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Nham22 replied at 29-8-2016 06:33 PM
Kesian budak2..risau esok lusa sebabkan pernah kene bende2 mcm ni..depa pulak jadi pelaku nye...
insyaallah tak... terutama sekali kalau dapat rawatan untuk ptsd. tapi, on personal level, they will likely be sexually confused. even after it's resolved that they are not attracted to guys in any way, they will likely feel that they are unworthy to love and be loved as a straight guy.
nampak mudah bila kita baca dalam bentuk penulisan. tapi bila kita dengar dan tengok sendiri kesannya, tuhan saja tahu betapa azab dunia effect benda2 macam ni |
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anonims replied at 29-8-2016 06:35 PM
Ya betul. The focus is on the victim/s.. I can imagine, it's not easy for him/them to speak out. T ...
betul. perit i baca, orang boleh cakap benda ni NON ISSUE. so, are you saying u are condoning these kind of things, that it is not cool to make a peep of noise when these things happened? what kind of muslim, are u, then? sekejap laknat kaum nabi lut, sekejap menghalalkan rogol dan budaya sexual abuse di asrama. be consistent la deyy. nak backup perpetrator pun, jangan u pun jadi munafik, menghalalkan child sexual abuse.
another thing, kes rogol di mckk ke hapa, tu dah melibatkan kategori umur mangsa yang berbeza. kalau budak2 ni semua sama peringkat, kenapa umur sepuluh tahun tak dibagi masuk sekolah menengah jugak. kenapa umur 10 tahun besar bezanya dgn budak umur 13 tahun, dari segi undang2, jugak? itulah orang cakap, material fact. makin kecil umur mangsa, makin hebat trauma yang dia rasa SEUMUR HIDUP.
jadi, instead of menghalalkan child sexual abuse just because it is interlinked with a known ustaz's interest, why dont we focus our effort and energy on protecting the children? after all, our religion is not revolved around duke. our moral compass pun tak sepatutnya menegah rogol bila jadi dekat orang lain, tapi bila jadi dekat alim ulama, kita halalkan pulak. know our priorities. |
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Edited by tripleid at 29-8-2016 07:03 PM
ekceli inilah spisis ummat yg disebut dlm dlm quran sbg umat nabi lut tuh..dah beranak bini tp still cari jntan utk puaskn nafsu.
i dont think maknyah or gayboy lembut yg dah sedari azali bernafsu kpd sama jantina ni masuk dlm kategori sama.
sama mcn ritual bacha bazi kt afganistan tu lah,askar2 hetrosexual yg jdikan bdk llki sbg pemuas nfsu..
skrg ni pn dah mkin bnyk kes laki straigh mostly yg pgkat2 ustaz rogol bdk laki
spatutnya jakim bg motivasi kt ostak2 yg brnafsu srbegini drpd buang masa dok sekolahkn maknyah2 lorong yg mmg naluri dorg yg tuhan buat mmg xleh nk ubah tu |
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terpaku replied at 27-8-2016 06:53 PM
i hope this mother is strong,and the child is really strong.. a very hard future is waiting in fro ...
lotsa hugs from me. i believe in u. chin up. it's never your fault, remember that |
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tripleid replied at 29-8-2016 07:01 PM
ekceli inilah spisis ummat yg disebut dlm dlm quran sbg umat nabi lut tuh..dah beranak bini tp stil ...
Bahlol lu ni, ni bukan kes ustaz liwat la sial.
Pakai ayat quran tuk buat fitnah...sial betul manusia cam lu.
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Dah ramai yang kesian dengan mak budak mangsa tu tapi ada tak yang lend sedikit empathy pada bini ustad kazim. She's also a mother, no? She must be going thru the same agony, no less. Semua orang macam lupa this fact sbb nak marah punya pasal.
I can also go another mile opening the possibily that these kids are actually gays in the making but I don't think forummers in here are ready for that so I won't just yet..
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pd i they have the right to be angry, so let them..
that doesn't mean that they have no empathey for Ustaz's wife for what has happened...kan?
but skrg ni priority is the children...the victims...the fight utk membela...mereka..that is what's important now..
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Ada org tu tgh tunjuk dia perfect sgt soal emosi walhal emosi sendiri sdg membuak2 geram bila Ust Kazim blum dpt dipersalahkan. |
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sunat bangkem dah tegak dah ni |
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lavawassapcall replied at 29-8-2016 07:08 PM
Bahlol lu ni, ni bukan kes ustaz liwat la sial.
Pakai ayat quran tuk buat fitnah...sial betul m ...
ehh bodohh,betulla yg umat nabi lut tu adlh spisis laki straigt dau ada anak bini tp ttp cari laki utk mlempuaskn nfsu.
ko penah baca x pasal ritual bacha bazi kt pdang psir afgan nun??
mmglah ostak tu blm sempat liwat bdk tu tp dia ttp bernapsu pda lubang jubo jate |
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bongok bahlol tolol lu ni...tarak tau baca punya laknat.
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dah ada dah samdol yang kata ustaz yang cuba nak liwat budak tu....ini la tujuan utama geng2 pembenci ustaz bukan nak tolog budak yg dikatakan mangsa tu...
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salam .. anak i yg pompuan dah 3 orang besar2 .
yg sulung baru keluq upsi yg ke 2 dan yg 3 masih menuntut
dlm ipt . tiga2 dah biasa hidup luar . mmg la mak bapak mana tak risau
kalau anak duduk berjauhan . cuma apa boleh saya buat hanyalah tawakkal .
saya cuba beri didikan agama yg baik .. saya berikan kasih sayang , saya berikan
perhatian . cuma saya berpesan , jaga diri elok2 . kawan2 dia saya cuba kenal ,
yg mana rapat saya kenal juga yg tidak . dan soal berpakwa2 pulak .. pandai2
korang lah . cuma ayah tak suka .. kawan sikit jerk dah bawak balik jumpa mak bapak .
tak boleh . dah kawan betol2 besok .. dah serius baru bawak balik jumpa ayah .
pasal aku tahu takda sapa yg perfect . aku dulu pun bukannya kaya sgt . cuma kawen
pun kalangan biasa pasal aku percaya pada takdir .
cuma pesan aku agak jahat pada anak2 .. korang ingat .. ini kehidupan korang sendiri .
samada ko nak jadik chasier di pasaraya atau ko nak jadik macam sepupu ko yg gaji
tujuh lapan ribu sebulan . terpulang pada ko .
tapi dlm tu .. aku pantau .
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dah berkawan sampai serius???.....serius camna tu..??
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macamana lak ko tahu ustad tu kaki pungkuk budakk ??
- bontot ko pernah dia liwatt ????
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kenapa tak boleh bawa jumpa bapak kalau baru kawan?.... tak kan nak tunggu barai kot...
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manjalara_01 replied at 29-8-2016 12:48 PM
mommy...ape khabar?
bleh tlg i x updatekan story ni?..i baru je jumpe thread ni...
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Alhamdulillah sihat..
Hurm..me pon xbaca sgt... tp u kazim duk nafi siap buat laporan polis... yg buak citer pon xde sebut madhad mana |
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even after it's resolved that they are not attracted to guys in any way, they will likely feel that they are unworthy to love and be loved as a straight guy.
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Decaffeinated replied at 29-8-2016 07:24 PM
Dah ramai yang kesian dengan mak budak mangsa tu tapi ada tak yang lend sedikit empathy pada bini ...
ah gitu.. the mother of the sick bastard deserves empathy, but not the victim's, kan, even though in this situation, the empathy for them is righteous and not misplaced?
tak cukup dgn perlekehkan budak2 yang kena abuse ni, kau tepek lagi sebijik yang budak2 ni gays in the making. read a little on the topiv of nurture vs nature, boleh? jangan jadi jaguh kampung je. debate tu supported by academic journals all over the world. nak buat statement biadap lagi irresponsible macam ni, biar ada cogent authority sikit.
also, on my personal capacity of knowing budak yang kena rogol masa umur 8 tahun, apa yang ko cakap pasal gays in the making tu sangatlah celaka. bezakan actus reus and mens rea. gay is a state of mind/nature, sodomy pulak is an action. it is true child sexual abuse survivor ada tendency untuk jadi keliru. this is largely contributed by the way men are wired. kau ni pun, kalau kena sontot dgn pondan tepi jalan, big chances are, kau pun akan terpacak dan terpancut. nak buat cemana, gspot laki duduk area situ. doesnt mean that u have formed emotional attachment towards guys in general. it also doesnt mean that ko suka dirogol.
this is the issue that haunts mangsa2 pedo ni. their fetish and perversion could be attributed by what had traumatized them. budak kecil, mana faham badan sendiri. apatah lagi kalau pedo tu groom dia, "haaa, awak terpacak ni, jadi awak tak boleh kata awak tak suka". once they manage to understand their body, n how to separate the trauma and their own being, that is where your argument that budak2 mangsa pedo ni gay in training musnah. i've seen your argument being squashed, be it by academic researches, ataupun living proof.
your arrogance, as well as privileged ignorance, sickens me. tak mampu berfikir baik dgn orang yang menghalalkan child abuse macam kau ni. rape apologist. dengan attitude kau ni, i believe u will see the same living proof of child sexual abuse effect sooner or later. kalau mangsa tu anak kau ke, anak sedara ke , orang tersayang ke, nasib kau lah kan |
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bila dah terlalu taksub dgn so called org agama
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