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Precious Metals - Gold, Silver etc.

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Post time 1-12-2010 11:09 PM | Show all posts
Reply  pengecatbintang

jalan kat bayan lepas tu sy dh teror sikit sbb sy duk kat area situ.....n ...
220796 Post at 1-12-2010 17:56


saya x beli gold ngan publicgold...

saya ada beli ngan united oversea bank (UOB)...

ngan publicgold... saya cuma beli silver...

kalo rege gold naik above USD1,420 se ounce..

mgkn saya akan jual semula kpd UOB...

n guna duit tu beli silver dr publicgold
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Post time 1-12-2010 11:16 PM | Show all posts
Reply  pengecatbintang

jalan kat bayan lepas tu sy dh teror sikit sbb sy duk kat area situ.....n ...
220796 Post at 1-12-2010 17:56


off topic jap...

pesal haa.. banyak jalan kat bahagian pulau ni kurang atau takde signboard...

hadoii...

punyalah tensen... kat traffic light simpang 4 pon takde tunjuk arah...
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Post time 2-12-2010 08:12 AM | Show all posts
aku beli gold maple leaf n australian nugget kat UOB KL.

ada option utk jual balik pd uob...  ...
pengecatbintang Post at 30-11-2010 19:10


goldbar dr UOB bleh pajak kt ar rahnu ker? awk beli silver tue kt kedai mana ek? bleh tunjuk atau gi sama2 ker kbtlan sy ada g kl nnti igt nk try beli silver plak...
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Post time 2-12-2010 08:17 AM | Show all posts
off topic jap...

pesal haa.. banyak jalan kat bahagian pulau ni kurang atau takde signboard.. ...
pengecatbintang Post at 1-12-2010 23:16


btl tue sy pn mula2 keliru jgk, tp la nie dh ok skit kot...tau la jgk kt mana PISA, PESTA, bayan baru... terlanjur awk ckp HQ PG br terigt nk tgk opis die...tp kt belah mana ek?
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Post time 2-12-2010 09:12 AM | Show all posts
Reply 349# pengecatbintang


mmg pon....simpang empat kat roundabout besar tu ek? tu r/about kristal point....kuar dari EQ hotel tu u iku left or right dua2 jalan leh tembus ke bukit jambul....masa mula2 duk penag hb sy tnjuk 1 jalan je bertau2n sy dok ikut jalan yg sama x berani try jalan lain takut sesat....smpi la hb ajar jalan lain.....but now dh 6thn kat penang teror le sikit jalan2 kat penang ni.....
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Post time 2-12-2010 10:17 AM | Show all posts
btl tue sy pn mula2 keliru jgk, tp la nie dh ok skit kot...tau la jgk kt mana PISA, PESTA, bayan ...
lostnfaun Post at 2-12-2010 08:17


12E First Floor, Jalan Rumbia,
11900 Bukit Jambul, Penang, Malaysia.
E 101° 42’ 34.6” N 3° 9’ 22.1”

kalo tak silap dekat ngan Bukit Jambul
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Post time 2-12-2010 10:35 AM | Show all posts
goldbar dr UOB bleh pajak kt ar rahnu ker? awk beli silver tue kt kedai mana ek? bleh tunjuk ata ...
lostnfaun Post at 2-12-2010 08:12


rasanya Gold kat UOB tu tak leh gadai kat Ar Rahnu...

mgkn sebab gold tu Syiling...

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saya melilau cari silver sejak tahun 2007... tp tak jumpa... sampai lah tahun 2009 baru jumpa....

Tahun 2009... saya terjumpa kedai emas yang bole ambil raw silver dr pembekal dia...

rege silver masa tu USD18.XX se ounce... (la ni... USD28.XX)... saya beli dr kedai tu RM2.50 - RM2.70 se gram

Tahun tu rege kedai tu nak beli balik dr saya RM1.80 se gram...

di samping tu... tahun 2009 gak... saya beli dr website internet... dapat ler rege RM2.00 - RM2.30 se gram

Tahun 2010...

kalo tak silap... Publicgold start jual silver

so... saya tumpu perhatian beli Silver dr Publicgold lak...

sebab Publicgold ada option beli balik... spread rege la ni 15%...

so, in my opinion... it is better to buy from Publicgold

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esok saya balik KL

saya akan check dulu harga terkini silver di kedai emas tu...

itu hari... bila saya tanya rege... dia tak feedback pun...
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Post time 2-12-2010 10:40 AM | Show all posts
Reply  pengecatbintang


mmg pon....simpang empat kat roundabout besar tu ek? tu r/about kristal ...
220796 Post at 2-12-2010 09:12


suruh ler Lim Guan Eng improve pasal masalah ni
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Post time 2-12-2010 11:21 AM | Show all posts
Reply 353# pengecatbintang


tak perasan la..mgkin opis sia betul2 bertentangan dgn komplex bukit jambul tu.....
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Post time 2-12-2010 03:42 PM | Show all posts
HK gold market hit by sophisticated scam
By Robert Cookson in Hong Kong
Published: December 2 2010 03:59 | Last updated: December 2 2010 03:59


Hong Kong goldsmiths have been sold hundreds of ounces of fake gold this year in one of the most sophisticated scams to hit the Chinese territory’s gold market in decades. Industry executives say the scam – while not massive and hitting only the retail sector – uncloaks the increasingly elaborate gold swindles perpetrated by criminals in Asia as bullion prices soar to record highs of $1,400 a troy ounce.

The counterfeits have shocked Hong Kong’s gold community not because of the amount involved, but because of their sophistication.“It’s a very good fake,” said Haywood Cheung, president of the Chinese Gold & Silver Exchange Society, Hong Kong’s century-old gold exchange, highlighting how criminals are developing new techniques to commit an age-old fraud.

Mr Cheung said he was aware of at least 200 ounces – worth $280,000 – of the fake gold that had been discovered by jewellers and pawn shops. But he estimated that ten times that amount might have infiltrated the retail market. In comparison, the large gold bars held by central banks weigh 400 ounces and are worth nearly $560,000 each.

In one case, executives discovered a pure gold coating that masked a complex alloy with similar properties to gold. The fake gold included a significant amount of bullion – about 51 per cent of the total – alloyed with seven other metals: osmium, iridium, ruthenium, copper, nickel, iron, and rhodium.

The complex nature of the fakes suggest they were produced by a metalsmith with sophisticated equipment and extensive knowledge of metallurgical engineering. Even Luk Fook Group, one of Hong Kong’s biggest jewellers, was tricked into buying $11,500 worth of fake gold this summer before putting its stores on alert. “This was the biggest hit ever,” said Paul Law, executive director of the firm.

In the past, counterfeit gold in Hong Kong and the rest of Asia was either rough and easy to detect, even to the naked eye, or involved gold-plated tungsten, a metal with a similar density to gold, but which traders and jewellers can easily identify. The complexity of the latest batch of fake gold would have reduced the profitability of the scam, since it used a significant amount of bullion, and because iridium and osmium are expensive.


The fakes are extremely hard to detect by sight and touch alone. In most cases, they passed basic scrutiny, only to be revealed later by more sophisticated tests involving high temperatures and chemicals.


Industry executives stressed that the scam targeted the street-level sale of scrap gold to jewellers. Mr Cheung said none of the fake gold had infiltrated the much more bigger market for gold bars, which as is protected by more rigorous controls.


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Post time 2-12-2010 08:19 PM | Show all posts
Reply 354# pengecatbintang

nanti tolong update on purity of the ketulan silver yang dibeli ye..thanks
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Post time 2-12-2010 09:11 PM | Show all posts
Reply 357# kasibiman







bagus la kepala hotak org yg cipta emas ni tiruan ni kan...
(tak tau samada nak memuji atau mengkeji..)




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Post time 2-12-2010 09:14 PM | Show all posts
Reply 357# kasibiman







err... wak kasi...

boleh bg link article tu tak..

ayat terakhir tu... hehe..

p/s: pandai diaorg kasi selit code copyright bila someone kopi diaorg punyer artikel.. haha

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Post time 2-12-2010 10:13 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by pengecatbintang at 2-12-2010 22:18
HK gold market hit by sophisticated scam
By Robert Cookson in Hong Kong
Published: December 2 2010 ...
kasibiman Post at 2-12-2010 15:42


thanks for the article...

kalo tak silap aku... dr pembacaan aku sejak 2 ke 3 tahun lalu

emas ni lebih berbaloi utk ditipu berbanding silver...

ini krn... nilai emas amat mahal berbanding silver...

emas lebih berat dari silver... silver lebih berat dari besi...

kalo tak silap aku, emas lebih berat 2.5 kali ganda dr besi...

so... utk hasilkan fake gold bar yg saiznya (diameter) sama atau hampir sama dengan gold bar purity 99.99...

perlukan bahan yang densiti (berat) hampir dengan gold...

The atomic weight of gold is said to be 196.96 versus 183.86 for tungsten

so.. depa guna tungsten utk wat fake gold

tungsten tu disalut ngan gold...

kos utk hasilkan fake gold yang sofistikated (sukar utk didetect ketidakasliannya) amat tinggi...

tetapi amat berbaloi krn harga emas yg mahal la ni...

lain pula cerita ngan silver...

krn harga silver yang masih murah... kos untuk hasilkan fake silver bar tidak berbaloi..

so kita tumpukan pd gold...

berkemungkinan... mereka hanya berani wat fake gold bar yang bersaiz melebihi 500 gram...

sebab kenapa? nnt aku cari artikel tu balik...

  








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Post time 2-12-2010 10:21 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by pengecatbintang at 2-12-2010 22:32
thanks for the article...

kalo tak silap aku... dr pembacaan aku sejak 2 ke 3 tahun lalu

e ...
pengecatbintang Post at 2-12-2010 22:13


tonton pasal fake gold bar nih...



tu lah sebabnya aku beli gold syiling dr Bank... n brand gold yg terkenal seperti Gold Maple Leaf n Australian Nugget...

2 brand ni dijual diseluruh dunia dalam kuantiti yg banyak sejak sekian lama...

lum pernah lg mana2 pihak tampil kata ianya fake...

emas sifatnya lembut.. kalo kita tonton cerita koboi omputeh zaman dulu2

ada adegan.. gigit emas utk pastikan tulin ke tak...

so... aku penah gigit syiling maple leaf yang berbungkus plastik.. ha ha...

aku gigit sederhana kuat... dah ada kesan lekuk gigitan pd syiling tu   

Kijang Emas plak.. aku konpiden Bank Negara Mesia x tipu...

penah skali kijang emas tu jatuh atas simen... kemek skett syiling tu

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Post time 2-12-2010 10:34 PM | Show all posts
Propaganda utk jatuhkan nilai emas?
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Post time 2-12-2010 10:46 PM | Show all posts
tonton pasal fake gold bar nih...



tu lah sebabnya aku beli gold syiling dr Bank... n bran ...
pengecatbintang Post at 2-12-2010 22:21



    moral of the story untuk beli gold sahaja (tak termasuk silver) ... bagi aku ler... tak terpakai utk orang lain...

    1. aku tak beli gold bar... aku beli syiling... mgkn sukar utk fake syiling

    2. aku beli emas yang setiap unit tak melebihi 1 Ounce (31.1 gram)

    3. aku beli emas jenama terkenal dan diedar dengan banyak di seluruh dunia dan telah jual sejak sekian lama
        (bukan dari company yang macam cendawan tumbuh bila rege emas naik sejak tahun 2001)

       teori no. 3 ni tak terpakai utk Kijang Emas... he he  

       terkenal n diedar keseluruh dunia bermaksud... ada check n balance dr pembeli... dr berjuta pembeli...
       mungkin ada pembuat barang kemas yg beli utk dilebur wat emas... atau ada yg check ketulinan...

   4. beli dr Bank
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Post time 2-12-2010 11:15 PM | Show all posts
tonton pasal fake gold bar nih...

tu lah sebabnya aku beli gold syiling dr Bank... n bran ...
pengecatbintang Post at 2-12-2010 22:21


http://news.coinupdate.com/largest-private-refinery-discovers-gold-plated-tungsten-bar-0171/
Largest Private Refinery Discovers Gold-Plated Tungsten Bar

By Patrick A. Heller on March 2nd, 2010

Recently, the German television station ProSieben ran a news story covering W. C. Heraeus in Hanau, Germany, the world’s largest privately owned refinery.  In the story, Wilfried Hörner, the head of the gold foundry, shows a 500 gram bar (16.0755 troy ounces) received from an unidentified bank.  The bar had the right physical dimensions to be an authentic gold bar, but one of the Heraeus employees suspected something funny.  After the bar was cut in half, you can see that the inside is tungsten, with only a coating of gold on the outside.



You can watch this news story on You Tube, where it was posted February 28, at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKczs-7BFRI.

Last fall, Rob Kirby of Kirby Analytics in Toronto reported that China’s central bank had discovered some 400-ounce gold-plated tungsten bars among those it had recently received from bonded warehouses.  It was later learned that at least four counterfeit bars were found and that all had come from sources in the United States.  As suspicions grow about counterfeit bars among those held in bonded warehouses for delivery against either COMEX or London Bullion Market Association contracts or shares of exchange traded funds, investors could panic.  So, you can understand that there has been almost a total blackout on news coverage on this story.
Tungsten is the only lower value metal that has a specific density close enough to gold to fabricate passable counterfeit pieces of the same size and weight as genuine coins and ingots.  Over the years, there have been a few isolated reports of smaller coins and bars found to have been drilled to remove some of the gold which was replaced with tungsten.  However, it is far more profitable to fabricate larger original bars of tungsten that are then gold-plated.

Thus far, the commodity exchanges have disclaimed of any responsibility for the purity of the gold bars they are delivering against contracts.  As stories of gold-plated tungsten bars in bonded warehouses continue to appear, I expect the commodity exchanges are going to be forced to modify their business practices to provide a guaranty of purity for any bars they deliver.

The process of non-destructive testing of bars to check for counterfeits involves very expensive equipment and is time consuming.  It is beyond the means of almost all investors and coin dealers.  For maximize safety, I recommend purchasing only smaller size coins and ingots, say two ounces of gold content or less, and only deal with a company that has a lengthy track record and in-house staff expertise (unlike the bank that took in this counterfeit 500 gram bar).  If you have purchased coins and ingots from unknown sources, you may want have them checked out by an experienced independent third party.

In contrast, the last things I would want to invest in are large gold bars stored in bonded warehouses in unallocated storage.  If it turns out that the warehouse holding your bars has too many counterfeit bars in their inventory, it could go bankrupt.  That would leave holders of unallocated inventory as unsecured creditors of the bankrupt company, and not as owners of gold.
Because the existence of counterfeit gold-plated tungsten bars could have such a huge impact on the financial markets, there is a huge potential for deception and misinformation to be passed around.  Be very careful about automatically believing any story you may hear. For your own protection, it would be better to take physical possession of the smaller sizes of gold coins and bars now, and know that what you own genuine solid gold.

   

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Post time 2-12-2010 11:38 PM | Show all posts
Reply  pengecatbintang

nanti tolong update on purity of the ketulan silver yang dibeli ye..thank ...
DarkBaron Post at 2-12-2010 20:19



    aku tray weekend ni upload pics n sijil perakuan
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Post time 4-12-2010 12:22 AM | Show all posts
rasanya Gold kat UOB tu tak leh gadai kat Ar Rahnu...

mgkn sebab gold tu Syiling...

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pengecatbintang Post at 2-12-2010 10:35


ooo...camtu ek, xpe awk cek dlu kt kedai tue klu ada info bleh roger sy
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