P.U.L. (Pure Unconditional Love)

Agul

Originally posted by Mansairaku at 3-8-2007 06:47 PM
"If I can give colour to P.U.L., it's white"

Why white?
When it can be smeared by other colours?
In the end of the day, if the white ceased to be white,
what will become of the so-called love?

It's really heart err...   I mean hard to燿escribe爈ove.

I am associating P.U.L. with white because we usually associate the color with purity. White is also the combination of all other colour (as in爐he light spectrum), so it 'IS' the ultimate color.燗t least what our eyes can see. It爄s爓hole,燾omplete,爌ure, and perfect.

And then people associate pink  with certain kind of love, deep red with lust etc. etc....

When it becomes other colour, we can let it be so... or we can change it to white again.

Agul

It's nice to know someone like her.

Agul

It is a bit like loving kindness or an attitude of goodwill. You want people to be happy, blessed in every way. You don't expect anything from them. You no longer feel envy, hatred malice etc...

It is a certain state of being. A miraclous, wondrous state of being.

And it does take hardwork to arrive at. Not for those who want to be like sheep and do not want to constantly monitor their feeling.

redsinner

i hate being a sheep but i dont want to be taken for granted either...
sometimes the honesty in our heart would be taken for granted by the other party.

to me, P.U.L is more like love towards orphan children where you can love them and nurture them and only hope the best, without hoping anything in return...

hamizao

posted by Agul at 2-8-2007.......only love can fed the hunger,
in our hearts,that's the answer,
the only answer...

Yes, love may be defined as such too. There has to be that longing......................Tu lah sebab dedulu orang kalau tak berjumpa pandang bumbung rumahpun ok! My dad  said this.

Originally posted by Agul at 2-8-2007 12:03 AM
People always thought that love comes from outside them. They need stimulant to fel love. To open the valve in their hearts.

They fall in love, they become happy. One day the outside stimulant ...

Generally I think love at it's initial stage is like a plant.......requires nutrients to grow well. Two individuals together is never a simple thing. You need to work on the relationship before true love is reached. For a house to remain strong and functional it needs a good, strong foundation and regular maintenence. So in a love relationship, there may be a constant need for motivation due to the weaknesses or imperfections of men themselves. Talking of true love ..................that's on a different plain.

P.U.L? What's pure love first? Is it the same as unconditional love or is it (pure + unconditional) love ?

[ Last edited by  hamizao at 4-8-2007 09:31 PM ]

ajinomotonosuga

P.U.L is purely necessities.

manakautau

Originally posted by Agul at 24-3-2007 12:31 PM
P.U.L.

Terms and conditions applied ?????????

ajinomotonosuga

" Love that I understand is something that encompasses all, its somethingthat grow, it makes good things grow, expand and increase, alwaysbecoming more..."

itu what Agul typed, so saya quote jek.

so kalau Love grows sudah tentu ianya perlu kondisi for growth? anak tak makan buleh besar ka?

Unrolling stone gathers moss. Batu tak bergerak kumpui lumut. Parang tak di asah, lama2 tumpul. Otak tak bergerak lama2 'mati'. Body tak moving lama2 mati. So kenapa cinta musti tiada KONDISI  tapi boleh berkembang as u claimed.

i wait for ur elaboration, patiently (kondisi cinta nih )

Mansairaku

Originally posted by Agul at 4-8-2007 05:59 PM
It's nice to know someone like her.

Uhmm....when you think about it,
there are a lot of things, small, minor, trivial things going around us everyday,
our lives are too short for us to learn everything through our own experiences,
which is probably why we refer to other ppl's experiences as well ...

at the time, i was definitely one of those ppl who thought my fren was
too forgiving for her own good ..but looking back, her actions were most
probably the most matured ..

Mansairaku

"Unrolling stone gathers moss. Batu tak bergerak kumpui lumut. Parang tak di asah, lama2 tumpul. Otak tak bergerak lama2 'mati'. Body tak moving lama2 mati. So kenapa cinta musti tiada KONDISI  tapi boleh berkembang as u claimed"

over the years,
my perspective of "love" has changed .. i guess,
when i was younger and didnt know any better, it was as simple as "living happily ever after"
but as i grew, "love" is not as simple a word as it seemed to be,
there are different levels, different shades, different versions of "love",
and the more i grew,
the more i found that "love" can never be a constant,
and it is never stagnant,
it needs oiling, it needs maintenance, and ...and luck? perhaps?

and recently,
i think i have lost the meaning of "love"
the four-letter word has more or less no meaning,
over-used, mis-used, ab-used, ..

perhaps it is better to look at all the unsaid words ..

Agul

A bit busy right now. I will reply when I have the time.

zenita

PUL? erm susah.. most of the time, we want people to reciprocate. family of course, you can sacrifice for them, for your younger brothers without asking for return.. but kalau bercinta tu, susah sikit. if you loyal to your bf and your bf is not, would you still stay with him? dont know about you but i wouldnt. i do give my unconditional love to my family and friends. friends, no matter how difference our personalities/opinions are, we're still close and care for each other. so, if a wife can give an unconditional love to the husband, despite knowing the bad things that the husband do and stay with him thru thick and thin, deserved my respect.

In a nutshell, PUL is possible but it takes great sacrifice (my opinion lah )

zenita

i agree with Maisara.

some things are better left unsaid. whats the point of saying 'i love you' but at the same time main kayu tiga ke ape. its just 'words'. its the action that differentiate it.

kdg2 takut nak kawin. kat my office, yg baru kawin anak sorang or dua dah start menggatal. we know that they're just doing it for fun but still! -- sori lari topic skit

True-X

Originally posted by Mansairaku at 3-8-2007 07:26 PM
my fren was once promised to be married to a person,
but when they were not together, instead of fonder,
the person's heart grew apart,

and so he told my fren that he had found another,
som ...

OMG... r u sure she was not heartbroken.....?

i guess after all the tears/bleeding/crash & burn... then she's became enlighten to act such a way towards dat jerk...

Mansairaku

Originally posted by zenita at 5-8-2007 11:42 PM
i agree with Maisara.

some things are better left unsaid. whats the point of saying 'i love you' but at the same time main kayu tiga ke ape. its just 'words'. its the action that differentiate ...

Yay! I have a new nickname!   Maisara!

Mansairaku

ada this senior couple yang kiteorang kenal ...
masa bercinta, macam nak rak ...
dari kaca mata pandangan orang luar like us, they were the "ideal couple"
then, they got married young ..in early 20s,
after 3 years and 2 kids,
tiba tiba everything jadi dingin,
dunno how to communicate to each other,
a lot of resentments in the relationship,
last last tak tahan, they chose to separate ..

so .. for ordinary ppl like us, we couldnt help but wonder
what has happened to all those feelings that they had?

Mansairaku

"kdg2 takut nak kawin. kat my office, yg baru kawin anak sorang or dua dah start menggatal. we know that they're just doing it for fun but still! "

yang ni memang ada ...
married women, lari dengan anak bujang orang pun ada ..
sampey hubby datang ngamuk kat ofis ...

Mansairaku

Originally posted by True-X at 5-8-2007 11:58 PM


OMG... r u sure she was not heartbroken.....?

i guess after all the tears/bleeding/crash & burn... then she's became enlighten to act such a way towards dat jerk...

heartbroken? at the time...yup,
but at the same time,
i think ....she was very very smart ....
sebab?
not only were she on very good terms with her ex's family ..
her ex's mom tu actually very berkenan with her untuk dijadikan menantu ..
and her decision untuk layan her ex dengan sebaik baiknya ...
makes it difficult for her ex and her ex's family, not to compare and have certain expectations
kesian sikit the new girl, she will have a lot to live up to  ...
and in those terms, i did think my fren was smart ..

compared dengan kiteorang yang deal with these things immaturedly, having tendencies to stomp off  ...

hamizao

More like two souls trying to be in one body rather than one soul  in two bodies! Pls refer to Aristotle.

Well the moral of the story is a lot of work has to go into preserving a relationship.............at least before true love is attained. Only they would know what is lacking.

thamrong

Life is  existence which end  with death.  To meet death is no big deal because we can meet death at our own accord. We call the shot, now or tomorrow. It so simple. Just stand in the middle of Federal Highway facing an incoming truck or better still jump from the nearest tall building. My question is why we struggle to live  to see tomorrow and the next day and so on...ad infinitum.

The reason is because we love ourself and this is something we take for granted and unknowingly embedded deep in our soul. This is strongest force within ourself with single purpose . That is to live.. This force is 'LOVE'  and it transcend any other loves which we called 'Self-Love'.