Keturunan Dinasti2 China

jazim

Ada negara yg dulu negara beraja dah jadi republik termasuk China kuasa ekonomi yg berpotensi di benua Asia. Mcm yg kita tahu, Cina ada banyak dinasti - masih wujudkah keturunan kerabat dinasti tu semua sekarang?

terrence

well even they do exist.. the government would deny 'em.

anyway the last manchu emperor; henry puyi, died as a commoner. living his last years as a gardener. to us chinese it's good riddance to all these monarchs anyway. there were good ones undeniable but the monarchy system is totally irrelevant to these times.

cheers

taiaha

jazim, ni ade link menarik:

http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/history/A0811912.html

riccckyyy

ini pun ada link dinasti China yg terakhir; http://www.4dw.net/royalark/China/china.htm

The Manchu Dynasty (Ta Ch'ing Ch'ao)

BRIEF HISTORY

The Ch'ing dynasty is of Manchurian nomadic origin. They rose to prominence in their home province during the late sixteenth century. Nurhachi, Prince of the Jurgen clan, conquered Manchuria and proclaimed himself Emperor of the Mongol hordes in 1606. He established a new state in 1616 and called it T'a Ch'ing Kuo (the Empire of Great Purity) and his dynasty the Chin. Inheriting a remarkably successful military machine, his sons were able to extend his empire deep into Chinese territory. The T'ai Tsung Emperor changed the name of the dynasty in 1636 to Ta Ch'ing Ch'ao (the Great Pure Dynasty) instead of Chin, a phrase having negative connotations in Chinese. After a lengthy power struggle, exacerbated by a weakened Ming dynasty, his grandson entered Peking and mounted the Imperial throne in 1643. The Shih-tsu Emperor was merely five years old. His successor, the Sh阯g Tsu Emperor enjoyed a long and remarkable reign of sixty years. After some notable early successes in extending dominion over Tibet, Mongolia and Taiwan, Shih-tsu's successors ruled over a stagnant and decaying empire for the next two centuries. By the middle of the nineteenth century, it had become prey to internal factions, prone to sporadic rebellions increasingly subjected to humiliations by foreign powers. Significant military defeats in 1860, 1895 and 1900 resulted in the cession of territories to Russia, Japan, Britain, France and Germany. Each of whom also enjoyed significant extra-territorial rights and commercial privileges within the rest of China. During most of this period the Empire was dominated by the Grand Empress Dowager Tzu Hsi.

A former concubine of the Emperor Hsien-f阯g, Tzu Hsi rose to prominence through intrigue and sheer guile. Reactionary, vindictive, malicious, she presided over a period of decline opposing every reform, every attempt at progress and development. Although a far reaching reform programme was planned and implementation begun after her long overdue death in 1908, these came too late and too slowly to forestall catastrophe. A pro-republican uprising in 1911, after a period of bitter civil war, prompted the regent to abdicate temporal authority on behalf of the child Emperor Hs黙n-t'ung. The Articles of Favourable Treatment of 1912 and other documents which constituted the act of transferring power to the republic, guaranteed the continuation of ranks and titles in perpetuity, to the Emperor himself, to his family, members of the Imperial clan, and to servants of the Imperial household. In all respects, the Emperor was to be accorded honours and privileges by the republican authorities, in the same manner as a foreign sovereign.

The first official President of the Republic, Marshal Yuan Shi Kai, acceptedthe Imperial throne on 11th December 1916, after instigating a corrupt campaign of memorials and petitions in his favour. He set about planning an enthronement ceremony and created fifty titles of nobility, including a princedom of the first rank, for his Vice-President Li Yuan-hung. His plans proved generally unpopular and were postponed several times, before his death in June 1917.

The republican regimes which followed were weak, ineffectual, and ridden by factionalism and corruption. Governments rose and fell in rapid succession. Presidents and Prime Ministers came and went out of office with surprising speed. Warlords ruled in the provinces, seized great cities and occaisionally took the capital. The capital itself being transferred from city to city, depending on which general happened to hold power at any given time. One coup d'閠at followed another. After yet another coup d'閠at, the dictatorship headed by General Huang Fu, abrogated the Articles of Favourable Treatment and expelled the Emperor from the Forbidden City on the 5th of November 1924. An act never actually confirmed by any legal or constitutional process, then or since.

In the meantime, Japan intervened increasingly in the north and east, seizing Manchuria, parts of Inner Mongolia, and eventually significant areas of China proper. At their behest, the former Emperor was restored in 1934 under the reign name of K'ang Teh. He became Emperor of Manchuria (Manchutikuo), or incorrectly but popularly known as Manchukuo, the ancient homeland of his house which had taken no part in the revolutionary upheaval of 1911. He fell into Russian Communist hands at the close of the Second World War, was turned over to the Chinese Communists in 1949, and spent the next ten years in prisons and re-education centres. Freed in 1959, he returned to Peking, became a gardener and later a member of the National People's Congress. Better known by his personal name of P'u-yi, the former Emperor lived out his days in the rambling old mansion of his father, the former Regent. The official report says that he died from cancer in 1967, but according to unofficial rumour, from the effects of wounds received during severe torture and mutilation, at the hands of "cultural revolutionaries".

cina berasal dari Sin bin Noh a.s (anak Nabi Noh Alaihissalam)
kalau mengaji pondok boleh jumpa benda nih....
kalau ngaji arkeologi tak tahula ada ka tidak..

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taiaha

Originally posted by kassimbaba at 31-10-2005 08:48 PM
cina berasal dari Sin bin Noh a.s (anak Nabi Noh Alaihissalam)
kalau mengaji pondok boleh jumpa benda nih....
kalau ngaji arkeologi tak tahula ada ka tidak..

The fact that there has been archaeological finds to indicate the presence of past civilisations-the answer to the last statement is-yes.

Originally posted by taiaha at 1-11-2005 11:56 AM


The fact that there has been archaeological finds to indicate the presence of past civilisations-the answer to the last statement is-yes.

sebabnya??

HangPC2

Keturunan Dinasti Ming dah pupus sebab Putera Terakhir Dinasti Ming Dibunuh Oleh Tentera Manchu (Dinasti Qing @ Ching) di burma selepas mendapat perlindungan politik oleh raja burma tapi atas desakan dan tekanan Dinasti Qing maka raja burma terpaksa menyerahkan putera dinasti ming lalu dibunuh

The Prince of Gui  the Yongli Emperor, was an emperor of the Southern Ming Dynasty in China. He was the last surviving Southern Ming emperor who lived long enough to see the collapse of the last vestiges of the Ming dynasty in mainland China. Born Zhu Youlang  sometime in 1623, to Zhu Changying  the son of the Chongzhen emperor, who hanged himself in 1644 when the Qing invaded Beijing. The Yongli emperor, who is commonly known as The Prince of Gui, actually inherited this title from his brother.

At the age of 21 on 18 November 1646, the young Prince ascended the throne and assumed the reign name of Yongli. He initially established himself in Guangzhou, the capital of Canton, but as the Ming troops were unable fend off the stronger Qing troops who were continuously sending reinforcements south towards Guangzhou, the Yongli emperor had no choice but to flee in 1650 from Guangzhou towards Nanning in order to save his life. However, as Wu Sangui's troops exerted a further pressure against his at that time current location, the Prince of Gui eventually retreated to Kunming in Yunnan in 1659 and into Burma in 1661, seeking refuge from the Burmese King.

The Burmese king, however, was feeling frightened that he will also lose his own kingdom as well if he continued to offer the Prince of Gui further protection. Having no choice, the King let in Wu Sangui's troops and let them arrest the Prince of Gui. In the process, most of his concubines and eunuchs along with the small army, were either killed while defending him or they had ran away. The Prince of Gui was finally strangled to death by Wu Sangui in April 1662.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_of_Gui

HangPC2

Keturunan Dinasti Qing sekarang ni tak dapat kembali ke China Menetap kat amerika dan Jepun dan berkahwin dengan kerabat maharaja Jepun...

Kisah tentang Maharaja China  terakhir Versi Drama Jepun tajuk Dier Ryuuten no Ouhi. Saigo no Koutei







Gambar Sebenar Putera Pu Yi (Xuantong Emperor / Aishinkakura Fuketsu)  Dan Aishinkakura (Saga) Hiro











[ Last edited by HangPC2 at 10-11-2005 10:50 AM ]

hamizao

By kassimbaba

cina berasal dari Sin bin Noh a.s (anak Nabi Noh Alaihissalam)
kalau mengaji pondok boleh jumpa benda nih....
kalau ngaji arkeologi tak tahula ada ka tidak..

Ya ke?. Setahu sy Noh ada 3 orang anak yang terselamat dari banjir besar, yaitu Shem, Japeth dan Ham. Mengikut catatan sy cucu Ham dari anak beliau, Canaan, ada bernama Sin. Mungkin Sin yg ini kot?  :hmm::hmm:

jazim

Originally posted by hamizao at 15-11-2005 01:41 AM
By kassimbaba


Ya ke?. Setahu sy Noh ada 3 orang anak yang terselamat dari banjir besar, yaitu Shem, Japeth dan Ham. Mengikut catatan sy cucu Ham dari anak beliau, Canaan, ada bernama Sin. Mung ...

Japeth ni asal-usul org Jepun kot?

HangPC2

Originally posted by jazim at 29-11-2005 07:34 PM


Japeth ni asal-usul org Jepun kot?

tak dapat dipastikan...

btho

Wah!
Another interesting thread!!!!

hamizao

Originally posted by jazim at 29-11-2005 07:34 PM


Japeth ni asal-usul org Jepun kot?

Japeth dikatakan "Father of Indo-Europead race", Shem "Father of Israelites & Arabs" dan Ham "Father of the black race" - orang2 Egypt, Libya & Ethiopia. Mengikut cerita, Ham telah bersama dengan salah seorang ibu tirinya yg berketurunan Cain(anak Adam AS) dan mendapat seorang anak bernama Canaan. Itulah sebabnya apabila orang2 Hebrew (keturunan Hud AS atau Aber) masuk ke Canaan semua penduduk di situ di bunuh. Ini mengikut biblical evidence.

Asal usul bangsa di dunia ni amat rumit sebenarnya. Ada yang percayakan evolusi primate ...survival of the fittest....mengikut tiori Darwin. Ada yang mengikut tiori Creation. Kalau mengikut kajian archaeology, lain pula ceritanya....

[ Last edited by hamizao at 2-12-2005 01:54 AM ]

Hello Semua..Orang Baru Kat Sini...Aku Cukup Minat Dengan Dinasti China Ni...Favourite Aku..Romance Of 3 Kingdom

taiaha

Originally posted by kassimbaba at 2-11-2005 12:07 AM


sebabnya??

I already answered you.

taiaha

Originally posted by chocobo at 2-12-2005 05:06 PM
Hello Semua..Orang Baru Kat Sini...Aku Cukup Minat Dengan Dinasti China Ni...Favourite Aku..Romance Of 3 Kingdom

http://www.threekingdoms.com/

taiaha

The British Museum is a good place to do research on ancient civilisations.Since this thread is on Chinese dynasties etc, here's a link to the British Museum, focusing on ancient China:

http://www.ancientchina.co.uk/menu.html

hamizao

Dinasti Cina yang tertua didalam rekod saya ia lah zaman separa-mitos yaini dalam lengkongan selepas 3000BCE. Ada di riwayatkan tentang "Yellow Emperor", Huang-ti (bukan Shih Huang Ti) yang boleh bercakap selepas dilahirkan. Ia telah mengajar penduduk2 asli di situ pengetahuan sains.

Kononnya, ibunya telah mengandung 25 bulan selepas "terkena kilat". Dikatakan balai rongsrinya didatangi manusia/makhluk  yang pelik2.....seperti makhluk yang mempunyai lubang di tengah2 badan dan berkaki panjang. Apabila nak mengangkat barang dimasukkan kayu dalam lubang itu!

Wah teringat saya kat cerita2 di Sumeria berkenaan makhluk2 yang datang dari angkasa lepas.

Semasa dinasti ini juka munculnya burung Phoenix hanya apabila negeri di tadbir dengan baik dan aman.

Allahwa'allam.

[ Last edited by hamizao at 5-12-2005 12:54 PM ]

HangPC2

Semasa dinasti ini juka munculnya burung Phoenix hanya apabila negeri di tadbir dengan baik dan aman.

citer pasal burung lagenda ni jika burung tiada pada sesuatu negeri. negeri akan mengalami bala bencana seperti kebuluran dan kemarau.... itu yg aku dengar citer lah