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[Tempatan] V25 MH370: PETUNJUK BARU BERCANGGAH DENGAN MAKLUMAT TERDAHULU

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Post time 1-4-2014 06:10 PM | Show all posts
lorelai posted on 1-4-2014 05:57 PM
oooo ni x lengkap ke

mcm garble garble (read: kill kill die die die)

akak tak cakap transkrip itu tak lengkap, maksud akak mreka terikat dengan perudangan antarabangsa salam siasatan untuk dedah2 bukti itu.
bukan semua benda boleh main dedah sahaja seperti terkandung dalam akta ini, sebab itu akak enggan assume benda yg akak tak tahu, nanti jadi cerita lain sebab banyak sangat assumption nya.


OBJECTIVE OF THE INVESTIGATION
3.1 The sole objective of the investigation of an accident or incident shall be the prevention of accidents and
incidents. It is not the purpose of this activity to apportion blame or liability.
PROTECTION OF EVIDENCE, CUSTODY AND
REMOVAL OF AIRCRAFT
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE STATE
OF OCCURRENCE
General
3.2 The State of Occurrence shall take all reasonable measures to protect the evidence and to maintain safe
custody of the aircraft and its contents for such a period as may be necessary for the purposes of an investigation.
Protection of evidence shall include the preservation, by photographic or other means of any evidence which might be
removed, effaced, lost or destroyed. Safe custody shall include protection against further damage, access by
unauthorized persons, pilfering and deterioration.
Note 1.— Control over the wreckage is dealt with in 5.6.
Note 2.— Protection of flight recorder evidence requires that the recovery and handling of the recorder and its
recordings be assigned only to qualified personnel

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Post time 1-4-2014 06:12 PM | Show all posts
lorelai posted on 1-4-2014 06:08 PM
tp diorg
patot kontek tudm lps ni kan..
lps perbualan ni..

dato DCA hari neh cracked under pressure...

biar dia jawap..

ke cracked pasal takut nak jawap neh juga?

let it be.. gajah memang sedang menari2 depan mata..

yet, rakyat masih nak meneropong carik kuman kat US lah.. kat China lah..

kita join je yukk..
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Post time 1-4-2014 06:13 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Changa posted on 1-4-2014 10:10 AM
akak tak cakap transkrip itu tak lengkap, maksud akak mreka terikat dengan perudangan antarabangsa ...

hmm setujulah
sbb the whole world da sgt tertarik dgn kes ni..

jadi x boleh slack. nnt menjadi bahan kecaman ummah antarabangsa.

maka crashed until proven not so
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Post time 1-4-2014 06:17 PM | Show all posts
lorelai posted on 1-4-2014 06:08 PM
tp diorg
patot kontek tudm lps ni kan..
lps perbualan ni..

lepas mereka sign off akak rasa ATC subang dah habis tanggungjawab, lepas itu tanggungjawab ATC saigon pula?
kalau saigon tak terima kontek dari mh370 baharu mereka kena refer to ATC subang balik??
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Post time 1-4-2014 06:18 PM | Show all posts
NURMIMIE posted on 1-4-2014 02:00 PM
ok bang..

thanks..

hehe relax la..  memang pun you all tak perlu tau semua tu..
I pun kalau bidang medical, law, selain dari aviation kena refer yang pakar juga..
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Post time 1-4-2014 06:21 PM | Show all posts
NURMIMIE posted on 1-4-2014 06:12 PM
dato DCA hari neh cracked under pressure...

biar dia jawap..
gajah memang sedang menari2 depan mata..
yet, rakyat masih nak meneropong carik kuman kat US lah.. kat China lah..

maksudmu? cer elaborate sikit .....

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Post time 1-4-2014 06:22 PM | Show all posts
JunkMail posted on 1-4-2014 05:54 PM
takde pelik pon transkrip utk org keje kuli mcm aku ni baca.
cuma bab last2 tu pilot respon lambat ...

mmm.. mcm sesuatu last 6 conversation.
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Post time 1-4-2014 06:22 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Changa posted on 1-4-2014 10:17 AM
lepas mereka sign off akak rasa ATC subang dah habis tanggungjawab, lepas itu tanggungjawab ATC sa ...

mungkin tp bukankah mereka berpatah balek dalam ruang udara msia yg nyaman. ke saya sudah silap disini kaka changa?
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Post time 1-4-2014 06:27 PM | Show all posts
budakpink posted on 1-4-2014 04:33 PM
Ni lg sekor aku nyampah...aku ni seyusly pnyokong pkr tp aku nyampah betol klu dieorg ni suke nk k ...

I like to agree very much with u.  Saya juga sukalah nak mengimbau kpd pemimpin2 pkr and also others, tolonglah mengerti (pse try to understand) betapa susahnya pihak kerajaan kita cuba sedaya upaya menerima dn memikul tanggungjawab menghadapi musibah MH370 ni.  Bukankah kita sendiri sudah saksikan mll tv, mll internet, pc demi pc, semuanya mengajak kita berfikir sama. Cubalah kita menjawab, apakah mudah kita nak cari kehilangan MH370 ni.  Tentu tak mudah kan?  Jawablah dgn jujur dn ikhlas, jgn beri jawapan yg penuh dgn hasad iri sedangkan kalau kita dipertanggungjawab pun, belum tentu terlaksana oleh kita.

Pselah.  Bersikaplah sewajarnya kalaupun mahu mengkritik.  Yg mana patut, kita hargailah kerana kita juga belum tentu mampu.  Jgnlah Azmin nak tuduh menteri lari drp kewajipan sedangkan menteri ke Hawaii adalah menggalas tugas negara.  Sabarlah, nanti bila menteri balek, aturlah program untuk buat pertemuan.  To others, also to Mr. LGE, pse hold your critic for a while.  Tolonglah jgn menangguk di air yg keruh sedangkan pihak kerajaan bersusah payah nak jernihkn keadaan.

Dlm keadaan spt ini, ayuhlah rakyat M'sia bersatu hati, doa bersama semoga misteri mh370 dpt diselesaikan dgn baiknya.  Di kala orang luar mula memburuk2kan negara M'sia kenapa kita sendiri nak ikut jejak yg sama.  Untuk seketika, keutuhan negara haruslah diutamakan.
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Post time 1-4-2014 06:29 PM | Show all posts
lorelai posted on 1-4-2014 06:22 PM
mungkin tp bukankah mereka berpatah balek dalam ruang udara msia yg nyaman. ke saya sudah silap di ...

masa berpatah balik ATC radar dah tak boleh detect sis.
mereka dah off transponder tika itu.

perlu di ingat ATC radar tidak boleh detect pesawat yg off transponder nya.
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Post time 1-4-2014 06:30 PM | Show all posts
MelahJanda posted on 1-4-2014 05:12 PM
memandnagkan kita semua setuju je ngan apa feeds from our beloved government
apa kata kita tutup je ...

saya pon rase sebegitu kak.
org yang takde kaitan dgn famili pon udah letih memikirkannya..berteka teki inikan pulak famili.

tapikan xde ke famili2 mangsa mimpi ape2 ke.
saya lebih suka teori mimpi2 sbb dah letih
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Post time 1-4-2014 06:31 PM | Show all posts
myzuria posted on 1-4-2014 04:32 PM
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Ada banyak benda saya nak kongsikan sebagai pemanas badan sebelum artikel Final ...

MH370: Time for a national examination of conscience

BY ADMIN · 31 MARCH 2014



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The real problem is the ‘Malaysia boleh’ propaganda that has reduced the nation to a state where many nations now know we are not all that ‘boleh’ after all, observes J D Lovrenciear.

The Boeing MH770 tragedy has spilled into the international sphere harsh realities about Malaysia.
Unless and until there is national will, involvement and interest in rectifying our national political agenda, Malaysia can only sink further in global confidence.
Even before we can come out of this unprecedented disaster, our nation is already being plagued with reports of three consecutive potential disasters involving three more flights from Malaysia.
We had the Nepal accident, the Hong Kong emergency and now the Subang case.
Do we continue to tell the world that Malaysia is following all SOP required to guarantee the global audience of safe flights?
Or do we invite the VVIP bomoh who claims to have leaders and illustrious individuals as clients to cast a magic spell for better air safety?
Or shall we reprimand all Malaysian citizens to shut up and stop ‘speculating’ and let the authorities to do their job?
It appears therefore that our national slogan of ‘Malaysia boleh’ could well be the root of all ills that are beginning to be unearthed one after another.
Yes, in their political expediency to continue to wrest a strangle-hold in ensuring that the world’s longest-serving government remains in power, we have created a misplaced believe that truly ‘Malaysia boleh’.
Greatest and the best?
We have created an entrenched belief system that Malaysia is the greatest, the best, the infallible, the know-all.
The debacle over the “Allah” issue – a verdict that seems to go against the world’s opinions – is a classic example to attest that indeed our arrogance has crossed the limits of moral decency as is observed and revered by sensible nations on planet earth.
The complete silence and continuing ignoring of calls to resolve with justice the Altantuya murder is another example of our armour of ‘who cares’ attitude.
Malaysians must pause and ask: What would have been the eventuality if that victim had been a US citizen or China national?
The blatant bashing of the opposition leader with sodomy charges despite the world crying foul well reflects our “Malaysia boleh” arrogance.
The use of our race-based policies and religious discrimination is well known in the world and the United Nations has also raised the alarm loud and clear. But the ‘Malaysia boleh’ spirit runs with speed giving a deaf ear, a blind eye and frozen heart to these concerns.
We think that just because we have the Twin Towers; just because we have a mega airport; just because we have expressways spanning north and south of the nation; just because we have a growing economy – we are great.
We pride ourselves even more with our ‘Malaysia boleh’ badge of seeming honour. And that ‘Malaysia boleh’ fever has gone even further.
Superficial mentality
Just because our leaders can spend, spend and spend and court the rich and famous and jet in and jet out on private and government planes; just because some can have branded handbags that only the billionaires club court; just because some can flaunt diamonds and pearls and drive Rolls Royce with a garage of more Ferraris, Porches and what-have-you; just because billions can be apportioned for the who’s who and continue with business as usual – we pride ourselves even more with our ‘Malaysia boleh’ mantra.
No. We need humility. We need honesty. We need moral decency anchored in our souls. We need courage. We need a commitment to the millions more who are yet to be born in this nation. We need to know now, in the wake of this aircraft disaster that has global impact, that Malaysia cannot be all that ‘Boleh’.
We need to accept that corruption is our biggest enemy. We need to know that political hegemony has enslaved the nation. We need to re-discover that all the cries of ‘Balik India” and “Balik Cina” and the “pendatang” labels that have been hurled around are evidence of a nation that is going seriously wrong.
We know now that our police investigations are not up to the 21stcentury mark, which the prime minister himself attested recently. We know now that our military’s capability is suspect. We know too now that our leaders cannot deliver world-class presentations to the global audience when tested to the core. We also know now that our defence machinery is not a standard to be paraded – as in the case of a submarine that cannot be any help.
MH370, the last call for Malaysia
If this aircraft disaster does not awaken Malaysians then certainly nothing will. We will remain as the proverbial frog in the slow cooking pot.
The real enemy of this nation is not the opposition. The real culprit is not the citizens. The real problem is not the Bersih rallies. It is this ‘Malaysia boleh’ propaganda that has reduced the nation to a state where many nations now will know we are not all that ‘boleh’ after all.
Now Malaysians will have to come together and ask, what is this ‘Malaysia Boleh’ that we have been screaming our lungs out all these 30-over years?



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Post time 1-4-2014 06:32 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Changa posted on 1-4-2014 10:29 AM
masa berpatah balik ATC radar dah tak boleh detect sis.
mereka dah off transponder tika itu.


owh benarin itu..
bimbo seketika..

tp atc vietnam memaklumkan telah kontek2 atc kita. tp tadop jawapan.. atc vietnam mungkin tipu disini..
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Post time 1-4-2014 06:33 PM | Show all posts
mziskandar posted on 1-4-2014 06:22 PM
mmm.. mcm sesuatu last 6 conversation.

akak lebih percaya abang pilot.
sis rasa??
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Post time 1-4-2014 06:35 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10152083772426961&id=60878026960&_rdr

komik relief seketika..

to bro thome. i agree with thr article..

tanpa soalan, takkan ada kemajuan.
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Post time 1-4-2014 06:36 PM | Show all posts
NURMIMIE posted on 1-4-2014 10:04 AM
tu yang kena tanya ATC banyak neh..

ATC yang banyak grabled neh kan..

grabled ke nurmimie

garbled tu bukan sengaja nak di sorok rasanya
cuma cannot decipher saja kot
kurang jelas apa yg dickpkan

kadang2 bila dengar org ckp in a muffled manner kita tak tahu atau kurang jelas butir percakapan

contohnya bila dlm flight ada announcement kan?

nak ckp Tuan2 dan Puan2... sila tegakkan tempat duduk anda
tp dengar mcm ton2 dan pon2...


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Post time 1-4-2014 06:40 PM | Show all posts
boleh gila rasanya kalau dok fikir putar belit kona baring kenyataan Malaysia ni
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Post time 1-4-2014 06:46 PM | Show all posts
@lorelai, ur avator masih memeningkan mata.  Pse tukar avator yg lain, pse
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Post time 1-4-2014 06:46 PM | Show all posts
JunkMail posted on 1-4-2014 05:54 PM
takde pelik pon transkrip utk org keje kuli mcm aku ni baca.
cuma bab last2 tu pilot respon lambat ...

Ya... ATC 1:08  dan pada 1:19 baru MH370 jawap... ambik masa 10 minit... normalkah? @kelana36
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Post time 1-4-2014 06:50 PM | Show all posts
Changa posted on 1-4-2014 06:33 PM
akak lebih percaya abang pilot.
sis rasa??

12:50:06 | atc | malaysian three seven zero climb flight level three five zero
12:50:09 | 370 | flight level three five zero malaysian three seven zero
01:01:14 | 370 | malaysian three seven zero maintaining level three five zero

01:07:19 | atc | malaysian three seven zero (mungkin request status)
01:07:55 | 370 | malaysian.. three seven zero maintaining level three five zero

01:08:00 | atc | malaysian three seven zero (tanya lagi.. mungkin x dengar / info x match dgn transponder)

(gap)

01:19:24 | atc | malaysian three seven zero contact ho chi minh 120 decimal 9 good night
01:19:29 | 370 | good night malaysian three seven zero
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