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TIBET - Info, cari geng, planning & itineraries

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Post time 12-1-2012 09:38 PM | Show all posts
ok dh merged kan all thread about tibet. Hope this can help us.

thanks to Gaia~   {:1_14 ...
bdk2 Post at 12-1-2012 05:44 PM



    yer r welkam mod bdk2 Thanks kembali
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Post time 13-1-2012 12:34 AM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by ina_cun at 13-1-2012 22:55
A.asia KL-Chengdu RM450 (all in)
Travel Agent RM1160 (8 days)
tour guide RM220
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C0Y0TiT0 Post at 10-1-2012 00:25



    coyotito~ gurl boleh join x trip nie?berape org gurl dlm group u?i minat sgt nk join....tringin nk sampi himalaya...sehari travel guide nie cas berape?
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Post time 13-1-2012 01:05 AM | Show all posts
cuti skolah biasanya bulan 5 ngan bulan 12 ke cik lisza?
cmf_GAIA Post at 12-1-2012 21:37



    ya....hujung bln 5- tgh bln 6... lepas tu tgh nov sampai awal jan....huhuhu..jangan tinggal daku...nak ikotttt...tadi tgk TLC kat astro..round tibet n himalaya..tgk everest..bestnye,,,{:4_500:}
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Post time 13-1-2012 06:54 AM | Show all posts
coyotito~ gurl boleh join x trip nie?berape org gurl dlm group u?i minat sgt nk join....se ...
ina_cun Post at 13-1-2012 12:34 AM



    from info i read on net, guide dibayar sekitar 200-250 yuan (sekitar RM100-125) per day. Guide ni biasanya kita hired dari mana2 reputable TA berlesen n diwajibkan oleh kerajaan China kpd pelancong asing sejak kes tahun 2008. Kalau nak berjalan2 sekitar Lhasa sahaja, tak ada guide tak apa, boleh jimat tapi kalau nak ke Istana Potala (juga dlm Lhasa), guide wajib. Keluar dari Lhasa sampai ke sempadan Nepal juga diwajibkan ditemani guide, sekatan jalan checkpoint by polis China akan ada dimana2 sepanjang jalan tu....
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Post time 13-1-2012 07:05 AM | Show all posts
ya....hujung bln 5- tgh bln 6... lepas tu tgh nov sampai awal jan....huhuhu..jangan tingga ...
lisza Post at 13-1-2012 01:05 AM



    cuti skolah akhir tahun mcm dah kurang sesuai sbb Tibet sangat2 sejuk time tu.....Himalayan road juga mungkin kurang sesuai utk dilalui pasal harsh weather....tak silap saya, tempoh waktu sesuai utk melawat Tibet ialah sekitar Mac-Oct, tapi Mac dgn April biasanya org exclude dari itinerary pasal sekitar bulan tu ada anniversary of Tibet's peaceful resistance yg tidak disukai oleh china gov, so dalam tempoh berlangsung event ni, china gov akan tutup Tibet kepada pelancong asing. Maka waktu sesuai yg tinggal ialah Mei hingga Oct, cuti sekolah bulan Mei-Jun tu mcm sesuai. Diorang2 ni nak buat sept, kalau nak ubah timing either kena awalkan or postpone ke tahun depan.
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Post time 13-1-2012 08:50 PM | Show all posts
Reply 45# musaffir


    sounds very interesting. Minat sgt2 nk join.
bole x consider saya berempat nk join kalu tanpa aral melintang.
tiket bila nk book?
persedian documents & physical gmana?
age limit?
hrp impian jd kenyataan.
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Post time 13-1-2012 09:34 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by cmf_GAIA at 13-1-2012 21:35
Reply  musaffir


    sounds very interesting. Minat sgt2 nk join.
bole x consider saya berempa ...
mohid Post at 13-1-2012 08:50 PM



    musaffir nampak mcm dah tak masuk sini pasal kena tolak credit tu, tapi harap2 dia kembali lah even dgn nama dan registration baru.....sayang lah pulak kalau berhenti separa jalan bila dah dapat beberapa org yg berminat nak join.

Pasal age limit, rasanya tak ada, janji cukup fit je, maybe kena buat latihan cardio ke dlm 3 bulan sebelum pergi secara berterusan supaya stamina terjaga.....

Apa2 pun yg akan dijangka ialah High Altitude Sickness yg biasanya sapa2 pun akan kena....some info on AMS:-

Altitude sickness, also known as acute mountain sickness (AMS), altitude illness, or soroche, is a pathological condition that is caused by acute exposure to low air pressure (usually outdoors at high altitudes). It commonly occurs above 2,400 metres (approximately 8,000 feet). Acute mountain sickness can progress to high altitude pulmonary edema or high altitude cerebral edema.


AMS is very common at high altitude. At over 3,000 meters (10,000 feet) 75% of people will have mild symptoms. The occurrence of AMS is dependent upon the elevation, the rate of ascent, and individual susceptibility. Many people will experience mild AMS during the acclimatization process. The symptoms usually start 12 to 24 hours after arrival at altitude and begin to decrease in severity around the third day.   
  

The symptoms of Mild AMS include:
  
  • Headache
  • Nausea & Dizziness
  • Loss of appetite
  • Fatigue
  • Shortness of breath
  • Disturbed sleep
  • General feeling of malaise
      
Symptoms tend to be worse at night and   when respiratory drive is decreased. Mild AMS does not interfere with normal   activity and symptoms generally subside within two to four days as the body   acclimatizes. As long as symptoms are mild, and only a nuisance, ascent can   continue at a moderate rate.           


Tips to avoid AMS  
  1. Do not   overexert yourself or more higher for the first 24 hours.
  
  2. If you   begin to show symptoms of moderate altitude sickness, don't go higher until   symptoms decrease.
  
  3. Stay properly hydrated. Acclimatization is often   accompanied by fluid loss, so you need to drink lots of fluids to remain   properly hydrated.
  
  4. Take it easy and don't overexert yourself when you   first get up to altitude. But, light activity during the day is better than   sleeping because respiration decreases during sleep, exacerbating the symptoms.
  
  5. Avoid tobacco, alcohol and other depressant drugs including,   barbiturates, tranquillisers, sleeping pills and opiates such as dihydrocodeine.   These further decrease the respiratory drive during sleep resulting in a   worsening of symptoms.
  
  6. Remember: Acclimatisation is inhibited by   overexertion, dehydration, and alcohol.
  
  7. Prepare some AMS pills   according to your doctor's suggestion.
  
  8. Do exercises to keep you fit   before coming to Tibet.
  
  
Who can't   go  
  Everyone should have more or less altitude symptoms.   However, those who have the following symptoms may not going to Tibet
  
  1.   something relating to Tuberculosis, pneumonia, serious tracheitis,   bronchitis
  2. Serious heart attack, high blood pressure
  3. have already   got a serious cold


Mohid punya geng 4 org smua lasak2 ke?
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Post time 13-1-2012 09:57 PM | Show all posts
The 45 Places to Go in 2012
By NEW YORK TIMES

London, Havana, Lhasa and, yes, even the final frontier. A year’s worth of reasons to pack your bags and take off...

majalah NY times pon mencalonkan lhasa 1 drpd 45  tempat yg wajib dilawati pada thun 2012....so of course laa TA kt sane akan bersungguh2 mencari customer n memberikan perkhidmatan yg terbaik kepada traveller...
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Post time 13-1-2012 10:18 PM | Show all posts
cuti skolah akhir tahun mcm dah kurang sesuai sbb Tibet sangat2 sejuk time tu.....Himalaya ...
cmf_GAIA Post at 13-1-2012 07:05



    cmf_gaia bulan mei-jun pon xberape sesuai....musim panas tu....nty balik malaysia family n kengkawan dh xcam...kulit kite yg putih n gebu nie jd mcm mamat nepal n bangla plak....akhir tahun pon xsesuai jgak...cuaca kt tibet very extream n harsh...kesejukan tibet boleh membuatkan suhu drop smpi -5-8 celcius...kesejukannyer boleh membakar n merosakkan kulit...kene sapu sun block..kalu x kulit jd mcm muqarrabin...jd mcm hangus
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Post time 13-1-2012 10:34 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by ina_cun at 13-1-2012 22:52

important information by tibetanconnection

We make travel to Lhasa as easy as possible while offering affordable prices with the maximum amount of freedom to do what you want!
How do we obtain a permit for you?

All Tibet travel permits are issued at the Tibet Travel Bureau in Lhasa. Foreigners can not directly obtain a travel permit through this office. Only travel agencies in China can obtain these permits.
In order for a permit to be issued, you must have a fully booked tour for the duration of your stay inside of the Tibet Autonomous Region. This includes:

  * Travel tickets to Lhasa
   * Permit for Lhasa and additional permits for travel outside of Lhasa
   * Itinerary for all days in Lhasa and surrounding areas
  *  Registered guide
   * Registered car and driver for any trips outside of Lhasa
   * All accommodations must also be booked at approved foreign tourist hotels
   * Proof of travel leaving the Tibet Autonomous Region

Below is a list of our pre-planned trips in Lhasa and the surrounding area. If you wo
uld like to do something different let us know and we will do our best to arrange a custom trip for you.
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Post time 13-1-2012 11:36 PM | Show all posts
cmf_gaia bulan mei-jun pon xberape sesuai....musim panas tu....nty balik malaysia family n ...
ina_cun Post at 13-1-2012 10:18 PM



    a'ah terfikir gak....musim panas pastinya terik matahari, kawasan tinggi lebih dekat dgn matahari lebih bahaya utk kulit....org2 tibet pun ramai yg gelap2......tapi dlm musim summer tu memang peak season jugak, ramai tourist membanjiri Tibet musim ni....1 september dah dekat dgn autumn dah, masa paling sesuai kerana tak terlalu panas dah.....
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Post time 13-1-2012 11:54 PM | Show all posts
a'ah terfikir gak....musim panas pastinya terik matahari, kawasan tinggi lebih dekat dgn m ...
cmf_GAIA Post at 13-1-2012 23:36



    kulit gurl mmg sensitif..kene bawak mcm2 jnis lotion...org putih mmg suka kan cahaya kepanasan sbb xdek kt negara depa...bulan jun-august bulan paling bahaya,should be avoid during rainy season ,especially eastern tibet...sbb kerap berlaku landslides...

bulan nov-feb pon ptt dijauhi...all street will be frozen on that time....


cmf_gaia pernah g tibet ke?
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Post time 14-1-2012 12:02 AM | Show all posts
kulit gurl mmg sensitif..kene bawak mcm2 jnis lotion...org putih mmg suka kan cahaya kepan ...
ina_cun Post at 13-1-2012 11:54 PM


belum yuk, baru kira2 nak planning je, tapi kamu mcm pernah je
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Post time 14-1-2012 12:13 AM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by ina_cun at 14-1-2012 00:17

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Post time 14-1-2012 12:21 AM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by ina_cun at 14-1-2012 02:05
ina_cun Post at 14-1-2012 00:13



    i blom pernah sampai sane tp tringin sgt nk tgok view ebc ridge dr tibet side.....dr shigatse nk ke nepal u rasa ssh x cari makanan halal?boleh wt style camping ?masak tepi jalan@pondok?nty boleh wt video rancangan masakan ber-latarbelakangkan everest...
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Post time 14-1-2012 01:36 AM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by ina_cun at 14-1-2012 02:11

kalu dr chengdu-lhasa naik flight pon ok jgak kn?kos naik tren soft sleeper pon kt rm600...bukan murah pon...mkn masa 48jam plak tu...masa yg bernilai nie lebih baik di abiskan ronda2 lhasa sebelom MELANTIK TA...masa kt lhasa 1@2days boleh lah menjejak peninggalan org islam..kite wt plan sendiri msa kt lhasa...cume kalu rase perlu,kite just hire tour guide jelah utk sehari cukup kot dgn TG pusing2 potala palace..

perjalanan kite bersame  TA selama 8hari which begins & start from gyatse>......xpon kite request n deal dgn TA ttg route itinerary....xperlu i rase kite spend 2@3 hari kt lhasa dgn TA.....

chengdu-lhasa flight itinerary


U$D 266.50
12:50 pm Depart Chengdu (CTU)
Arrive Lhasa (LXA) 2:40 pm
        Tue 4-Sep 2012
Duration: 1hr 50mn         
Air China         Air China 4112
        Nonstop flight
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Post time 14-1-2012 03:01 AM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by cmf_GAIA at 14-1-2012 03:03
i blom pernah sampai sane tp tringin sgt nk tgok view ebc ridge dr tibet side.....dr shiga ...
ina_cun Post at 14-1-2012 12:21 AM



    ni pics EBC lagik cun ---> http://indianakev.com/Tibet-EBC.php

a'ah...kalau travel ramai2 tentu boleh buat video ala documentary nanti...hehe....

btw, memang train tu mahal tapi train trip Xining-Lhasa tu pengalaman sekali seumur hidup tu.......ala2 perlu masuk itinerary jugak. Lagipun, naik train body ada lebih masa nak adapt dgn perubahan ketinggian, kalau flight mungkin cepat sgt kot? Ntah, teori bodo-bodo je tu....

Pasal makanan halal, aku rasa mcm lebih mudah dari yg kita sangkakan sbb artikel islam in china tu cakap kebanyakan business people yg bukak resto kat Tibet ialah muslim terutamanya pembekal daging, others than that kedai2 biasa vegeterian je....boleh study la cemana...perjalanan dari Lhasa-Kathmandu rasanya boleh deal dgn TA je kot, bawak je la pasta, tomato, megi....kalau tak pun makan Tsampa je la. Tsampa ni kedengaran mcm tak mengenyangkan, tapi dah nama pun travel, takda la perlu nak makan kenyang2 pun, asal cukup protein, cukup tenaga je.....
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Post time 14-1-2012 11:13 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by cmf_GAIA at 14-1-2012 23:14

tghari tadi ada belek Lonely Planet Tibet kat MPH, ada map Lhasa dlm travelbook tu tunjuk kedudukan Muslim Quarter di Lhasa, letaknya dekat2 dgn Jokhang Monastery. Ada satu hotel dekat masjid besar nama Flora hotel running by muslim Nepali katanya. Hotel ni hotel budget, satu lagi hotel dalam area muslim quarter nama Rama Kharpo, tak ada info owner dia muslim ke tak tapi kat tripadvisor kata hotel ni diusahakan oleh keluarga tempatan. Review kat tripadvisor utk Rama Kharpo agak bagus, ada sorang traveler naik atas bumbung hotel boleh nampak Istana Potala, Jokhang Monastery dan Masjid disekitar kawasan.

Antara list kedai makan dlm Lonely Planet Tibet termasuk resto milik Belanda yg jual western food dan Indomi (ya! mi goreng ala indonesia), restoran muslim, Tibetian, Nepali & Indian food. LP cakap banyak kedai makan muslim di sekitar Muslim Quarter, tapi yg diorang highlight dlm buku hanya satu yg terbaik, tak ingat nama apa tapi resto nya menyajikan masakan dari Xinxiang (northwestern province of china) spt mi tarik dgn ayam/daging goreng manis. Kalau nak cuba makanan asli Tibet, ada satu resto masakan Tibet yg 100% vegetarian. Manakala beberapa kedai makan lain juga ada masakan vegetarian ala India utara (naan, capati or nasik kacang dal).
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Post time 16-1-2012 08:50 AM | Show all posts
Reply 87# cmf_GAIA


    tq GAIA 4 yr medical information. Very informative.
Dah pernah pegi ke?
Group saya basically lasak more on the lower altitute xcept the 2 youth. The other 2 are veteran but capibility unexpected.!!!! haa haa
Klu musaffir x proceed with the plan gmana nk join ye?
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Post time 16-1-2012 12:38 PM | Show all posts
Reply  cmf_GAIA


    tq GAIA 4 yr medical information. Very informative.
Dah pernah pegi ke?
...
mohid Post at 16-1-2012 08:50 AM



   haha, tu la pasal...kalau nekad memang kena kumpul team sendiri jugak lah, rasanya ada lah beberapa kerat yg berminat.....saya blum pernah ke sana lagi, tapi Tibet memang salah satu destinasi yg saya tgj study skrg, cuma  masih tak pasti nak buat bila.
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