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[quote]Originally posted by shulie72 at 10-10-2007 01:22 PM 
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Reply #101 ayjay's post
sebut pasal JCO ngan Big Apple tuh...mmg populr kat pavilion, siap beratur lagik....
arituh mmg ada teringin nak try...tapi cam berat jerks.... |
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alhamdulillah tak pernah lagi beli benda-benda tu kat kedai. Haritu adabaca resepi utk buat fondant ...ada guna glycerine....glycerine tu apaye? Halal ke?
glycerin is a sugar alcohol meaning it's a derivative of carbohydrates like sucrose, etc. the standard code is E422. It also functions as an emulsifier. and in the case of making fondant/gun paste, it also helps extend the shelf life besides inhibiting crystalization (same as corn cyrup or glucose punya fungsi). sugar alcohol bukan jenis alcohol yang haram tu. however, it could be from animal fats, walaupun commercial glycerin is most often made synthetically from propane or by sugar fermentation. kalau nak pasti. tanyalah dengan orang kedai tu. i do use glycerin when i make my fondant.
buatlah fondant sendiri, bukannya susah pun. cuma kena guna banyak tenaga menguli kalau tak ada mixer heavy duty. i always make my own.
kalau colorings plak macamana? Maisya tengok ramai yg guna colorings yg import kat bakery supplier tu.
as far as i know, food dyes are either made from natural sources or from a petrochemical process. tapi sebab i nak rasa yakin, i only use the star brand yang ada tanda halal. tak payah pening fikir. depa ada all the basic colors like yellow, red, green, blue and some others, so kalau nak warna yang secondary macam orange, purple ke apa, i just mix them myself. senang cerita. betul tak? sebanya IFANCA pun tak boleh nak kata all food dyes/colorings are halal unless the synthetic ones (tapi only in pure form).
tapi kalau flavorings, lebih kena hati-hati sebab selalunya ada alcohol, especially yang import. some are certified Kosher Preve tapi Kosher tak semestinya Halal. again, i only use the star brand sebab ada halal certification.
err...cina punya ke? tapi brg dia ada sijil halal... aaaa
i think you mean SRI NONA yang ada buat ketupat, kristal jeli dan other food tu kan? yang tu memang ada tanda halal (walaupun cert depa dah expire bulan 10 - i baru check kat jakimhalal.gov.my - but they have 4 months to apply for a new one) so kalau brand Nona keluaran Sri Nona Food Industries Sdn. Bhd. memang yakinlah. ni website nya: http://www.nona.com.my/
tapi kalau "nona" yang jual bakery ingredients yang pek kecil-kecil tu or tupperware kecil jual nuts, tepung ke apa tu that's a different company. yang tu is Nona Brands Malaysia Sdn Bhd and kilang dia kat Penang. yang ni cina punya and their products do not have halal certification. logo dia yang macam ada chef pakai topi tu. nona ni tak ada website yang i jumpa. tapi dalam halal direktori kat jakin memang ia tak ada cert Halal. (barang-barang ni mahal and selalunya pun i tengok tak elok je nampak. nuts macam dah berbubuk dsb.)
bezakan dengan logo Nona yang ada halal cert tu. tapi memang ramai yang ingat sama je sebab nama "nona" gak. 
i hope that whatever info i share dapat memanafaatkan kita bersama. kalau ada yang silap, jom sama-sama kita cari kepastian. :handshake:
bukan nak kata i ni baik alim sesangat tapi kalau bab makanan ni sebab akan jadi darah daging (especially i ada anak-anak dan selalu buat untuk orang) terpanggil untuk lebih teliti sikit. oftentimes, i tengok ramai orang melayu (Islam, i presume) tak kisah sangat. beli je whatever ada kat kedai bakeri supplies tu.  ada juga yang argue kata nak check semua susahlah macam tu. well, like i said many times, bukan semua kena check, tapi benda-benda yang kita tahu mungkin mengandungi bahan haram. apapun, masing-masing punya penilaian dan pendirian. :victory:
[ Last edited by ayjay at 13-2-2008 12:24 AM ] |
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Originally posted by remizati at 12-2-2008 05:32 PM
sebut pasal JCO ngan Big Apple tuh...mmg populr kat pavilion, siap beratur lagik....
arituh mmg ada teringin nak try...tapi cam berat jerks....
i know. tapi kalau fikir balik, tak rugi pun. buat sendiri lagi best. yakin halal, bersih and made of quality ingredients. bakeries ni selalunya guna filling yang jenis bulk tong besar tu. bukannya sedap pun. i pernah terpacak kat both outlets saja tengok how they make them. i tengok dia bagi doh tu naik sampai like 4 times kot. ish ish. angin je banyak.  remizati, better safe than sorry. :flower: mungkin satu hari nanti depa dapat Halal cert, then bolehlah cuba. itulah i kata, kalau kita sebagai consumers prihatin, we can force them to obtain the cert sebab ramai customernya melayu (islam) and kalau betul depa guna semua barangan Halal tak ada sebab they can't get it, betul tak? |
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to puan ayjay....
many thanks for sharing very good info....keep it writing... |
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Originally posted by ayjay at 13-2-2008 12:13 AM 
glycerin is a sugar alcohol meaning it's a derivative of carbohydrates like sucrose, etc. the standard code is E422. It also functions as an emulsifier. and in the case of making fondant/gun ...
tq for answering my questions. Tak perasan plak ada 2 brand nona rupanya. Tapi Maisya dah check tadi, nona yg kat penang tu NONA BRANDS MALAYSIA SDN BHD( formerly known as Nona Spices & Pastry Products Sdn Bhd ) ada jugak dapat sijil halal dari jakim cuma dah tamat tempoh since 15/11/2007.
http://jaipp.penang.gov.my/produk_halal.html
http://www.halaljakim.gov.my/directory/halaldir_syk.php?type=A&PageNo=168&t=&a=&cap=&name= |
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Originally posted by maisya at 13-2-2008 08:15 AM
tq for answering my questions. Tak perasan plak ada 2 brand nona rupanya. Tapi Maisya dah check tadi, nona yg kat penang tu NONA BRANDS MALAYSIA SDN BHD( formerly known as Nona Spices & Pastr ...
oh, ok. i cuma check with jakim punya website and tak ada sijil Halal. kalau tamat tempoh, when you key in their product code, it will still appear if baru expire sebab depa ada 4 months untuk renew/reapply. macam Sri Nona pun baru expire bulan 10 dulu so by end of this month they should have renewed it or apply baru.
tapi kan pada barangan nona (topi chef) tu tak ada tanda Halal. barangan Nona (sri nona) ada cap Halal.
tak apalah ... good discussion and 'research' kan? terpulanglah kepada masing-masing. personally i memang tak beli barangan nona (topi chef) sebab like i said, mahal terlampau and tak ada visual appeal.
sama-sama kita lihat nanti if both brands ada sijil tak by next month. :handshake:
(alangkah ideal nya kalau badan-badan macam PPIM or CAP ke work in tandem with the Health Dept ... boleh buat spot check kat 'kilang-kilang' ni bukan hanya dari segi Halal or Haram but also dari aspek hygiene. especially kilang pembungkus makanan seperti nona (topi chef) tu. depa ni jenis beli everything in bulk and re-pack saja.) |
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Nak tumpang tya ckitt...Mozarella cheese apa yg halal kat msia ni? Tgk kat Tesco...ada cheese tu...tp x de cop halal pun...
Boleh tak kengkawan share brand apa yg u all selalu guna???tq ye... |
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Cuba tgk brand Bega atau Coon dari Australia. Diaorg ni ada chop halal dari AFIC |
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Post time 12-2-2008 11:18 AM
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