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Post time 2-2-2009 08:41 PM | Show all posts
No.
What i mean is
128 AMRAAM C7 is barely enough to equip 12 f-15s and 70+ f-16s


Ok. But you only have 18 Sukhois. They rest can be desptached with Amraam C-5s.
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 Author| Post time 2-2-2009 08:42 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by belacan79 at 2-2-2009 08:35 PM

...the F15SGs AESAs are better radars(you are using older PESAs); inclusive of high end Israel jammers. SG`s F16 clk 50/52 carry jamming equipment from Elisra. Eespecially SG`s F16 "spines".

So what ? AESA radar is just radar. Not a jammer.
And as for israeli jammers, they are all crap
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 Author| Post time 2-2-2009 08:45 PM | Show all posts
Dude I already told you
it was reported by Perajurit magazine.

Originally posted by belacan79 at 2-2-2009 08:37 PM


But you have no proof of the R-27 AE yet. What if i tell you SG has secretly bought Amraam 120-D with a range in excess of 165km-180km ? Dont know then dont say.
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Post time 2-2-2009 08:47 PM | Show all posts
No matter how well prepared Singapore is for an attack they still can't tell for sure when exactly a surprise Malaysian attack will occur. Thats why even at any given time a large portion of singaporean frontline fighters will still be on the ground. A pre emptive strike by Malaysia will obliterate all runways to prevent anymore Singaporean planes from taking off. Those already in the air may not be carrying suitable missiles for that particular situation. Some will also be already running low on fuel. And they will have to face the entire malaysian air force with these shortcomings. Given that Singaporean chances of beating Malaysia with 100% of their air force is already razor thin, what hope is there for a much smaller force defeating the Malaysian air force oslaught ? None whatsoever.


Hehehe. Let`s put it this way. If Sg moblize, you will know. If you mobilise, we will know. We will know about your planes taking off from Gong Kedak, Butterworth dan Kuantan long before your own residents know. We are neighbours and we are physically too close. And at the end of the day, no one is going to luanch a suprise attack because we are too close and our economies too heavily linked. Tensions leading to war can only happen over a period of time. so, peace bro. It`s better that way. It`s also better to see Sg as a powerful ally who you can depend upon. Seen your own checkered military procurement? Heartache? Sg is there to lend you a hand.
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Post time 2-2-2009 08:51 PM | Show all posts
China pulak mcmmana..?.back to the topic plissss......
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Post time 2-2-2009 08:51 PM | Show all posts
So what ? AESA radar is just radar. Not a jammer.
And as for israeli jammers, they are all crap


No. AESA radars and even normal but modern/latest mechanical but multi-mode radars(found in F16s) can do a lot more things. One of them is jamming. If you consider how large and powerful the Phalcon AESA radar is, you must certainly consider what a poweful jammer it is at the same time. Here read this;

http://defense-update.com/features/du-1-07/feature_aesaradar.htm

The latest AESA radars developed by the US can burn through enemy radar systems and planes at long range. Go google for the links. I kid you not. It is the latest form of electronic attack; like invisible lazers. Search for it. If i have time, ill put the link here.

Sure..Israeli jammers are crap. Tell the arabs that.
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Post time 2-2-2009 08:53 PM | Show all posts
Dude I already told you
it was reported by Perajurit magazine.


I ask for official govermental sources. Not a private magazine with its own readership base to cater to.
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 Author| Post time 2-2-2009 08:55 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by belacan79 at 2-2-2009 08:41 PM


Ok. But you only have 18 Sukhois. They rest can be desptached with Amraam C-5s.

Huh, even F-15s armed with C7s will struggle against the Su-30MKM.
Aircrafts armed with C5s can also be looked upon as fllying coffins. Haha
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Post time 2-2-2009 08:55 PM | Show all posts
Kalau tak boleh kenapa Malaysia ada amraam ?


Something you should ask your politicians.
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Post time 2-2-2009 08:57 PM | Show all posts
Huh, even F-15s armed with C7s will struggle against the Su-30MKM. Aircrafts armed with C5s can also be looked upon as fllying coffins. Haha


to the contrary, the faster moving and more agile missile together with the inherent ability to re-acquire targets time will be a nightmare, not just to the Su-30s, but any jet. And seriously, you do not want to have a head-on encounter with a modern air to air missile of any type. Haha. let`s see who will become the flying coffins in the end.

[ Last edited by  belacan79 at 2-2-2009 08:58 PM ]
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 Author| Post time 2-2-2009 09:05 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by belacan79 at 2-2-2009 08:47 PM

Hehehe. Let`s put it this way. If Sg moblize, you will know. If you mobilise, we will know. We will know about your planes taking off from Gong Kedak, Butterworth dan Kuantan long before your own residents know. We are neighbours and we are physically too close. And at the end of the day, no one is going to luanch a suprise attack because we are too close and our economies too heavily linked. Tensions leading to war can only happen over a period of time. so, peace bro. It`s better that way. It`s also better to see Sg as a powerful ally who you can depend upon. Seen your own checkered military procurement? Heartache? Sg is there to lend you a hand.
Our fighters could take off just when our artillery starts shelling your runways. No problem.
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Post time 2-2-2009 09:11 PM | Show all posts
You need to pluck them out of the craters before you can 'sweep' them away.



What craters? you need runaway bombs like paveways(that is why they were created in the first place) to damage runaways not HE projectiles or enlarged grenades that will simply explode and leave debris over the runaway;which again will be swept away by runaway clearing vehicles. Of course, this is assuming that the rockets are not shot down first which an almost certainty considering how dumb they are.

[quote]Can you name one war theatre where artillery shells and 慸umb rockets
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 Author| Post time 2-2-2009 09:14 PM | Show all posts
Really ? Wow. Too bad they are defenseless against Kh-31 missiles
Originally posted by belacan79 at 2-2-2009 08:51 PM

No. AESA radars and even normal but modern/latest mechanical but multi-mode radars(found in F16s) can do a lot more things. One of them is jamming. If you consider how large and powerful the Phalcon AESA radar is, you must certainly consider what a poweful jammer it is at the same time. Here read this;

http://defense-update.com/features/du-1-07/feature_aesaradar.htm

The latest AESA radars developed by the US can burn through enemy radar systems and planes at long range. Go google for the links. I kid you not. It is the latest form of electronic attack; like invisible lazers. Search for it. If i have time, ill put the link here.

Sure..Israeli jammers are crap. Tell the arabs that.


Arabs never had Su-30s equipped with electronically scanned radar.

And as for your 揂ESA jammers
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Post time 2-2-2009 09:17 PM | Show all posts
Our fighters could take off just when our artillery starts shelling your runways. No problem.


You mean you do not want to mobilize for war ? Get your army and navy ready for a counter-attack..prepare for an invasion..bla.. bla.. And just open fire using your rockets? War is serious business. Preparations cannot be hidden between neighbours. This is where SG excels; in mobilizaing faster and first strike capabilities; enough to give knock-out punches. Anyway, we have fighters on standby in the air to kill your artillery(come on..a single F16C has 9 hardpoints for missiles and bombs, etc), Himars and our own artillery and others ready to take off from alternative runaways. Of course, I am anticipating your Astross rockets to be shot down first.

[ Last edited by  belacan79 at 2-2-2009 09:18 PM ]
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 Author| Post time 2-2-2009 09:20 PM | Show all posts
Anti radiation missile seekers canot be jammed.
Originally posted by belacan79 at 2-2-2009 09:11 PM

And how you expect to shoot at our radars when you are being jammed and shot first ? And we do not need all the radars to be online at the same time; that is we have redundancy.



No problem .We can destroy the ones which are operating first. Then we wait until the replacement radars are turned on and attack them as well
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Post time 2-2-2009 09:23 PM | Show all posts
[quote]Really ? Wow. Too bad they are defenseless against Kh-31 missiles

QUOTE:
Originally posted by belacan79 at 2-2-2009 08:51 PM

No. AESA radars and even normal but modern/latest mechanical but multi-mode radars(found in F16s) can do a lot more things. One of them is jamming. If you consider how large and powerful the Phalcon AESA radar is, you must certainly consider what a poweful jammer it is at the same time. Here read this;

http://defense-update.com/features/du-1-07/feature_aesaradar.htm

The latest AESA radars developed by the US can burn through enemy radar systems and planes at long range. Go google for the links. I kid you not. It is the latest form of electronic attack; like invisible lazers. Search for it. If i have time, ill put the link here.

Sure..Israeli jammers are crap. Tell the arabs that.




Arabs never had Su-30s equipped with electronically scanned radar.

And as for your 揂ESA jammers
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Post time 2-2-2009 09:26 PM | Show all posts
Anti radiation missile seekers canot be jammed.

QUOTE:
Originally posted by belacan79 at 2-2-2009 09:11 PM

And how you expect to shoot at our radars when you are being jammed and shot first ? And we do not need all the radars to be online at the same time; that is we have redundancy.





No problem .We can destroy the ones which are operating first. Then we wait until the replacement radars are turned on and attack them as well


Im not sure anti-radiation missiles cannot be jammed but they can be fooled. Also, Sg wont be jamming your missiles only silly. But your Su-30s; the planes carrying your KH-31s. So, any proof you have Kh-31? And you cannot destroy our radars when you cant see them because of jamming but most importantly because your Su-30s are too busy trying to fight off the entire RSAF.
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 Author| Post time 2-2-2009 09:32 PM | Show all posts
Face it dude. There are no weapons that抯 capable of intercepting 慸umb rockets
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 Author| Post time 2-2-2009 09:38 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by belacan79 at 2-2-2009 09:17 PM

You mean you do not want to mobilize for war ? Get your army and navy ready for a counter-attack..prepare for an invasion..bla.. bla.. And just open fire using your rockets? War is serious business. Preparations cannot be hidden between neighbours.

Yes it can
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Post time 2-2-2009 09:39 PM | Show all posts

What kind of dumb question is this ?
Artilleries have wheels. They are all designed for mobility. Figure it out !


And therein lies the problem. They need to move They will be seen.

And what is so difficult about finding a clear space to start firing ?

As I said previously. No radars, infra red and laser can detect objects hidden beneath the Metrokoats camouflage and coatings


It is not about finding a clear space to shoot. It`s the time to move, take off camo, finding that space and prepare to shoot, dis-engage and scoot and re-arm again. It takes a lot of time. It just takes seconds for fighter to shoot and it takes a whole less time for counter artillery Himars and normal artillery to shoot back.

Also, it remains to be seen if your Metrokoat or whatever can safely hide itself from the latest phased array radars. I havent read about it and I will.


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Sejak bila pulak laporan oleh majalah persendirian tak boleh diterima ?
Kalau ikut 憄eraturan
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