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Edisi lebai PAS menipu - Simpan kitab Bukhari di rumah, selamat dari pencuri!!
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katowjo replied at 14-4-2018 09:46 AM
biasalah puak ni ..benda2 gitu dia paksa kita "wajib" percaya...tapi dia clasifikasikan sebagai "t ...
Sam dah bagi jawapan bodo dia (seperti biasa). Ayat simple dan direct gitu pun dia pi konar celah mana dalam hadis tu kata Nabi Muhammad pedo. Ko tak rasa nak tepuk dahi baca jawapan sebegitu? Sama macam dia konar kunon dalam Bible, Jesus takda ngaku Tuhan. Gila punya lobai. |
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Siapa? @sam1528 itu ka? Bukan sahaja jawapan dia bodoh, soalan dia pon bodoh! Kesana kemari bertanya soalan "Kenapa katowjo dan Dwdrum mengatakan bahawa lelaki tua yang teransang nafsu sexualnya dengan budak pompuan berumur 6 tahun adalah seorang Paedophile?"
Lepas tu lagi bongok dia tanya lagi " Kenapa lari dari menjawab soalan?" hahahahahahahaha
Lepas tu dia claim semua forumners dekat board sendu kagum dengan hujah dia....hahahahahaha
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silap besar PAS ambil Ustaz Fawwaz ni jadi calon. aku mmg tak gemar ustaz2 tahyul mcm ni. tapi aku lebih suka Wan Azizah kalah di permatang pauh. kita pilih mudarat kecil berbading mudarat besar klu keluarga anwar (keluarga penipu) jadi pemerintah. |
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Jauh sangat konar dah sembang dalam ni.. point utamanya.. apa significant simpan kitab dalam rumah, kereta, kandang kuda, kedai boleh elak pencuri...? Nabi bersabda melarang al quran sebagai hiasan dan dikuatiri percaya sebagai pendinding kerana al quran itu untuk di baca dan diamalkan...
Ajaran sesat mana yg dah merasuk ulama pas ni.. |
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Hmmm .... kat mana hadith tersebut kata Nabi Muhammad(saw) paedophile?
Apa definisi medikal paedophilia?
hahahhah..ni je la duk ulang and ulang and ulang.
agaknye kena ade hadith yang bagi medikal term and kata sebut perkataan "pedo" terang2 baru leh kata orang tua have seks ngan budak 9 tahun dikira pedo dan perbuatan keji...
ade lak hadis yang bapa ecah tak berapa setuju nak bagi anaknye 6tahun kawin ngan pakcik umur 50 tahun tu..nampak benor kerja gila khen..tapi pakcik tu totap bertegas nak jugak budak 6 tahun tu...prrrftthhh..berkenan gila kat budak kecik...tapi ape kan daya..dalam hadis tu takde medikal term and perkataan "pedo"..jadi bagi sam and lobai..its ok dan laeeeennn laeeennn
ps:aku ingatkan nak contest kesahihan hades atau moral si nabi..rupanye contest medikal terms and hadis tak sebut spesifik perkataan "pedo" je...jadi ape yang sam achieve?still tua 50 tahun bertegas nak kawin budak 6 tahun waluapun bapak budak teragak2 dan tak mahu..prrfthhhh...
apa orang panggil orang tua berkenan(in a sexual way) kat budak 6 tahun?..ape medikal terms?bwhahahaah |
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tehehehe..memang menarik si bukhari yang disanjung2 lobai...lagi menarik kisah seks si solomon ni..tapi cam biasa..bila bicara depa marah..bila tak caya depa marah juga..kalau tak caya kitab bukhari dan hadeeesss2...depa sentap...mau gila dibuatnye
ni citer dia
Sahih al-Bukhari Book 62 Hadith 169
Narrated Abu Huraira:
(The Prophet) Solomon son of (the Prophet) David said, "Tonight I will go round (i.e. have sexual relations with) one hundred women (my wives) everyone of whom will deliver a male child who will fight in Allah's Cause." On that an Angel said to him, "Say: 'If Allah will.' " But Solomon did not say it and forgot to say it. Then he had sexual relations with them but none of them delivered any child except one who delivered a half person. The Prophet said, "If Solomon had said: 'If Allah will,' Allah would have fulfilled his (above) desire and that saying would have made him more hopeful."
Sahih al-Bukhari Book 78 Hadith 634
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "(The Prophet) Solomon once said, 'Tonight I will sleep with ninety women, each of whom will bring forth a (would-be) cavalier who will fight in Allah's Cause." On this, his companion said to him, "Say: Allah willing!" But he did not say Allah willing. Solomon then slept with all the women, but none of them became pregnant but one woman who later delivered a half-man. By Him in Whose Hand Muhammad's soul is, if he (Solomon) had said, 'Allah willing' (all his wives would have brought forth boys) and they would have fought in Allah's Cause as cavaliers. "
Sahih al-Bukhari Book 93 Hadith 561
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Prophet Solomon who had sixty wives, once said, "Tonight I will have sexual relation (sleep) with all my wives so that each of them will become pregnant and bring forth (a boy who will grow into) a cavalier and will fight in Allah's Cause." So he slept with his wives and none of them (conceived and) delivered (a child) except one who brought a half (body) boy (deformed). Allah's Prophet said, "If Solomon had said;
'If Allah Will,' then each of those women would have delivered a (would-be) cavalier to fight in Allah's Cause." (See Hadith No. 74 A, Vol. 4).
tu pun sam and semua lobai begitu fanatik bela buku ini sebagai saheeeehhh...walhal nyata diguna kaedah chinese whispers je..setakat pakai nama2 bombastic cam "science hadeesss"...mutawatir transmission..etc2..tapi hasilnye nan hadoooo cam atas..infact cukup ke sperm manusia untuk 100 bini per nite?
patut la saudi kata sebabkan banyak beda "auta" dalam buku hebat ini..maka sudah tiba masanye untuk dipinda..bwahahahah
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tu ku cakap..dia nak hadeess tu tulis perkataan "pedo" and medical terms didalam hadith itu sendiri...ade terms ke tak ade tak ubah cerita yang si tua berkenan kat budak umur 6 tahun lagi walaupun bapak budak tu hesitant nak bagi...tapi si tua totap nak siap guna nama tuhan..
last2 kawin masa umur 6..tak leh tahan 9 tahun dak berseks sakan...oh my gawddddd
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katowjo replied at 14-4-2018 02:26 PM
tehehehe..memang menarik si bukhari yang disanjung2 lobai...lagi menarik kisah seks si solomon ni. ...
aisehman, satu source pon boley berlainan versi bilangannya. Mungkin diletakkan buku ini dlm rumah, kereta dan kedai, pencuri sibuk menikmati cerita satu malam tu, dan cuba meyelesaikan percanggahan bilangan yg dinyatakan. Tak sempat nak habiskan misi |
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katowjo replied at 14-4-2018 02:26 PM
tehehehe..memang menarik si bukhari yang disanjung2 lobai...lagi menarik kisah seks si solomon ni. ...
Interesting.... So ada kemungkinankah hukum hudud, rejam, hubungan seks dengan tawanan perang, anak luar nikah boleh dikahwini bapa kandung semua tu ciptaan manusia melalui hadis juga? I mean bukan dari kata2 nabi sendiri tapi telah diselewengkan selepas baginda wafat. Sekadar bertanya pendapat (I do not want to make any conclusions here). Dulu pernah Tun M dan Kasim Ahmad cakap something about hadis perlu dikaji semula tapi dilabel anti hadis pula. Sekarang pun Saudi dah mahu pinda hadis. |
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Aerhys replied at 14-4-2018 02:41 PM
Interesting.... So ada kemungkinankah hukum hudud, rejam, hubungan seks dengan tawanan perang, ana ...
Ai dah lama berpendapat begini. |
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chazey replied at 14-4-2018 02:45 PM
Ai dah lama berpendapat begini.
You know, the first time saya dengar hadis payung emas di syurga sebagai ganjaran untuk wanita yg membenarkan suaminya berpoligami tu, saya terus fikir ridiculousnya kenapa mesti payung? Tak bolehkah istana kristal ke bidadara hensem ke kereta sport ke apa. Apa gunanya payung emas? Berat pula tu nak angkat. Rupanya hadis tu memang hadis palsu hahahah. Sejak tu saya skeptikal dengan hadis2 yg pelik2 sikit ni. Kasihan nama baginda dipergunakan penunggang2 agama. |
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Ha ha ha ha ...... Aku rasa lebih bodoh org macam ko yg mati2 percaya kencing geng ko , si lobai king of tunggeng @katowjo & abam deeen(sengau2slang mat salleh) , @maideen yg mati2 klaim
- Quran tak complete pasal kambing makan cebisan ayat Rejm
- Sampai skg tak mampu jelaskan pasal apa korang klaim Nabi Muhammad(saw) paedophile
Ko dah dimalukan dgn terhina sekali ttg bible yg ko cuba pertahankan sebagai bekas kristian & kalo ko tak tau ttg sejarah kompilasi Quran & tak tau apa tu definisi paedophile - apa yg ko boleh jawab?
Jgn lah tonjolkan yg diri ko tu kureng cerdik pasal ko masih marah diri ko diperbodohkan ttg bible yg menjadik pegangan ko sebelum ini.
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yes..the more u read and buat research..the more you know...sebab tu puak2 "tu" selalu tak bagi orang belajar tak berguru or dilarang mengunakan akal...they are afraid the lies they created tu di exposed..
kalau kita guna logik akal tentang if there is a god and prophet..mestilah benda2 tu good and pure khen..tapi yang ade sebaliknye..contoh
Narrated 'Urwa:
The Prophet (ﷺ) asked Abu Bakr for `Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."
Sahih al-Bukhari 5081
Book 67, Hadith 19
Narrated `Aisha:
that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Sahih al-Bukhari 5133
Book 67, Hadith 69
anyway...kalau orang baik2 and normal..ade selera ke nak main or terangsang tgk budak perempuan umur 6 tahun duk maain anak patung?per cerita hadeess...mana ade orang normal terangsang kecuali "pedo"..tapi lobai sini tak kasi guna pedo..hanya sebab that term tak wujud lagi masa hadees ditulis..go figure..
anyway..puak2 ni butthurt kenapa..if i kata i tak terima hadeess..mereka butthurt..kata i anti hadeess..nak report jakim la etc2...if i konar kata i terima hadeesss2...maka i kena never bring benda2 gini in the hadeesss ...buat2 tak nampak je..tapi kena caya..prrfthhh...kalau i caya and bring up..depa sentap report mod dan claim i menghina...
tapi if bukhari muslim or mat mullah dari iran mana lagi yang tulis hadesss2 gini..depa tak anggap menghina..pelik kan?
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Ha ha ha ha ... lobai king of tunggeng katowjo masih nak lari lagi
Kata dah , ko akan takut jawab soalan & lepas tu komplain dah 50+ pages
Soalan2 senang aje :
Ok ada beberapa soalan ttg hadith bukhari
(1) abam deeen (sengau2 slang mat salleh) & lobai king of tunggeng katowjo kononnya cakap pasal 'hadith bukhari' ttg kambing makan cebisan ayat rejam & lepas tu klaim Quran tak complete. Yg best nya 2 geng ni klaim org lain semua tak tau ttg tersebut
Ok .. boleh tak bagi rujukkan 'hadith bukhari' ttg tersebut
(2) Korang mati2 klaim Nabi Muhammad(saw) paedophile pasal kawin dgn Aishah(ra) ikut hadith bukhari
Ok ... boleh tak bagi bukti , rujukkan & alasan konkrit pasal apa korang klaim Nabi Muhammad(saw) paedophile
Kira2 'hadith bukhari' ttg kambing makan cebisan ayat Quran kira burnt lah .... bermakna ko salah lah ni .... tapi ko tak mau mengaku kan
Macamana skg , apa alasan konkrit ko yg ko dok klaim Nabi Muhammad (saw) seorang paedophile
Sampai skg ko hanya mampu bagi pendapat ko aje ... pendapat yg tak guna satu sen pon
Ni apa yg ko merepek :
hahahhah..ni je la duk ulang and ulang and ulang.
agaknye kena ade hadith yang bagi medikal term and kata sebut perkataan "pedo" terang2 baru leh kata orang tua have seks ngan budak 9 tahun dikira pedo dan perbuatan keji...
ade lak hadis yang bapa ecah tak berapa setuju nak bagi anaknye 6tahun kawin ngan pakcik umur 50 tahun tu..nampak benor kerja gila khen..tapi pakcik tu totap bertegas nak jugak budak 6 tahun tu...prrrftthhh..berkenan gila kat budak kecik...tapi ape kan daya..dalam hadis tu takde medikal term and perkataan "pedo"..jadi bagi sam and lobai..its ok dan laeeeennn laeeennn
ps:aku ingatkan nak contest kesahihan hades atau moral si nabi..rupanye contest medikal terms and hadis tak sebut spesifik perkataan "pedo" je...jadi ape yang sam achieve?still tua 50 tahun bertegas nak kawin budak 6 tahun waluapun bapak budak teragak2 dan tak mahu..prrfthhhh...
apa orang panggil orang tua berkenan(in a sexual way) kat budak 6 tahun?..ape medikal terms?bwhahahaah
Apa yg ko bagi semua pendapat ko yg tak guna satu sen pon ... ye lah ko ni hanya kaki kencing aje
Ok tak apa .. aku bagi definisi medikal paedophilia pasal ko dah takut sgt : aku bagi yg paling senang pasal ko ni kureng fasih english
paedophilia Recurrent sexual urges towards a prepubertal child by a person over the age of 16 and at least five years older than the child. If manifested, these urges, which constitute criminal sexual molestation, usually involve fondling of the genitals and oral intercourse. Vaginal or anal intercourse is relatively infrequent except in cases of incest. Active paedophilia is not a medical or psychiatric condition; it is a crime universally condemned. The Internet has become a vehicle both for the promulgation of paedophilic graphics and for the promotion of paedophilic contacts.
Macamana yg ko mati2 boleh klaim Nabi Muhammad(saw) paedophile pasal mereka hanya hidup sebagai suami isteri selepas Aishah(ra) baligh
Tu pasal aku dah bagi kat ko , Journal dari Sage ttg Paedophilia .... The concept of childhood varies in meaning
across different times and places. As such, historical and cultural variation in understand-
ings of adult/child sexual relations might therefore be anticipated. However, such varia-
tion can be obscured by the normalisation and assumed universality of contemporary
(Westernised) definitions of transgressive phenomena such as paedophilia ....
He he he he ... last2 bila dah tak mampu jawab , jawapan ko hanyalah
Paham tak cikgu @chazey ,
Baca dulu scientific journal & paham dulu medical definition of paedophilia sebelum jadi macam org tak ada akai ... buat malu jadik cikgu aje
Such a simple mind
I pity your students
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and back to copy paste benda sama jugak..MO samam..nak benamkan benda yang terkantoi...prrftthhhh....
sam2..u ni jenis bernafsu tak tengok budak pompuan umur 6 tahun tgh mani ngan anak patung sampai sanggup pi terhegeh hegeh pi mintak sama bapak budak itu mintak kawin?
takpe sam..i tak kata u pedo k..just bcos u terangsang and bernafsu nak main ngan budak kicik..maklumlah...terms pedo and medical terms tu lagi penting dari "perbuatan" itu sendiri khen...ewwwww |
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Edited by wajevo at 14-4-2018 06:45 PM
Bagi aku, kitab hadis Bukhari bukannya perfect pun. Nak dispute pun ok. Takkan kita nak samatarafkan kitab hadis dengan Al-Quran?
So, terpulanglah. Dan aku pun heran kenapa letak term sahih kat kitab? Yg confirm sahih hanyalah Al-Quran. Tu pun ada kes2 orang seleweng kitab Al-Quran.
Tapi, macam mana pun kita Kene ingat yg our faith is about Allah dan rasul. Itu pokoknya. Bukan kitab, amalan, whatsoever yg open for disputes dan corruption.
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sam1528 replied at 14-4-2018 06:30 PM
Ha ha ha ha ... lobai king of tunggeng katowjo masih nak lari lagi
Kata dah , ko akan takut ja ...
Ko dah nikoh? Akak lagi pity bini dan benih2 ko dapat bapak benak namampus macam ko. Mudah2an ko belum nikoh. Biar keturunan ko terhapus kat ko jah. |
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Ha ha ha ha ... lobai king of tunggeng katowjo ... masih nak mengencing lagi
Ko ni sebenarnya copy paste dari 'answering islam' lah tambi .... ko bukan ada buat apa2 research pon
Macamana ko boleh paham macam ni yg Abu Bakr(ra) tak bagi Aishah(ra) kawin?
kalau kita guna logik akal tentang if there is a god and prophet..mestilah benda2 tu good and pure khen..tapi yang ade sebaliknye..contoh
Narrated 'Urwa:
The Prophet (ﷺ) asked Abu Bakr for `Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."
Sahih al-Bukhari 5081
Book 67, Hadith 19
terang2 si tua tu berkenan nak kawin ngan budak 6 tahun...bukan si bapak budak tu offer..malah dia reluctant sebab..well..budak 6 tahun..with orang tua 50..ewwww
Thus the contribution of Aisha was vital, without her perhaps much of the sunnah would have been lost. In addition the marriage also refuted the notion that a man could not marry the daughter of a man who he had declared to be his "brother" (even in the religious sense). Since the Prophet and Abu Bakr had declared each other to be "brothers", this notion was done away with. This is demonstrated in the following hadith:
"Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."" (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 18)
This is another teaching, which the marriage portrayed. The marriage also strengthened the relationship between Abu Bakr and Prophet Muhammed. Let us bear in mind that Abu Bakr was the first Caliph.
Konsep yg simple macam ni pon ko tak paham .... ni semua pendapat ko yg langsung tak guna satu sen pon ... pendapat ko yg songsang
Ok skg macamana yg ko boleh klaim Nabi Muhammad(saw) paedophile pasal
(1) aku bagi definisi medikal paedophilia pasal ko dah takut sgt nak bagi : aku bagi yg paling senang pasal ko ni kureng fasih english
paedophilia Recurrent sexual urges towards a prepubertal child by a person over the age of 16 and at least five years older than the child. If manifested, these urges, which constitute criminal sexual molestation, usually involve fondling of the genitals and oral intercourse. Vaginal or anal intercourse is relatively infrequent except in cases of incest. Active paedophilia is not a medical or psychiatric condition; it is a crime universally condemned. The Internet has become a vehicle both for the promulgation of paedophilic graphics and for the promotion of paedophilic contacts.
(2) aku dah bagi kat ko , Journal dari Sage ttg Paedophilia .... The concept of childhood varies in meaning across different times and places. As such, historical and cultural variation in understandings of adult/child sexual relations might therefore be anticipated. However, such variation can be obscured by the normalisation and assumed universality of contemporary (Westernised) definitions of transgressive phenomena such as paedophilia ....
Macamana skg yg ko mati2 boleh klaim Nabi Muhammad(saw) paedophile?
Pendapat sendiri ko tu tak guna satu sen pon.
Mana fakta ko , medikal ke , saintifik ke yg konfom Nabi Muhammad(saw) paedophile?
Bila tak mampu jawab .... ko hanya boleh cakap
Sebenarnya yg tak pakai otak berpikir hanyalah ko aje ... boleh pulak tu cakap macam ni :
yes..the more u read and buat research..the more you know...sebab tu puak2 "tu" selalu tak bagi orang belajar tak berguru or dilarang mengunakan akal...they are afraid the lies they created tu di exposed..
Banyak scientific & medical studies ttg paedophilia dah dibuat. Kalo korang ada akai sikit & mampu baca english ko akan sedar klaim paedophile kepada Nabi Muhammad(saw) ni hanya dibuat oleh org yg kurang akai & kurang fasih english ... tak tau apa tu paedophilia
Wakaka ... ko kantoi dimalukan dgn terhina sekali lagi
cikgu @chazey ... take note ... baca sikit medical & scientific journal ... jgn duduk bawah tempurung aje ... buka sikit minda tu
Aku tau korang susah sikit pasal kureng fasih english .... kena cuba lah
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Ha ha ha ha .. tengok aja lah jawapan cikgu chazey yg separuh akai
Isu skg adalah
- Macamana ko boleh klaim Nabi Muhammad(saw) paedophile? Dah banyak kajian medikal & scientific yg buktikan sebaliknya
Aku suruh ko baca journal tersebut & cuba jadik cerdik sikit
Ini jawapan kurang akai ko :
Ko dah nikoh? Akak lagi pity bini dan benih2 ko dapat bapak benak namampus macam ko. Mudah2an ko belum nikoh. Biar keturunan ko terhapus kat ko jah.
Patut pon our kids education is going down the drain .... cikgu macam ni .... perfect example of such
Macamana ko boleh jadik cikgu ni?
Membaca utk jadik lebih cerdik pon ko tak mampu & tak mau ..... emotional aje
There are no emotions in facts
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Edited by chazey at 14-4-2018 07:39 PM
sam1528 replied at 14-4-2018 07:19 PM
Ha ha ha ha .. tengok aja lah jawapan cikgu chazey yg separuh akai
Isu skg adalah
Ek eleh. Dengan ambik satu journal jah dia ingat dia dah betol. Dasar pemalas nak baca research paper banyak2.
Ko pi google neh:
A Profile of Pedophilia: Definition ... - Child AbuseWatch.NET
PDFhttps://www.abusewatch.net pedophiles
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