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[Dunia]
VOL19 MH370: SUDAH MELEPASI 370 JAM HILANG, DIMENSI KEARAH PERANG DUNIA KETIGA
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lorelai posted on 24-3-2014 03:25 PM
apa kna mengena
red bean army dalam citer ni?
jika isu MH370 ini
berlaku pada pesawat SIA di sinkapork,
petugas RSAF tidak akan diperlecehkan
sebab tiada cina RBA di sinkapork
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C.K posted on 24-3-2014 03:28 PM
Sorry..akak tidak pasti dan tidak dpt tangkap apa tujuan kamu tag akak sebetulnya...akak cuma baca ...
tadi kan akak tanya sama ada radar acheh kesan ker tidak.. itu la info radar acheh
Acheh dpt kesan x? Yg akak tgk...thailand jah yg bahagitahu radar mereka kesan pesawat ini berada atas ruang udara gulf of thailand dna hilang di butterworth...
itu laa.. gaduh pung pang sana sini .. pay attention sikit laaa
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FanTasyCreaTioN posted on 24-3-2014 03:25 PM
ades uols ..
di mana debris dijumpa...disitu lah kapal tu terhempas...tak kan jauh punya... |
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tapibukanaku posted on 24-3-2014 12:15 PM
korean air pun sama
memang diorang terus tembak ke? tak perlu bagi warning gituh? macam suruh terus keluar dari kawasan dulu ke if degil baru tembak? ke memang nampak je masuk kawasan tu terus tembak? |
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edee_91 posted on 24-3-2014 07:27 AM
its not about negara mana jahat negara mana baik. its about masing2 menjaga kepentingan negara mas ...
ye lah..
i got that
loud n clear
but some people dont
when Malaysia did not give proper infos.." Owh msia is protecting the country by not giving up our military datas"
but when other countries satellites picked something up and then did not inform our country earlier..suddenly the country is labelled calculative, kedekut dan laen2
summary : the pot calling the kettle black Last edited by lorelai on 24-3-2014 07:41 AM
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Changa posted on 24-3-2014 03:27 PM
thai radar ada detect semasa lintasi semenanjung namun on and off sebegitu katanya, namun bila dah ...
iye mmg thai radar ada detect, tapi mereka buat tak heran sebab tak ganggu gugat keselamatan negara thai & pesawat tak masuk ruang udara mereka langsung. But acheh is something else, coz kalau ikutkan gambarajah radar acheh, patutnya mereka boleh kesan pesawat dlm radar.. tapi katanya tak ada.. how low can the aircraft fly tanpa dikesan oleh military radar eh?
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d'zeck posted on 24-3-2014 07:29 AM
jika isu MH370 ini
berlaku pada pesawat SIA di sinkapork,
lol
yang perlekeh kan
adalah orang yg bitau kat dunia, radar kita x kesan apa2 lah...
rasa2nya bukan cina yg bitau benda tu
be fair!
jgn sebab hatred kepada sesuatu bangsa , x nampak kepincangan
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juliez posted on 24-3-2014 03:30 PM
tadi kan akak tanya sama ada radar acheh kesan ker tidak.. itu la info radar acheh
Jgn salahkan akak jika kamu baca posting akak dlm nada bergaduh...akak tidak bergaduh pun...udah begini budaya kami disini....salahkan jah diri kamu sendiri yg bimbo masih xboleh hadam budaya disini...akak sudah awal2 noted apabila kamu paste dihadapan itu..hanya karena akak tidak bahagi perhatian ke kamu tidak bermakna akak tidak baca...lapar perhatian akak jua kah? sehingga berkali2 mahu buktikan |
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juliez posted on 24-3-2014 03:34 PM
Fanatiknya dorang ni..terkujat kapten dibuatnya |
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tapibukanaku posted on 24-3-2014 03:28 PM
kadang2 orang menyampah...
org malaysia kena belajar kalau nak mencari penyelesaian atau jawapan
1. kalau nak cari jawapan kena berterus terang dalam percakapan
2. jangan peduli apa org rasa..just say it, if you think it is correct
3. kena belajar lepas cakap
4. kena terbuka dalam musaywarah
hehehehehehe |
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http://seademon.wordpress.com/2014/03/20/mh370-i-speak-out/
aku xtau ni dah ke tidhok.. but its a good reading
This posting is made with the above in mind. A lot has been said about the disappearance of the MH370. Most of what has been said are purely speculations, with some that might have qualified to be nominated for best screenplay at the Academy Awards. I, too, have some idea of what might have happened but I put them aside so I could listen to the daily press conference with an open mind. I will also attempt to maintain some form of ethics because I also have the feelings of the family of the passengers and crew in mind when I write this.
The Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) has come under intense attack by both foreign and local media alike. The Air Defence system has also come under intensive fire by members of the opposition party for its failure to detect the MH370 upon deviating from its intended path and the subsequent failure to scramble our fighters. Some even say our air defence personnel were asleep on the job, and that at least one air defence radar was not working.
It is easy for keyboard warriors to criticise the RMAF without knowing what or how our air defence systems work. Perhaps when they think of an air defence system, they had the following in mind:
Why I write this is to give a general understanding of how our air defence system works, and what really happened that night. I have been generally quiet on this matter as at the time of writing, I am grieving the passing of my younger brother exactly 100 days today. But duty calls, I guess.
I left the RMAF almost 20 years ago. A handful of my squad-mates are still serving senior officers. Back in September 2012, a number of bloggers (including I) and some senior editors of the Malaysian media (including those that are opposition-leaning) were invited to a media open day organised by the then Minister of Defence. Everything was displayed to us, including some of the very sensitive information, so that we could acquire enough background and understand how the RMAF works. Out of the 80 or so people who were there that day, I guess I am the only one to come to the defence of the RMAF.
First of all, this is how a typical air defence centre looks like from the inside:
It is no longer the one-man show you see in the movie “Tora! Tora! Tora!” There are several air defence centres around Malaysia covering both the Peninsula, Sabah, Sarawak and FAR beyond. I have a photo of how far our air defence radars reach, but although I was allowed to take photos of the main display, I opt not to put it up here. Suffice to say, what we have is enough to tell us way ahead if a hostile aircraft is approaching our airspace. When we were at the air defence centre, we were shown a live interception of two bogeys by two of our MiG-29N interceptors.
If I may say, what we all saw on the screen was what would have been seen by all the operators of the other RMAF Air Defence Centres around the nation that if one failed, it would not jeopardise what the others could see.
During this display, not one journo nor blogger could come up with a sane question related to what was shown to them. In the end, I and a few of my blogger friends had to ask the questions to get the RMAF clarify on issues that the media and bloggers have been attacking them on. Even the Deputy Chief of Air Force, Lieutenant General Dato Seri Haji Roslan bin Saad thanked me for my participation and for helping the RMAF clarify some issues.
Let us go back to that wee hours on Saturday, 8th March 2014. MH370 took off from Kuala Lumpur International Airport at 0041 hours (Local Time). At 0107 hours, the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) transmitted that all was well with the aircraft.
The aircraft soon after arrived at waypoint IGARI, about 78 nautical miles from Redang island, bearing 056 degrees) which is a point in the South China Sea between the Malaysian border with Vietnam. At this point, Lumpur Flight Information Region (FIR) would hand over the control aircraft to Vietnam. At 0119 hours, a person believed to be the co-pilot transmitted the final vox transmission, “Alright, good night.” At 0122 hours, the aircraft disappeared from secondary radar coverage without any distress call suggesting its transponder had been switched off by someone on the flight deck. However, it was only at 0240 hours that Malaysia Airlines was notified.
The RMAF Air Defence radars saw the MH370 tracked West Southwest to waypoint VAMPI (68 nautical miles East Northeast of Lhokseumawe, Indonesia), then Northeast to waypoint GIVAL (69 nautical miles South Southwest of Phuket International Airport) before tracking Northwest towards waypoint IGREX (100 nautical miles East Southeast of Car Nicobar airport on India’s Nicobar Islands), the last known position according to the primary radar. Where MH370 went to after this point is unknown at this point, but I believe the Indian Air Force’s Andaman and Nicobar Command’s primary radar there would have caught the MH370 in its scope.
So, if the MH370 was seen to deviate from its intended course, why didn’t the RMAF scramble its fighters to intercept the airliner?
Every bogey (unknown aircraft) would be tagged by an Air Defence Officer and this data will be processed to ascertain whether it was a threat to air defence or otherwise. In the case of the MH370, it was not regarded as hostile. Is this a weakness on the part of the RMAF? Mind you three jetliners took down the World Trade Centre towers as well as the Pentagon in the sophisticatedly-defended United States of America.
Should our fighters have been scrambled? If you remember, the MH370 was no longer in our airspace. When the MH370 tracked West Southwest from IGARI to VAMPI, she did not cross Malaysian airspace. She flew over Thai airspace and into Indonesian airspace, then tracked up to GIVAL near Phuket and subsequently to IGREX near India’s Nicobar Islands (see below).
When she tracked from IGARI to IGREX she entered an area with two Royal Thai Air Force fighter bases namely the RTAF 7th Wing in Surat Thani and the 56th Wing in Hat Yai. They, too, were not scrambled. Nor were the fighters of the Indonesian Air Force (TNI-AU) scrambled from Lhokseumawe or Banda Aceh in Aceh, or Suwondo in Medan. If you think the Indonesians are as incapable as the RMAF, they forced a US military transport down without scrambling their fighters at their base in Banda Aceh on 20th May 2013 for entering Indonesian airspace without proper clearance.
The Chief of Air Force, General Tan Sri Dato Seri Rodzali bin Daud have explained that the RMAF did not see the need to scramble its fighters as the blip on the primary radar was deemed not hostile, and that there was nothing wrong with the air defence system. I just find this attack on the RMAF as another cheap publicity shot by a bunch of losers who do not know how things work and why, and would just take pot shots and see what gets hit.
I know the RMAF I see now is a far advanced RMAF than the one I left almost 20 years ago, and I have faith in the officers, men and women in their capability to defend this nation. I cannot say the same for the group of losers bent on hitting out at any institution of His Majesty Yang DiPertuan Agong.
To these losers, please just STFU!
Last edited by cmf_conan on 24-3-2014 03:41 PM
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cmf_conan posted on 24-3-2014 07:38 AM
http://seademon.wordpress.com/2014/03/20/mh370-i-speak-out/
aku xtau ni dah ke tidhok.. but its a ...
dah ada tiap2 thread
tp mmg bagus untuk refreshment
melayu mudah lupa
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lorelai posted on 24-3-2014 03:39 PM
dah ada tiap2 thread
tp mmg bagus untuk refreshment
itu laa kan.. should letak the link dkt 1st page.. siapkan Q & A sekali. Penat baca soalan yg sama setiap kali thread baru buka. Patutnya dah lama tinggal isu tu, pay attention dkt indian ocean dah now
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bolehlah jadikan thread @annehuda itu sebagai VOL20 |
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juliez posted on 24-3-2014 03:32 PM
iye mmg thai radar ada detect, tapi mereka buat tak heran sebab tak ganggu gugat keselamatan neg ...
Kenapa dlm masa2 begini semua org mula pertikaikan negara2 PPRT yg radarnya tidak kesan? Walhal semua org tahu takat negara PPRT itu..kalau mereka londehkan data log radar mereka...habislah negara mereka...xkan mereka mahu jadi mcm malaysia jua..londehkan data radar dan letakkan tahap keselamatan negara no 2
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lol..jap lagik mesti ada yang bergadoh pasal thread pula
pasal mod x adil dan laen..
to me syiok benda2 tu..mcm entertainment
tiba2 senyap ya
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