shear – the sudden change in wind speed and direction. Airports in the region's popular island resorts, including Bali, Koh Samui, Langkawi and Cebu, don't have on-ground wind shear detection equipment to help pilots land and take off.

Pilots said critical decisions often come down to experience.

"In my opinion, if I don't get permission (to change course) and there's weather ahead, I'll just deviate and deal with the authorities later," said another former SIA pilot who is now with a Gulf carrier. – December 31, 2014.

Source: http://www.themalaysianinsider.c ... air-traffic-control

apa pandangan Tuan Kelana dan Ekod?
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Post time 31-12-2014 06:19 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Kerêta_Angin replied at 31-12-2014 05:49 PM
kalau bunting pelamin paham tak?

Paham juga hehe
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Post time 31-12-2014 06:23 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
noor2 posted on 31-12-2014 10:19 AM
Paham juga hehe

yg tu bukan bahasa indonesia...tak ada dlm kamus besar
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Post time 31-12-2014 06:24 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Kerêta_Angin replied at 31-12-2014 06:23 PM
yg tu bukan bahasa indonesia...tak ada dlm kamus besar

Tu dari malaysia. ..hihi
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Post time 31-12-2014 06:25 PM | Show all posts
Kerêta_Angin replied at 31-12-2014 06:23 PM
yg tu bukan bahasa indonesia...tak ada dlm kamus besar

Bunting pelamin bahasa Melayu, ada dalam Kamus Dewan.
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Post time 31-12-2014 06:28 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
noor2 posted on 31-12-2014 10:24 AM
Tu dari malaysia. ..hihi

yeke?

kami pun biasa ckp tu...

bunting pelamin...bunting pelamin.. haha
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Post time 31-12-2014 06:28 PM | Show all posts
ctrl+F replied at 31-12-2014 06:14 PM
Crowded skies in Southeast Asia put pressure on pilots, air traffic control

Trafik udara kat region ni mmg heavy la kan. Dengan perkembangan pesat aviation industry lagi.
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Post time 31-12-2014 06:35 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Kittie posted on 31-12-2014 10:25 AM
Bunting pelamin bahasa Melayu, ada dalam Kamus Dewan.

perkataan "bunting pelamin" cuma diguna oleh org2 selat...
(sekitaran selat melako)
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Post time 31-12-2014 06:36 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
motip ot bunting pelamin? hu hu
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