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Post time 10-1-2007 04:39 PM | Show all posts

Reply #176 katak_gemok's post

nasihat saya, jagalah agama kamu sendiri sebelum nak jaga agama org
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Post time 10-1-2007 04:48 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by DTECCONAN at 10-1-2007 04:38 PM


Lina JOy hidup ke dak lagi sekarang?


Lina hidup sampai sekarang pon sbb kehendak tuhan anda juga. Mungkin juga Lina joy terus dilindungi oleh undang2 secular sbb nak sedarkan tok2 lebai bhw hukum bunuh apostate mmg tak pernah ada dalm islam. Walupun tok2 lebai merancang tapi tuhan anda lagi bagos rancangannya.
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Post time 10-1-2007 04:48 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by katak_gemok at 10-1-2007 04:39 PM
"To give you the benefit, pls let me know part mana yg saya kutuk agama anda????


ops, maknanya ni semua fitnah la yer?
patut la x ada yg suruh MOD lock ruapa2nya fitnah
ataupon memang x kutuk agama Islam tetapi agama Melayu Islam yg sememangnya x wujud
memang x ada la part yg kutuk agama Islam tu?
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Post time 10-1-2007 04:51 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by katak_gemok at 10-1-2007 04:48 PM
Lina hidup sampai sekarang pon sbb kehendak tuhan anda juga. Mungkin juga Lina joy terus dilindungi oleh undang2 secular sbb nak sedarkan tok2 lebai bhw hukum bunuh apostate mmg tak pernah ada dalm islam. Walupun tok2 lebai merancang tapi tuhan anda lagi bagos rancangannya


ops, mcm tu plak hukuman
kalau org tu hidup maknanya dilindungi la
kalau mati tu maknanya dia bersalah
Bush mesti x bersalah sebab tu dia masih hidup
Mungkin tuhan lanjutkan usia dia sebab dia dipihak yg benar
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Post time 10-1-2007 04:54 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by DTECCONAN at 10-1-2007 04:48 PM


ops, maknanya ni semua fitnah la yer?
patut la x ada yg suruh MOD lock ruapa2nya fitnah
ataupon memang x kutuk agama Islam tetapi agama Melayu Islam yg sememangnya x wujud
memang x ada la  ...


Jgan cakap banyak. Mana dia bukti yg kata saya hina Islam. Ingat warga CI suma menanti bukti anda.
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 Author| Post time 10-1-2007 04:54 PM | Show all posts
Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible
By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent



THE hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has published a teaching document instructing the faithful that some parts of the Bible are not actually true.



The Catholic bishops of England, Wales and Scotland are warning their five million worshippers, as well as any others drawn to the study of scripture, that they should not expect 搕otal accuracy
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Post time 10-1-2007 05:06 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by DTECCONAN at 10-1-2007 04:51 PM


ops, mcm tu plak hukuman
kalau org tu hidup maknanya dilindungi la
kalau mati tu maknanya dia bersalah
Bush mesti x bersalah sebab tu dia masih hidup
Mungkin tuhan lanjutkan usia dia seba ...


Adakah tuhan anda buat2 tak tahu Bush itu bersalah ataupon mmg Bush itu di pihak benar???
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 Author| Post time 10-1-2007 05:15 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by katak_gemok at 10-1-2007 05:06 PM


Adakah tuhan anda buat2 tak tahu Bush itu bersalah ataupon mmg Bush itu di pihak benar???



hmmmmm adakah tuhan sengaja membiarkan so call kitab bible terosak sendiri or dirosakan oleh penganutnya?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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 Author| Post time 10-1-2007 06:45 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by DTECCONAN at 10-1-2007 04:51 PM


ops, mcm tu plak hukuman
kalau org tu hidup maknanya dilindungi la
kalau mati tu maknanya dia bersalah
Bush mesti x bersalah sebab tu dia masih hidup
Mungkin tuhan lanjutkan usia dia seba ...



ki ki tu belum cerita pasal pembunuh yang still terlepas , gamak gamak bagi katak gemok , lina joy tu setaraf dgn pembunuh yang masih terlepas kut?
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Post time 10-1-2007 08:56 PM | Show all posts
http://forum.cari.com.my/viewthr ... &extra=page%3D9

Originally posted by katak_gemok at 27-12-2006 02:31 PM
Eliminate all the muftis and take your religion back to the relationship between one and his/her god.

Originally posted by katak_gemok at 27-12-2006 04:23 PM
t makes one wonder if Islam is really such a complex and difficult religion for its followers to comprehend that they are so willing to surrender their endowed powers of reasoning (last time I checked from their own God), and allow their lives to be dictated by such a small group of so-called pious learned men??

Please don't become like a typical Malay Muslim who thinks only those who wear turbans and robes like the goon mufti from Perak have the right to speak about Islam.

Originally posted by katak_gemok at 28-12-2006 10:22 AM

Wonder why Malay Muslims still desire to have these muftis, ulamaks etc to breath down their neck????


jadi apabila si katak mempertikaikan tugas mufti dan ulama' dlm Islam, tidak TERgolong dlm mengutuk agama Islam? apa hak si katak yg dikatakan tidak tahu asal usul agama, nak mempertikaikan hal2 Islam? Mungkin bagi katak, dia x kutuk Islam...............

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Post time 10-1-2007 09:00 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 10-1-2007 04:54 PM
Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible
By Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent



THE hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has published a teaching document instructing ...


Haa...tak betul.....
Dalam al quran pun dah cakap.....
Tapi apa kata Maideen berkenaan bab ini..ingin sekali aku mendengar pendapat dari orang silibis sepertinya...
TQ
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Post time 10-1-2007 09:17 PM | Show all posts
Waktu aku kat sekolah dulu.. aku nie rapat dgn dua orang budak. Kiranya semua orang kat situ tahu kitorang bertiga nie rapat. Aku sorang jer Islam, yg dua tu Kristian. Waktu diorang nak pi gereja pun aku ada temankan... sampai diorang nak suruh aku nie confess pulak kat confession room tu (apa kejadah..). Aper pon, persahabatan tak patut mengira status agama. Aku tengok ramai kawan aku kat Semenanjung nie memang betul2 anti-Kristian, sampai ada yg pijak Bible lah, tak bagi org Kristian masuk rumahlah.. kononnya rosak akidah kalau bawak diorang stay sama kat rumah.
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Post time 10-1-2007 09:28 PM | Show all posts

Reply #192 Muntz's post

kesian dengan kisah ko
dulu ada la jugak kawan ngan Kristian, tapi kitaorg x pernah lak nak buat benda2 mcm tu
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Post time 10-1-2007 10:08 PM | Show all posts
Aku tau ader orang Semenanjung yg baik macam ko.. tapi rata2 kawan aku dulu, semuanya tak bagi orang Kristian duduk serumah dgn diorang. Konon dia ada bawak holy water bebagai.
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Post time 10-1-2007 10:35 PM | Show all posts
Aku dulu ada member baik dgn kawan yg beragama kristian gak. Masa praktikal kena pergi tpt tu dgn dia. Apa yg aku suka ttg persahabatan aku ialah aku memahami agama dia dan dia memahami agama aku. Pernah masa aku tgh sibuk buat kerja praktikal dia ingatkan aku utk pergi bersolat sbb dia dah dgr azan masa tu. Even masa aku sembahyang pun dia tau nak perlahan tv dgn radio. Dia kiranya penganut setia gak...so time ada masa dia baca bible dia tu aku takde la kacau. Time dia nak gi church pun kadang2 aku tlg hantar.
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Post time 10-1-2007 11:05 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Muntz at 10-1-2007 10:08 PM
Aku tau ader orang Semenanjung yg baik macam ko.. tapi rata2 kawan aku dulu, semuanya tak bagi orang Kristian duduk serumah dgn diorang. Konon dia ada bawak holy water bebagai.


Its just too bad that some people are prejudice at each other. Not only race , but religion as well. That is not a true reflection of people in general.


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Post time 10-1-2007 11:23 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by naz_1969 at 10-1-2007 11:05 PM


Its just too bad that some people are prejudice at each other. Not only race , but religion as well. That is not a true reflection of people in general.


Rasa2 haku perbezaan yang timbul akibat agama tak seharusnya diperbesarkan. Hidup berharmoni antara sesama kaum yang berlainan agama

Persoalanya ini merupakan lanjutan dari Perang Salib. Perang dalam diam-diam. Kalau berpegang teguh pada agama Kristian takkan Pendakyahnya sanggup berzina dengan umat Islamsemata-mata untuk mengembangkan agama Kristian. Ini bukan berdakwah rupanya.

Tetapi merupakan propoganda yang jahat dikalangan umat Kristian.
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Post time 11-1-2007 12:27 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by pang5Islam at 10-1-2007 11:23 PM


Rasa2 haku perbezaan yang timbul akibat agama tak seharusnya diperbesarkan. Hidup berharmoni antara sesama kaum yang berlainan agama

Persoalanya ini merupakan lanjutan dari Perang Salib. ...


I think it is the clash of monoethism.

[57:27] Subsequent to them, we sent our messengers. We sent Jesus the son of Mary, and we gave him the Injeel (Gospel), and we placed in the hearts of his followers kindness and mercy. But they invented hermitism which we never decreed for them. All we asked them to do was to uphold the commandments approved by GOD. But they did not uphold the message as they should have. Consequently, we gave those who believed among them their recompense, while many of them were wicked.

As long as we know where we stand , insyallah we will succeed.
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Post time 11-1-2007 07:08 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by naz_1969 at 11-1-2007 12:27 AM


I think it is the clash of monoethism.

Subsequent to them, we sent our messengers. We sent Jesus the son of Mary, and we gave him the Injeel (Gospel), and we placed in the hearts of his f ...


Kenapa disebut we? Bukan kah we bermakna lebih dari satu? Dia hantar Isa anak Mariam sebagai Nabi dan sukan sebagai Anak Tuhan. Masalahnya jika ajaran Nabi Isa masih lagi asli dan tak menyeleweng seperti sekarang, tidaklah berlaku permasalahan agama seperti sekarang .
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Post time 11-1-2007 08:25 AM | Show all posts
We di sini merupakan satu kata ganti nama yang merujuk kepada Tuhan...bukan tuhan-tuhan ye..Tuhan..We bukanlah bersifat plural..ianya kata ganti nama singular yang hanya boleh digunakan untuk entiti yang istimewa sebagai tanda penghormatan kepada entiti tersebut.
zaman dulu2..kalau seseorang raja sedang bertitah dia akan refer diri dia sebagai 'we' jugak.

just my two cents.
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