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[Tempatan] Malaysia was never meant to be an Islamic country, says former IGP

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Post time 21-9-2017 10:08 AM | Show all posts |Read mode
Edited by kampring at 21-9-2017 10:43 AM

KOTA KINABALU: The Federation of Malaysia was never meant to be an Islamic country because if it was, Sabah and Sarawak would never have agreed to it, according to former inspector-general of police Abdul Rahim Mohd Noor.
Speaking at the Malaysia in the Future forum at a hotel in Kota Kinabalu on Tuesday, Rahim said when the idea of Malaysia was mooted, religion was the main issue addressed by the Cobbold Commission.

“The people in the Bornean states, all of them, regardless of race and religion, did not want an official religion for the new federation. The demand was reasonable. After all, there are many Muslim-majority countries in the world that do not have Islam as their official religion, for example Egypt and Indonesia, a country with the highest number of Muslim’s in the world,” he said.

However, he pointed out, the situation was different in West Malaysia at the time and even to this day.
More and more, he said, there was a tendency among the Malays to be more Arabic than the Arabs.
He recalled an incident with a relative who claimed that the Arabic alphabets belonged to Muslims, as opposed to Roman alphabets.

“Of course she has limited education. But it seems that not many people realise, or at best they choose to ignore, that the Middle East is home to not just Muslims, but other people from other religions too,” he said.
He noted a frightening trend among the ruling elites: they are bending over backwards and submitting to the will of those who use religion to garner support from increasingly religious masses.

This inclination, he said, was, so far, restricted to certain areas in Peninsular Malaysia but he believed it could take a turn for the worse if not curbed by the authorities.
Religious conflicts, he said, would become too hot an issue if the Federal Government continued to succumb to pressure and become too Islamic.

“If we continue down this line, it will destabilise the federation and maybe at that time, Sabah and Sarawak will think again whether they want to continue to be in Malaysia or whether they should leave,” he said.

Personally, Rahim said, he preferred the model used by Indonesia’s Pancasila where no one religion was declared official. The Pancasila is part of the preamble to the Indonesian Constitution of 1945.
After 54 years, he said Malaysia was still searching for its own identity as the people remained divided, each identifying themselves according to their race and tribes.

It was worse, he added, when the people in Sabah and Sarawak did not feel they had anything in common with their fellow citizens in West Malaysia.

“We must admit that apart from having the same colonial master, West Malaysians and East Malaysians are totally different, culturally and historically. We are still far away from creating a Malaysian race.
“Throwing religion into the equation will only further complicate this quest,” he concluded.
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Post time 21-9-2017 10:13 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Perlu ke agama?
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Post time 21-9-2017 10:14 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Sebot pasal freedom.....tapi Orang nak jadi Arab Wannabe pon kau kepoh...
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Post time 21-9-2017 10:18 AM | Show all posts
Interesting...
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Post time 21-9-2017 10:24 AM | Show all posts
malaysia ni hybrid



tak 100% sekular tak 100% negara Islam
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Post time 21-9-2017 11:08 AM | Show all posts
nape negare haibat dan maju menjadikan indon sebagai contoh dalam konstitusi bernegare?? tidak mungkin asas  negare isle malaysie lebih buruk berbanding dengan negare pprt indon  
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Post time 21-9-2017 11:11 AM | Show all posts
sekular sistem terbaik.....baru fair utk semua orang.
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Post time 21-9-2017 11:12 AM | Show all posts

teringin sgt nk menuju ke achehistan, afghanistan, pakistan
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Post time 21-9-2017 11:23 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
nobito replied at 21-9-2017 10:14 AM
Sebot pasal freedom.....tapi Orang nak jadi Arab Wannabe pon kau kepoh...

Sebab yang nak jadi ereb tu paksa semua orang pun jadi macam dia juga
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Post time 21-9-2017 11:23 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
dizzzek replied at 21-9-2017 11:12 AM
teringin sgt nk menuju ke achehistan, afghanistan, pakistan

Akak nak pindah balik moscow lah macam ni
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Post time 21-9-2017 11:26 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Syukur kita ada agama rasmi persekutuan...islam dan kita amat berbangga dengannya..tq judge from pakistan yg masukkan klausa ni dlm perlmbagaan
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Post time 21-9-2017 11:29 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
ugama bebas dalam sabah

UGAMA BEBAS DALAM SABAH


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Post time 21-9-2017 12:03 PM | Show all posts
Edited by cmf_shalom at 21-9-2017 12:30 PM

Lama dh tau....

Islam agama Persekutuan..hanya TERHAD  bagi tujuan protokol dan istiadat sahaja..

Sebab itu agensi Persekutuan spt JAKIM tidak mempunyai kuasa..setakat bagi pandangan berkaitan hal ehwal agama sahaja..

Tapi if federal nak sangat dengan dasar Islamisasinya ..aku quote ayat ini..

“If we continue down this line, it will destabilise the federation and maybe at that time, Sabah and Sarawak will think again whether they want to continue to be in Malaysia or whether they should leave,


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Post time 21-9-2017 12:12 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Apa nak buat, muslim di semenanjung dah step by step hakis hak non muslim
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Post time 21-9-2017 12:12 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Apa nak buat, muslim di semenanjung dah step by step hakis hak non muslim
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Post time 21-9-2017 12:19 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
pulauturtle replied at 21-9-2017 12:12 PM
Apa nak buat, muslim di semenanjung dah step by step hakis hak non muslim

Ko tak suka? Boley berambus naik tongsan ke china jd penternak babi

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Post time 21-9-2017 12:47 PM | Show all posts
masalah terbesar golongan pariah ugama nak paksa org ikut cara hidup dia yang kununnya lebih islam dari org lain contohnya, pompuan kena berbungkus kepala, tak boleh ucap RIP, merry Christmas dll benda mengarut, pergi mengendap org berduaan dalam bilik hotel then tangkap, jadi polis moral, pegang anjing haram, adakan beer party dilarang, tu namanya menganiaya golongan non muslim dn minority, patung wanita bersayap pun tak boleh tergugat akidah namanya, tadika mubaligh budak2 muslim nak masuk tak bagi, takut terpesong agama budak2 this is crazy, ini adalah kegilaan, this is not acceptable!  fuck those people yang kununnya merasakan dia lah islam sebeneeerrrr nak buat doktrin macam areb padang pasir. nak ikut mazhab lain haram, hanya mazhab sapiee sahaja, ni semua lah menyebabkan golongan muslim tak tertarik nak masuk islam di malaysia ni, tu belum lagi hanya doakan org muslim yang ditimpa bencana aje, org kapir memang tak kan didoa lah kan, this is not what islam taught.
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Post time 21-9-2017 12:49 PM | Show all posts
secular is the best system yet more islamic.
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Post time 21-9-2017 12:51 PM | Show all posts



Walaupun ada gerakan nak jadikan Malaysia ni negara Islam..mereka tau bahawa mereka tidak boleh merubah hakikat Perlembagaan negara adalah sekular..

Jadi selama ni mereka buat gerakan secara haluss.....

Nasib baik la lately kesedaran tentang perlembagaan semakin meningkat...terutamanya belah Sabah Sarawak..bahawasanya Persekutuan Malaysia bukan negara Islam..
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