Suami selalu transfer duit kepada isteri pun dah tak selamat

monreyes

Claudia_Lestat replied at 16-5-2024 04:54 PM
kalau kecik camno nak selit takkan kat spenda plak

kat strap dia dik

chandrahusin

betul ni, semua org pun dh tak boleh percaya skrg
kawan baik ke laki ke bini ke adik beradik ke
klu dia park duit kat akaun kita
tau2 duit entah dr mana
manusia ni psl duit apa pun sanggup
cuma bank ptt lebih clear berapa limit transaction

whimsicalmusic

each bank ade monitoring tools yg akan monitor based on duit masuk n keluar. ade different2 scenario. contoh scenario dlm seminggu ade everyday duit masuk amount same or lebih kurang, so diorg akan trigger kt monitoring system. lepas tu analyst kena investigate. kalo suspicious dia akan inform to bnm as Suspicious Transaction Report. then BNM akan take over la. kalo mcm komen lain ckp everymonth transfer ke akaun spouse, kalo cth 500 setiap 25hb, detail sama, most likely xkan trigger system. tp kalo titibe korg transfer 500k out of the blue, yes system akan trigger n diorg kena investigate

Tinot7

annehuda replied at 16-5-2024 04:10 AM
Bodohla bank ni. Ye paham jangan jadi keldai akaun, tapi takkanla sesama keluarga pun tak boleh nk t ...

Ada sesetengah menda yg trigger.. bkn semua..

EXAMPLES OF SUSPICIOUS TRANSACTIONS
Examples of suspicious transactions are listed below. The list is non exhaustive and only provides examples of ways in which money may be laundered through the capital market.

Unusual Transactions
Buying and selling of a security with no discernible purpose or in circumstances which appear unusual.
The intensity of transactions for an inactive trading account suddenly increases without plausible reason.
The entry of matching buys and sells in particular securities, creating an illusion of trading. Such trading does not result in a bona fide market position, and might provide ‘cover’ for a money launderer.
Unusually short period of holding securities.
Frequent selling of securities at significant losses.
Structuring transactions to evade substantial shareholding.
Simultaneous transfer of funds to a group of customers’ accounts from a third party
[Updated 21/4/2014]

Large Cash Transactions
Larger or unusual settlements of securities transactions in cash form.
Opening of trading accounts with large cash sum (above RM 50,000).
The crediting of a customer’s margin account using cash and by means of numerous credit slips by a customer such that the amount of each deposit is not substantial, but the total of which is substantial.
Depositing large cash amounts in the reporting institution’s multiple bank accounts in the same day
[Updated 21/4/2014]

Transactions Incompatible with Customer’s Financial Standing
A customer who suddenly starts making investments in large amounts when it is known to the Reporting Institution that the customer does not have the capacity to do so.
Transactions that cannot be matched with the investment and income levels of the customer.
Requests by customers for investment management services (either foreign currency or securities) where the source of the funds is unclear or not consistent with the customer’s apparent standing.

Irregular Account Movement
In a situation where multiple accounts are used to transfer funds between accounts by generating offsetting losses and profits in different accounts.
Abnormal settlement instructions including payment to apparently unconnected parties.
Non-resident account with very large movement with subsequent fund transfers to offshore financial centers.
A client who authorizes fund transfer from his account to another client’s account.
A client whose account indicates large or frequent wire transfer and sums are immediately withdrawn.
A client whose account shows active movement of funds with low level of trading transactions.

Suspicious Behaviour/Demeanour
A customer for whom verification of identity proves unusually difficult and who is reluctant to provide details.
A group of unconnected customers who share a common correspondence address.
A client who shows unusual concern for secrecy e.g. in the identify of beneficial owner of the account, his employment/business or assets or fails to indicate a legitimate source of funds.

Dealing with High Risk Jurisdictions
Investors based in countries where production of drugs or drug trafficking may be prevalent.
Funds credited into customer accounts from and to countries associated with
the production, processing or marketing of narcotics or other illegal drugs; or
other criminal conduct; or
wire transfer to or from a banking secrecy-haven country or country generally known for money laundering and terrorist financing.

Suspicious Behaviour/Demeanour by an Employees of the Reporting Institution
There may be circumstances where the money laundering may involve employees of Reporting Institution. Hence, if there is a change in the employees’ characteristics e.g. lavish lifestyles, unexpected increase in performance, etc. the Reporting Institution may want to monitor such situations.

Source:
https://www.sc.com.my/regulation/guidelines/amla/examples-of-suspicious-transactions

Tinot7

otai_g replied at 16-5-2024 09:40 AM
Abes tu kalo penyewa rumah bayar sewa rumah dgn transfer duit setiap Bulan x kan nak termasuk sekali ...

Baper sewa ni?

green~tea

Kalo jenis big amount and kerap keluar masuk ke apa.. ko bagitau je la bank tu ko nak bukak account jenis tu.. personal current account nama nya..  usually for premium customer...

Ko nak transfer juta2 pun buleh, ratus2 ribu pun boleh.. and dia kena isi borang, soal jawab... tunjuk income.. masa bukak akaun tu

Tp biasanya bukan kita la tanya bank.. bank yang tanya kita nak ke tidak..


Lagi satu account bisnes... boleh keluar masuk amount byk...

Suchi

kotakbaju replied at 16-5-2024 09:36 AM
Macam mana buleh suspect  kerap transfer ke dalam iumlah yang besar? Kalau tiap2 bulan transfer  ...

Tu la tuh adoi dahla tiap bulan transfer tuk bayar bil utiliti bagai nih
Sbb lagi mudah guna mae berbanding apps rhb tu sbb tu tiap bulan transfer ke acc maybank isteri je
Dah mmg biasanya isteri yg uruskan kewangan keluarga.

Suchi

Claudia_Lestat replied at 16-5-2024 02:46 PM
ada baca kat FB semalam, surirumah nak bukak acc bank tp bank x bagi sebab takde keperluan. so surir ...

Sbb tu kalau yg mana penah keje dan ada buat acc bank masa keje tuk terima gaji tu pastikan acc tu kekal aktif.
Kadang kesian tgk yg nak membeli kat tt shop bagai merayu seller nk cod sbb dorang takde acc bank.
Penting weh ada acc bank ni walau surirumah zaman ni semua urusan byk guna online banking.

misc

hyie replied at 16-5-2024 01:44 PM
tak, yang meols faham cenggini.

ada sorang membe kita ni mintak tolong "Eh nyah, bleh tak meols n ...

Ooo ok, Tq sis bagi pencerahan.

BiniBoy

hyie replied at 16-5-2024 01:44 PM
tak, yang meols faham cenggini.

ada sorang membe kita ni mintak tolong "Eh nyah, bleh tak meols n ...

Good example! Ada kes anak bagi bapak pakai account dia sebab bapak ada business travelling agencies kecik2 tapi customer dr luar. Duit2 masuk dr overseas. Anak then transfer to bapak. Kes mcm ni memang akan trigger Transaction Monitoring analyst kat bank2.

1. Rapid incoming funds from overseas
2. Funds transferred out immediately after funds received
3. Possible tax evasion
4. Kalau duit tu large amount, system akan trigger lak large amount, depending on the system punya parameter yg setiap bank masuk, contoh - incoming/outcoming fund >RM50k/txn or total >RM300K/day.

Impactnya, bank2 akan report to bnm. Pastu kena investigate pastu kena freeze account.

Kalau mcm kes transfer among family members utk belanja biasa2 biasanya tak trigger.

pocongkiutss

Mcm bodo je..abistu org yg join dropship tu camne pulak

Keldai akaun tu bukan ke lain konsepnya

Samerosie

Claudia_Lestat replied at 16-5-2024 02:46 PM
ada baca kat FB semalam, surirumah nak bukak acc bank tp bank x bagi sebab takde keperluan. so surir ...

Kalau dia pergi bank rimau ngan sotong mmg leceh dia x kasi buka.  Easier kalau dia call bank dulu tanya rhb ke affin ke.
The other way is to open joint bank acc.  Tapi suami jgn menyibuk guna atau check la biar bini je guna. I pergi bank sotong nak buka joint acc dia x kasi sbb husband foreigner i pergi hsbc tak de masalah sbb dia kata asalkan bukti suami isteri.

Claudia_Lestat

Suchi replied at 18-5-2024 07:48 AM
Sbb tu kalau yg mana penah keje dan ada buat acc bank masa keje tuk terima gaji tu pastikan acc tu ...

Aku syukur dah lah sbb berlambak akaun ada walaupun duitnya takde ahahaha..
Tapi bila baca org bank cakap surirumah takde keperluan bukak acc tu tu aku mcm kenapa kata takde keperluan. Takkan org tu x nak simpan duit. Zaman skang plak banyak benda dah cashless. Pi hosp nak bayar singgit lima hengget pun x blh cash dah so mana yg takde keperluan tu.

Bank bank pun mcm x updated banyak dah jabatan kat gov mcm hosp jpj cashless skang.

Tinot7

Claudia_Lestat replied at 16-5-2024 02:46 PM
ada baca kat FB semalam, surirumah nak bukak acc bank tp bank x bagi sebab takde keperluan. so surir ...

Rasanya kena akaun supplementary bawah somi sbb surirumah takde credit trail, melainkan dia mmg buat bisnes kecik2 kat umah..

Sblm kawen, takkan tak pernah bukak akaun? Kecik2 makpak tak bg duit? Blajaq kolej uni bagai, duit ptptn masuk celah mana? Ka bini prc cainadoll, ka bini indon loves somi injiniur gaji 5k, ka bini babu somi jusa c minus, yg masuk mesia takde akaun, tiber nak bukak sbb somi nak bg duit bulan2?

Tinot7

green~tea replied at 18-5-2024 07:27 AM
Kalo jenis big amount and kerap keluar masuk ke apa.. ko bagitau je la bank tu ko nak bukak account  ...

Akaun mcm tu, bank dah siap interview.. so tak trigger suspicious activity.. ni yg ikan bilis tiba2 ada duit kluaq masuk puloh2 riban yg trigger system..

Tinot7

Samerosie replied at 18-5-2024 09:22 AM
Kalau dia pergi bank rimau ngan sotong mmg leceh dia x kasi buka.  Easier kalau dia call bank dulu ...

Hsbc bkn lokal.. so deme tak kisah..
Bank lokal yg kena hati2 extra..

Claudia_Lestat

Samerosie replied at 18-5-2024 09:22 AM
Kalau dia pergi bank rimau ngan sotong mmg leceh dia x kasi buka.  Easier kalau dia call bank dulu ...

Aik husband foreigner pun x bleh ke join acc ingat personal saving je. Tapi pengalaman aku uruskan bukak saving acc utk boss aku warga jepun ni bila dia dah start nak amek gaji dgn bank rimau mmg lama walaupun kampeni acc nama boss aku. Officer bgtau diaorg kena dptkan pengesahan dr Immigresen dulu. Kes boss aku Immi tak reply² so pending x boleh bukak bukak akaun dia lebih sebulan sampai BM diaorg sendiri kena guna budi bicara. Immi tak reply yg kelakar bila nak renew working permit kena tunjuk penggajian kat diaorg.

Claudia_Lestat

Tinot7 replied at 18-5-2024 10:00 AM
Rasanya kena akaun supplementary bawah somi sbb surirumah takde credit trail, melainkan dia mmg bu ...

Entahlah tinot. Iols mmg ada dah akaun bank dr belajar dulu start dgn bsn pastu memacamlah hahaha...

Tapi simpati dgr surirumah² susah nak bukak account bank sendiri dgn alasan takde keperluan tu. Mana mana yg bukan bisnes tu elok ada akaun dgn TH ke ASB ke . Kot nak guna duit boleh kuor kat ctr nak tfr online x boleh sbb takde bank akaun.

ninajaybee

Guna BigPay, atau Wise dsb lah kalau setakat amaun kecil2 ribu raban je. Surirumah boleh je ada semua ni. ewallet ke kalau amaun ciput.  

_blackbird

Samerosie replied at 16-5-2024 07:49 AM
Apa limit amaun? Kalau tiap2 hari 30k 50k transfer tu patut la suspicious tapi setakat nak tolong be ...

kalau stakat transfer once in while anomaly amount takda masalah pon. ni yg bnm maksudkan suspcious aktiviti, active duit keluar masuk, sehari berpuluh2 transaction yg suspicous, every duit transfer tu ada trace tau, sistem tau je duit yg sama tu dah berapa kali ke sana ke sini ke mari. ermmm lagi pon acc saving mmg ada limit utk transfer / received. org yg byk cash selalu keluar masuk duit byk ni akan pakai current acc.