Why a person commits suicide?

dutchy

Originally posted by SONofODIN at 11-6-2007 06:41 PM
Before a Chinese commits suicide he/she would hope for a better next life coz generally Chinese believes in reincarnation.

when u say a Chinese, its a race not a religion

A Taoist, differ in believe then a Buddhist, but  is still Chinese

correct me if am wrong

dutchy

Originally posted by SONofODIN at 11-6-2007 09:05 AM


Heard about that too. They died of heart attack, that means they regreted doing so.

what is the correlation here, between a heart attack and regrets :stp:

wei_loon5063

When you regret, you feel sorry and the blood pump faster.. so heart attact

SONofODIN

His cup of tea.

wei_loon5063

Originally posted by foundation at 11-6-2007 08:36 PM


explain the difference/s pls.... thanks

Reincarnation is not a teaching of the Buddha. In Buddhism the teaching is of rebirth, not of reincarnation.

The reincarnation idea is ito believe in a soul or a being, separate from the body. At the death of the physical body, this soul is said to move into another state and then enter a womb to be born again.

   Rebirth is different and can be explained in this way. Take away the notion of a soul or a being living inside the body; take away all ideas of self existing either inside or outside the body. Also take away notions of past, present and future; in fact take away all notions of time. Now, without reference to time and self, there can be no before or after, no beginning or ending, no birth or death, no coming or going. Yet there is life! Rebirth is the experience of life in the moment, without birth, without death; it is the experience of life which is neither eternal nor subject to annihilation.

That which is born, dies. Forms come and go. All that comes into existence is impermanent. The physical body is impermanent; it is born and it dies. But the very essence of what 'I' am - Buddha-nature - is unborn and undying.

dutchy

Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 11-6-2007 08:54 PM
When you regret, you feel sorry and the blood pump faster.. so heart attact

cissss, playing around lak dia, am serious here lah   

SONofODIN

Originally posted by dutchy at 11-6-2007 08:45 PM

when u say a Chinese, its a race not a religion

A Taoist, differ in believe then a Buddhist, but  is still Chinese

correct me if am wrong  

You mentioned certain groups. My assumption the group is Chinese. Their belief is based on Taoist.
I think most of the suicide cases are commited by the Chinese. Any stat?

SONofODIN

Originally posted by dutchy at 11-6-2007 08:46 PM

what is the correlation here, between a heart attack and regrets :stp:  

When that person regrets, fear arises and of course the heart pumps very fast which leads to heart attack.

dutchy

Originally posted by SONofODIN at 11-6-2007 09:01 PM


You mentioned certain groups. My assumption the group is Chinese. Their belief is based on Taoist.
I think most of the suicide cases are commited by the Chinese. Any stat?

hmmm...tk agree here

sat dut nk google erk, I think one of the highest cases is the Japanese

sat nk google




Out of every three cases of suicide reported every 15 minutes in India, one is committed by a youth in the age group of 15 to 29.
In the Union Territory of Pondicherry, every month at least 15 youths between the ages of 15 and 25 commit suicide.
In 2002, there were 10,982 suicides in Tamil Nadu, 11,300 in Kerala, 10,934 in Karnataka, and 9,433 in Andhra Pradesh.
In 2003, the largest number of farmers -- around 175 -- committed suicide in Andhra Pradesh.
Kerala, the country's first fully literate state, has the highest number of suicides. Some 32 people commit suicide in Kerala every day.



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dutchy

Suicide also rises in land of rising sun
By J Sean Curtin

Japan has been stricken by an epidemic of suicides cutting across all social strata and age groups, according to recently released statistics for 2003. Every day nearly 100 people take their own lives, at a rate of almost one every 15 minutes. And the long economic slump is a factor. Despite recent signs of economic recovery, the good news hasn't yet touched the lives of those who leap off buildings, hurl themselves in front of trains, apparently in droves, or hang themselves.

"All that's left are endless bankruptcies, chronic unemployment, high suicide rates and a lot of despair," one retired rural official told Asia Times Online.

Since 2003, the Aokigahara woods at the base of Mount Fuji have been known as the "suicide forest" because 78 middle-aged men apparently committed suicide by hanging themselves from tree branches. Experts cite unemployment, bankruptcies and other economic problems as major reasons for the deaths.

Some of the dominant economic factors that have contributed to the current suicide crisis include large-scale bankruptcies, increased unemployment, a sluggish business climate, accumulated debts, lower incomes, inadequate bankruptcy laws, prolonged economic stagnation, an unregulated financial loan market and corporate restructuring. Ill-health, despair and other problems plague the nation of 127 million, the world's second-biggest economy.

The total number of Japanese suicides is roughly equal to that of the entire United States, a country that has more than twice Japan's population. To put the latest data in context, in today's Japan one is roughly five times as likely to die by one's own hand as to be killed in a traffic accident.

Some cultural factors exacerbate the problem: lack of religious prohibition against suicide, reluctance to discuss mental health and stress-related problems, a literary tradition that romanticizes suicide, a view of suicide as an honorable act, a way of taking responsibility for failure, among other issues. The breakdown of family and social networks and the increasing isolation of individuals contribute to the problem.

The figures for 2003 paint an exceedingly grim picture, showing that a record 34,427 Japanese men and women took their own lives last year. According to the latest statistics from the National Police Agency (NPA), the number of suicides has increased by 7.1%, or 2,284 more lives lost than in 2002. Many people believe the long recession is a key factor behind the rise.

Especially troubling is the steep increase in the number of people in their 30s taking their own lives. The death toll for this age bracket reached 4,603, an increase of 17%, translating into 668 more cases than in the previous year.

As in other countries, men are far more likely to take their own lives than women, and men account for a staggering 73% of all suicides in Japan. Suicide by the elderly, 33.5%, and by people with financial problems, 25.8%, account for the two largest non-gender groupings. There has also been an alarming surge in the number of children committing suicide.

dutchy

Youth suicide rising
The recent sharp increase in the number of child deaths is one of the most troubling developments. It seems that almost every week there are several tragic cases involving schoolchildren either taking their own lives or being murdered by a mother or father before the despairing parent commits suicide. The number of family murder-suicides is not detailed in the current NPA figures, but news and other reports indicate their frequency is growing.

The latest NPA data confirm that suicide by elementary- and middle-school students is a serious social problem. The suicide rate for this group rose by a massive 57.6%, representing a total of 93 innocent lives lost, 34 more than in 2002. Among high-school students there was also a sharp rise of 29.3%. In total, 225 young lives were lost in this category. There was also an increase in the number of college students killing themselves. The overall suicide rate among people aged 19 or younger rose by 22%.

Experts say that young people who commit suicide are greatly influenced by adults who take their own lives and the publicity surrounding the deaths. The stress and competition in school for jobs that may no longer exist have also been documented.

Just a day before the NPA published its latest figures, the national press reported yet another tragic double suicide attempt by school friends. On this occasion, two high-school girls tried to kill themselves by jumping off the roof of a supermarket in Kashiwazaki, Niigata prefecture. One of the girls, just 15, died, while her friend, 16, survived.

Sadly, youth suicide appears to have become such a common phenomenon that it no longer grabs press attention and reports are usually consigned to the back pages of newspapers.

Hiroshi Sakamoto observed, "We only read about suicide in the press, it is never on TV. They say it is too gloomy, too dark, not a happy subject. I feel the whole country is in a state of denial. This is perhaps why we cannot solve this problem. We are trying to ignore it, but wishing it away gets us nowhere."

dutchy

dutchy

what do u guys thinks abt Euthanasia - assisted suicide

is it human or not?

wei_loon5063

Originally posted by dutchy at 11-6-2007 10:25 PM
what do u guys thinks abt Euthanasia - assisted suicide

is it human or not?

Euthanasia and PAS (physician assisted suicide) did my assignment on that.

I think it is up the choice of the individual.

wei_loon5063

Originally posted by dutchy at 11-6-2007 09:30 PM

Is it chinese? I thought Japanese and Korean are higher..... :hmm:

what is the no data country in between China and Russia.. mongolia or kazastan?

From what blastoff posted... it is Canada that has the highest rate...

SONofODIN

Originally posted by dutchy at 11-6-2007 09:19 PM

hmmm...tk agree here

sat dut nk google erk, I think one of the highest cases is the Japanese

I was refering to Malaysians.

SONofODIN

Originally posted by dutchy at 11-6-2007 10:25 PM
what do u guys thinks abt Euthanasia - assisted suicide

is it human or not?

I think it is humane provided the dying person is suffering from an unbearer painful disease or someone who is in coma with no hope of regaining conciousness.

SONofODIN

Posting here kelam kabut pulak.:gila:

dutchy

Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 12-6-2007 12:42 AM



Euthanasia and PAS (physician assisted suicide) did my assignment on that.

I think it is up the choice of the individual.

is it ? why is is still consider as taboo in certain country

me too thinks like u and son, if the pain is unbearable and there is no more hope medically and
the patient is suffering, it it humane to keep them going on?   

dutchy

data from 2002