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mengikut cerita orang2 tua kuala kangsar iaitu tempat dimana terletaknya istana sultan perak.. aruah PR diharamkan jejak kaki ke tanah PERAK (seperti buang negeri) selepas dia berkahwin dengan aruah norizan. memang sampai ke tua PR tak masuk negeri PERAK..
yang masuk kuar PERAK ialah JINS SHAMSUDDIN. siap dia ada umah sebijik kat Kuala Kangsar. Aku sendiri masa kekecik dulu pernah nampak Jins bawak keter sport ronda2 bukit chandan n pekan kuala. |
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Reply tokapi
lagu ni ada kaitan dengan jalan cerita gelora tu
p.ramlee nak ngorat staf dia yg ...
iscol_klang Post at 6-11-2010 14:59
Oh mcm tu ke... tp tak rasa lirik tu cam ade persamaan ke ngan citer dia ngn norizan..
anyways, kalu ade citer gelora tu, upload la mana2 ek... nak tgk la... |
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Reply 544# kebayan
kat dokumentari tu ada ckp p.ramlee x jejak perak sehinggalah sultan yusof mangkat...pada tahun 1962 kalo x silap.
jins shamsudin tu kan org perak...tentunya dia keluar masuk balik kampung...
speku, siapakah yang dimaksudkan oleh anwardi jamil ini?
Looking at his last few films, you would have not believed that Ramlee was 44 years old. He looked older. That's how depressed and sad he was during his final years.
I think I have mentioned in one of my earlier postings how he struggled to make ends meet during his final years. He was unwanted, he was criticised, he was condemned and he was discarded by the public. The same public that hold him in high esteem today.
His last few films were not really good because he was a depressed person . He was unhappy with his lot in life. He wasn't rich. Heck, he was broke. He even borrowed from his closest friends when he needed money and gave them some of his personal items as collateral.
There were even people in RTM who didn't like him. Some even hated him. A few who were jealous of his talent, thought that they were better than him and did their best to make life difficult for him to get gigs on TV.
He tried to become a film producer and met a few investors who were interested in helping him out. But unfortunately he passed away before his dream to be a film producer was realised.
The foundation that he had laid for himself was conveniently taken over by someone he had not trusted in his life and someone who had gone on to become rich and powerful. I will not mention who this person is.
The story of P. Ramlee's departure from Jalan Ampas to Merdeka wasn't fully exposed. One has to know about the politics that existed during the last years of Jalan Ampas and the role the union played. Find out who the President of Persama was at that time. Find out who orchestrated P. Ramlee's fall and departure from Singapore. It was implied but people should know how P. Ramlee was prevented from producing his first colour movie through PERFIMA. The documentary did to its credit show that P. Ramlee was victimised left right and center, not only by people who could have helped him in his career, but also by the public. Why was he vilified so? A genius who fell from grace during the height of his creative days. Why was it difficult for him to even get a regular gig on RTM? Why was the journalists of that time giving him a hard time? All these question begged to be answered. Yes it was a tragedy, but the tragedy is compounded by us wondering why we forgot the man and only after he died did all the accolades come pouring in. Heck, a road was named after him. While he died when he was 44 (which was already untimely) he was pushed aside when he was in his late thirties. |
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lagi dalam komennya...
Siapa dalang di Jalan Ampas yang mengapi-api majikan Malay Filem Productions hingga Shaw menjadi menyampah dan menutup studio itu? Kenapa P. Ramlee membawa diri ke Kuala Lumpur? Adakah benarkan Ho Ah Loke yang telah putus asa dengan industri filem Melayu sampai sanggup membuang negatif filem-filem klasik Cathay Keris ke dalam laut, terdesak mempelawa P. Ramlee ke Hulu Kelang? Siapakan pula anak watan yang cuba menghidupkan kembali filem tempatan setelah Merdeka Studios tutup? Bukan Jins Shamsuddin tetapi Deddy M Borhan bersama Dato Aziz Sattar |
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nak jugak tahu sape Anwardi Jamil n Nasir P.Ramlee maksudkan itu.. |
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Reply 541# iscol_klang
Entahnyakan iscol_klang...dah ditunjukkan bukti bergambar cukup byk antara p.ramlee dan Yusnor Ef tu termasuk saat p.ramlee dikebumikan pun ada gambar yusnor ef tu tp ada jugak yang pertikaikan siapa Yusnor Ef.
Yusnor Ef kenang jasa gurunya sanggup terbitkan bermacam2 program utk kenalkan siapa gurunya dimata masyarakat. Aku pun dah baca buku P.Ramlee Yang saya Kenal oleh Yusnor Ef dan Bapaku P.Ramlee oleh Nasir P.Ramlee. Dari bacaan daripada 2 buku yg berbeza, jelas membuktikan Yusnor Ef yg dipanggil cikgu oleh Nasir ni ialah anak murid p.ramlee.
Aku rasa para pembuat doku kena start buat siapa p.ramlee ni sementara orang2 yg sezaman dengan beliau masih lagi hidup. Seniman dan seniwati jalan ampas berapa aje yg tinggal trmasuk lah di studio merdeka tu. Bayangkan generasi artis 80an pun dah berumur 40an dan 50an. Inikan pulak generasi p.ramlee. rebutlah peluang interbiu dengan sesiapa sahaja yang pernah terlibat baik dalam muzik ataupun filem dengan p.ramlee samada yg rapat atau pun tidak dengan beliau. Interbiu dan catatan itu penting sebagai rujukan generasi selepas ini. Kalau tidak dibuat doku dan catatan dari pelbagai aspek, tak heran generasi 'matrix' akan datang akan mempertikaikan sumbangan p.ramlee mcm orang kita suka mempertikaikan hero melayu dalam sejarah seperti Hang Tuah. |
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saya juga ada membaca p ramlee juga menggemarkan minuman whisky
Vokuro Post at 6-11-2010 13:43
Tak de yang pelik pun kalau dia minum whisky , bukannnya dia sorang ja , , bahkan sorang sahabat P.Ramlee selamba ja minum kat sebuah kedai kopi cina depan orang ramai lalu lalang yang ni aku tengok sendiri
tapi zaman dulu kalau artis tu tak minum itu baru le pelik ssikit, ada la kut dua tiga orang yang tak minum
cthnya Arwah Mahmood June |
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Reply 550# cm_matjawasp
   sapa? |
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Post Last Edit by nazurah at 6-11-2010 17:25
Reply 549# che-cikL
yusnor EF kah?
And those whom I personally know hated him are suddenly calling him guru lah, mentor lah, lover lah, friend lah and many other labels. If he was still alive, he would have told them off.
The truth it, Ramlee was a very private man. He had few friends. So too his wife Saloma. They had friends - close friends. Amongst them were my father, my mother and Dato Aziz Sattar. People that he was really close to. People that he trusted.
Even Saloma's relatives who claim to be close to him were really not. Heck, they weren't even close to her.
One person I believe has made a lot of money claiming to be an authority on P.Ramlee and Jalan Ampas when he was just a former tutor to one of his sons. |
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Aku tak tau la kenapa akhir akhir ada dua tiga seniman benci ngan Yusno Eff, dulu masa dia buat buku tak da la seniman seniman ni dok pertikai
tapi bila dia dapat banyak slot dari Astro ? mula la pong pang sana sini kononnya dia tak berhak mengaku anak murid P.Ramlee , menumpang populariti P.Ramlee , masa aku tengok slot dia kat Astro dapatlah juga sikit sebanyak info pasal seniman silam , Yusnor eff pun ada la juga buat lirik lagu lagu yang popular bukannya lekeh sangat
Adakah depa jealous pasal dia masyuuk kut ? wallahuaklambisawwab |
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Reply 553# cm_matjawasp
sy rasa dari dulu lagi yusnor ef ni dah buat kisah tentang p.ramlee dan disiarkan di tv singapura... |
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ingat x scene dlm mr bean's holiday. masa tuh mr bean thot pompuan yg tgh brlakun dlm iklan tuh betul2 dlm kesusahan so dia pun rushed pi selamatkan pompuan tuh dari kena tembak pd hal pompuan tu tgh shooting pilim smpi director naik angin. p.ramlee dh buat adegan nie dlm pilim seniman bujang lapok. w/pun x sama tp serupa. n kebetulan. |
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ingat x scene dlm mr bean's holiday. masa tuh mr bean thot pompuan yg tgh brlakun dlm iklan tuh betu ...
danna09 Post at 6-11-2010 18:53
Ada dua tiga scen filem P.Ramlee yang ideanya dari flem luar tapi dia memang kreatif , kalau hangpa tengok adegan dia bertinju dengan m.zain dlm filem nasib labu labi ada adegan M.Zain gigit telinga dia, ada tak peninju waktu tu yang gigit telinga?tak lojik kan
tapi tengok 40 tahun lepas tu bila Mike Tyson betul betul gigit telinga Evander Holyfield, memang berlaku..
aku dok berseloroh ngan keluarga , "mike Tyson ni giigit telinga pasal dia tengok citer nasib Labu Labi" |
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aku tak tgk lg documentari pasal p.ramlee ni, tp aku ade tgk documentari pasal dr.porntip..
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Reply 557# shahx
skang tgh ulang kat astro 555 |
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tak silap hakulah yusnor ef nih pernah tulis lirik lagu pr kannker aku yg salah.. |
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apa kata M. Nasir boleh ikut jejak p ramlee tak? versatile talent tu.... boleh menyanyi, boleh main muzik, boleh tulis muzik, boleh tulis skrip, boleh mengarah film, boleh berlakun.... jangan hilang satu lagi khazanah yang masih hidup.... |
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alamak.. takde astro la pulak sini...
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apa kata M. Nasir boleh ikut jejak p ramlee tak? versatile talent tu.... boleh menyanyi, boleh main ...
kupia Post at 6-11-2010 19:43
dekat dekat dah tu, cuma M.Nasir tak leh jadi pelawak, lepas tu dia baru kahwin 2 kali ,
kalau tiga kali dah hampir sangat dahh sorry gurau ja |
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