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[Jenayah]
KES KEMATIAN PELAJAR UPNM VOL 4: CASH ITU PASTI !
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scorpionkiki replied at 18-6-2017 07:01 PM
Mmg pun...character inilah yg penting utk situasi perang...sbb tu awal awal dulu ada my friend yg ...
Aku rs...tak mustahil...simpan dulu depa..sbb depa ni bdk cerdik....time terdesak hantaq la depa ke mana2....ekkk mcm movie plak eh |
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pu3_rania replied at 18-6-2017 08:32 PM
Baru aje tonton berita TV9 yg mana akhirnya H2O bersuara dgn bagi kenyataan sistem UPNM perlu di rom ...
alhamdulillah
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queenhua replied at 18-6-2017 08:52 PM
Taktau la sekuat mana brotherhood depa tu mek.. kalau kena reman dgn polis pun dah keluar sebut se ...
Acikhood kat sini lagi kuat you utk arwah dan family |
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sayawifenikmie replied at 18-6-2017 08:02 PM
mana ada biasa ... kes bunuh ....
Yg i ckp biasa ni nak elak saman bg pampasan..
Ada lawyer dia sendiri akan advice client dia utk settle tepi |
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Kita semua tahu depa bakal mempertahankan negara.kita pun tahu mereka harus berjiwa kental & latihan yg dilalui melatih jadi kental & tahan lasak. Tapi, sebagaimana kita pandang mereka bakal jadi benteng negara, mcm tu jugalah mereka harus pandang rakan sama2 belajar ini akan menjadi rakan seperjuangan di masa akan datang.
Jijik & kejam betul kalau buli / belasah kawan sendiri kengkonon nak membina jiwa kental. Apa, tak cukup lagi latihan yg diberikan oleh UPNM sampai kawan sendiri pun nak jadi mangsa?
Brotherhood tu sepatutnya bersama2 mempertahankannegara, bukan berasama2 makan kawan...bodoh...mmg tak boleh diterima akal bersifat kejam & sadis kpd kwn sendiri..
Baik korang mampus ..
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mybarbie replied at 18-6-2017 07:19 PM
kalau tengok mcm mana diorang kena torture mentally & physically, nak menangis pun ada. i tengok d ...
Ada jua yg menyatakan mereka mmg perlukan bully ragging atau bahasa lembutnya denda sebegitu rupa agar x lembik bila berhadapan musuh..... x mudah break bila diculik dan didera kalau pihak musuh nak curi rahsia negara...
Masalahnya mmg perlukah sebegitu? Tentera2 zaman nabi s.a.w ..waima tentera khulafa ar rashidin...malah tentera sultan alfateh yg menawan romawi..apakah begitu cara latihannya? Ai dun think so... |
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mybarbie replied at 18-6-2017 08:39 PM
samalah kita. kalau xmampu nak angkat senjata, kita berjuang dengan cara sendiri la jawabnya.i ten ...
Tetiba terjumpa post ni kat FB 
For me ,those 6 culprit, if found guilty mmg layak ke tali gantung..tiada maaf bagimu..
By Nik Elin Nik Rashid
https://m.facebook.com/story.php ... 38&id=685734637
Its Sunday morning and I havent slept much.
My mind is going on overun. So excuse my inability to choose the right words to pen down my thoughts.
Those 13 21 year olds charged under section 330 of the Penal Code have not yet been found guilty in any court of law. It IS a bailable offence. They are entitled to go back to college to pursue their dreams.
Although I feel very sad at the death of Zulfarhan, I feel the 6 young men that are now charged for his murder, should not, even if found guilty of murder, (which I dont believe they are), they should not be given death sentences.
Why am I not for death punishments? Because there is always room for error and because there is always room for remorse and a right to make amends in ones life. They still have a future. Apart from that, I believe that Life and Death, all belongs to God to decide.
Laws are man made after deliberations for order in the nation. There is a certain standard of life that we all want to achieve - peaceful coexistence. So we create laws to benefit the nation which suits the time period.
Let me explain where Im going - We give mandatory death by hanging for trafficking marijuana. And many have been hung by our laws. But there now seems to be more and more countries that have found marijuana to be good and as such have legalised marijuana use.
Can you imagine what it feels like to have someone hung for marijuana yesterday only to have marijuana later legalised next year?
What we need to do is to cultivate a culture of a conscientious society. A society that thinks and can reason. Its possible.
A society where you wont need police except to ease traffic congestion when the traffic lights dont work. A society where MACC has nothing to investigate. A society that is free from crime because everybody accepts one another and respects each others properties. No more robberies, snatch thefts, fights. Everything is settled amicably. Loans are paid.
Perhaps every now and then there will be a few of unsound mind that would go about murdering others for no reason. That can be avoided if we recognise their problem early and to identify them and send them for psychiatric treatment.
I dont know when this will ever happen, but we could start now. Each and everyone of us.
Imagine if we could start with our leaders who dont practise abuse of power, corruption, greedy wives dont take our 1MdB funds to buy luxury but have conscience to not steal from our coffers, there would be enough funds for all Malaysians to reap its benefit and afford many things like, a laptop, which Zulfarhan was accused of stealing. In all probability, there would be funds to give each student his own laptop at college or school.
A society that accepts diversity. So that effeminates wouldnt be teased and hurt and cruelly murdered. A society of acceptance of others with differences of opinion. A society that is not condescending. A society that doesnt need moral policing. A society that is allowed to use logic.
There would be no poverty. Everyone can afford education and get jobs that pay enough.
Then you may ask -
Who will clean our drains? Who will sweep our floors? Who will build our buildings? Who will guard our homes?
Wont we need labourers?
Well, off the cuff, I'd say, if we dont throw garbage everywhere, if we have in place proper iirrigation systems run by non corrupt departments, contractors being paid well enough to pay labourers good pay, an efficient security system, or well who needs security guards if everyone has a conscience anyway?
Theres so many ways to cure us all. We could start now. Dont be greedy. Get off facebook and go do some worthy job.
Ok. Thank you for bothering to spend the last 2 minutes read what goes on in my crazy mind.
#TakutKenaTangkapSebabTulisPasalSiDiaTerpaksaBuatStatusPanjangLebarlah
#HappyfathersDay |
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let's hope keluarga arwah lantik lawyer to keep a watching brief on their behalf
this is getting murky
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liton replied at 18-6-2017 09:04 PM
Kita semua tahu depa bakal mempertahankan negara.kita pun tahu mereka harus berjiwa kental & latihan ...
Ya..betul..ramai2 blasah sorang..aku ada maruah memang xkan buat benda tu walaupun aku tau one to one akan kalah..
so kenapa kalau kalah? Menang dapat apa pun? Nak membela ego sampai x boleh kalah ke?
Biar aku kalah..dan aku terima hinaan atau cacian drpd kekalahan tu..yg penting aku kalah bermaruah...bg aku tu lg kuat..at least aku kuat mental.. |
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part tu i no komen sebab i sendiri xtahu sangat pasal malaysia army punya sistem. cuma budaya ragging tu janganlah anggap normal sampaikan kawan sendiri meninggal pun they accept it as normal. tapi i ada pernah baca dulu which is da lama jugak thread pasal tradisi army ni dekat forum cari ada forumer bagi info yang sistem ketenteraan kita ni mostly adapt british punya sistem. ialah, kalau kita belajar sejarah pun memang birtish pun yang latih askar melayu. dan i rasa tradisi2 tu maybe masih ada yg kekal sampai sekarang.
pasal sistem tentera islam also i reserved my komen sebab i have no knowledge tentang tu.
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ai baru beklog sampai page 67..
ada yang bising2 pasal kakak si kakawa tuh merentan adik dia tak bersalah dan tak pukul / blanket arwah pun..
ada forumer yang kata kalau bersubahat pun boleh kena..
ai nak bagi tau kat kakak kakawa.. 330 tuh adik dia kena sebab mmg ADA terlibat aktiviti PUKUL sesuai dengan sebutan akta..
dan untuk forumer.. sabitan bersubahat akan diberi pada akta 107 hingga 116 yang paling dekat dengan kes ini mengikut mana2 yang sesuai..
sekiranya geng 13 nih dibacakan 330kk, maknanya, mereka memang PUKUL! ada body contact.. period! |
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liton replied at 18-6-2017 09:04 PM
Kita semua tahu depa bakal mempertahankan negara.kita pun tahu mereka harus berjiwa kental & latihan ...
Well said |
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MissMamamia75 replied at 18-6-2017 09:06 PM
Tetiba terjumpa post ni kat FB
For me ,those 6 culprit, if found guilty mmg layak ke tali g ...
" Imagine if we could start with our leaders..."
konon..
Kalau mcm ni tinggal imagine je la..
Sorry la..post ni i would call a rubbish..benda yg dia nak buat tu..it is too good to be true..simpan la..
Kalau nak mcm tu g masuk syurga
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NURMIMIE replied at 18-6-2017 09:22 PM
ai baru beklog sampai page 67..
ada yang bising2 pasal kakak si kakawa tuh merentan adik dia tak ...
Itu lah yg I fikirkan sis. Takkan polis suka2 je nak dakwa dia under 330 kk kan? Kot ye pun kakak tu tak boleh terima adik dia terlibat tak perlu bersuara menegakkan benang yg basah. Diam2 sudah, kemudian hari dia yg malu bila adik dia dijatuhkan hukuman sedangkan dia beria2 kata adik dia tak terlibat |
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A society where you wont need police except to ease traffic congestion when the traffic lights dont work. A society where MACC has nothing to investigate. A society that is free from crime because everybody accepts one another and respects each others properties. No more robberies, snatch thefts, fights. Everything is settled amicably. Loans are paid.
Perhaps every now and then there will be a few of unsound mind that would go about murdering others for no reason. That can be avoided if we recognise their problem early and to identify them and send them for psychiatric treatment.
wow... positive sangat dia ni. sampai i sendiri xtahu nak komen apa dah. speechless.
Although I feel very sad at the death of Zulfarhan, I feel the 6 young men that are now charged for his murder, should not, even if found guilty of murder, (which I dont believe they are), they should not be given death sentences.
Why am I not for death punishments? Because there is always room for error and because there is always room for remorse and a right to make amends in ones life. They still have a future. Apart from that, I believe that Life and Death, all belongs to God to decide.
Laws are man made after deliberations for order in the nation. There is a certain standard of life that we all want to achieve - peaceful coexistence. So we create laws to benefit the nation which suits the time period.
Dalam kes budak 6 orang ni, kalau all the evidences, witnesses dah conclude dia buat kesalahan tu, xkan nak lepaskan and biar dia buat kesalahan sekali lagi? and mana keadilan untuk family?
BTW, dia takut tulis pasal apa sampai takut kena tangkap bagai? i lost dah baca essay dia ni.
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yes.. ni kes berfrofile tinggi.. sangat2 tinggi..
polis seboleh2nya nak elakkan mana2 mistake siasatan untuk mudahkan pendakwaan nanti..
kalau baca akta pasal subahat, bukan senang nak buktikan subahat walau mereka ada kat sana time kejadian.. kena ingat juga itu tempat awam.. dorm.. mmg ada orang akan tinggal.. mmg ada orang lain yang stay sana.. bila mereka lihat, dan merka kata itu perkara biasa, polis boleh buat apa?.. saspek sangat ramai dalam kes ini.. jadi daripada kena tercicir sebab sibuk nak pandang pada yang subahat nih, lebih baik mereka fokus pada yang betul2 hentak arwah..
so yang melihat / tahu yang lain2 tuh dibebaskan.. lebih pekdah jadikan saksi pendakwaan..
so the 6 + 13, mmg ada terlibat body contact.. merasalah yea!..
tapi ai berminat dengan the only one 109.. apa kes disebalik?.. penghasut? sebab penghasut adalah element utama dalam persubahatan jenayah.. kalau betul as he is, dia hasut tang mana dan bagaimana!
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ninnakarinna replied at 18-6-2017 09:23 PM
" Imagine if we could start with our leaders..."
konon..
Yeap...agree with you..  |
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munchkin replied at 18-6-2017 07:05 PM
Masyarakat kita ni banyak bertimbang rasa kesian bagi muka. Pada i do what is rightlah. If u see ...
Yes..do what is right.. masalahnya ada contradiction on the meaning of "right" between our "normal" world and their so called "militaty world"
So mcm mana nak implement what is right?
Bagi kita org awam ni buli tu maksudnya violate someone's rights.. violate freedom of speak..freedom of choice..freedom of expression.
Tapi bg diorang buli ni "biasa".
Bila bercanggah mcm ni kita confused. Yg menghalang buli..katanya nak biar tentera lembik ke?
Yg nak kekalkan tradisi agung buli..katanya eh, zaman nabi takde pun buli2 menang je perang.
Sekarang ni hishamuddin kena ambil kesempatan atas kes farhan..buat rombakan. Guna la cara yg 'right' utk semua..awam dan military.
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mybarbie replied at 18-6-2017 09:34 PM
wow... positive sangat dia ni. sampai i sendiri xtahu nak komen apa dah. speechless.
Dia ing ...
Akak pun xleh nak hadam apa yg dia tulis..
Ramai gak yg komen kat FB..ada yg tulis..if yg meninggal tu anak dia..mcmana pulak..
Like..xkena btg hidung sndiri blh tulis apa saja la kan..
Kita yg xde kena mengena ngan arwah pun penuh rasa simpati.
Xsure apa yg dia takut sgt kat last komen dia tu..post dia ni tetiba muncul kat timeline FB akak.. |
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arwah ni klo umo pnjg dh tentu level lebih tinggi dr kawan2 dia sbb undr TLDM..mungkin motif cemburu |
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