EVIL - was it born within us? .. or how?

yellow belmont · Post time 9-4-2007 12:30 AM

Originally posted by free2rhyme at 8-4-2007 09:03 PM
does that mean its ok for every country to possess it since its not evil ?

i tot i had made it clear earlier that i wont put this UNALIVE THING to be discuss in that context ..

i think my post regarding the KNIFE already explain my point of view ..

the more evil actions we commit, the higher the level of evil will increase in our respective soul ....

i guess so .. just like Ran Online .. the more u kill .. the more xp u'll get ..

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free2rhyme · Post time 9-4-2007 07:20 AM

i tot i had made it clear earlier that i wont put this UNALIVE THING to be discuss in that context ..

So you won't put a nuclear weapon as an evil thing but does that mean everybody must accept this stand of yours without further questioning the validity of it ?

i think my post regarding the KNIFE already explain my point of view ..

Every body can possess a knife because the knife is a useful tool that can be used for various purposes, but is a knife the same like a nuclear weapon ? A nuclear weapon doesn't have any purpose other than to be used for massive killings and destructions so obviously we can't put the two under the same category now can we?

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free2rhyme · Post time 9-4-2007 07:47 AM

i agree............ you as a moslem.. you ever felt allah before?

Yes, almost every moment in my life I can feel His help and mercy ..... I can't breath without His help now can I...

my christian friend once told me that when he feel down or sad, he can feel jesus pat his head and comfort him.do you feel something like this? in islam?

When I feel down and sad I will console my mind by thinking that God is actually strengthening my disposition to a better level with what happen so as a way of expressing my gratitude towards Him I must be strong and not let sadness subdue my self restraint.....

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free2rhyme · Post time 9-4-2007 09:12 AM

maybe the evil in soul existed before we were born..... but why?

You meant to refer to The Devil ?

ct_og · Post time 9-4-2007 11:16 AM

Kejahatan berpunca dari luar diri disebabkan oleh syaitan manakala dari dalam diri disebabkan oleh nafsu. Kejahatan dari luar kita minta dari Tuhan agar dijauhkan darinya sedangkan kejahatan dalam diri kita sendiri kena kawal dia agar tak jadi jahat.

wei_loon5063 · Post time 9-4-2007 11:51 AM

Evil=devil?

why evil exist? not not non evil only???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching

this is also a chinese phylisophy that dated back 5000 years....
make it simple.. there wont be long if there is no short....
now the west is using this theory for pc programming... as the theory is semantic and is analogous to the 1 and 0 of programming language....

wei_loon5063 · Post time 9-4-2007 12:04 PM

for you reference

http://www.urbandharma.org/udharma5/goodevil.html

free2rhyme · Post time 9-4-2007 03:35 PM

Evil=devil?

I believe evil = simple forces in human nature which are conceal from our senses inasmuch as they manifest themselves to us only in their defects but not in their intrinsic reality. And they only have the ability to provoke us to commit evil actions . The more we succumb to the provocations the more stronger and powerful they get...

why evil exist? not not non evil only???

Because humans are given the ability to choose, so if only good exists then there would be nothing to choose from thus the ability would be useless .....

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free2rhyme · Post time 9-4-2007 04:12 PM

I believe the video refers to the Jinn who belongs to sentient organisms of so fine a nature and of a physio-logical composition so different from our own that they are not normally accessible to our sense-perception and it is only logical to assume that our physical senses can establish contact with them only under very exceptional circumstances . Now that occassional , very rare crossing of paths between their life mode and ours may well give rise to strange unexplainable manifestations which man's primitive fantasy has subsequently interpreted as ghosts, demons and other such supernatural apparitions...
The Jinns have the ability to choose between evil or good and they also are able to think and reason... just like us.

wei_loon5063 · Post time 9-4-2007 05:36 PM

just like us??

why they are jinn and not human then?

free2rhyme · Post time 9-4-2007 06:29 PM

Why are you human and not jinn then? Can you answer that?
They live in a realm which is beyond the reach of human perception , we know very little about them and to discuss further in great detail is useless since we can only guess and I don't like to indulge in guessing game

free2rhyme · Post time 9-4-2007 06:46 PM

The Quran mentions about living creatures that exists throughout the heavens and the earth, and that denotes the universe in its entirety.... so not just us and the jinn but there are obviously other creatures as well on other planets throughout the galaxies....

"And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and of whatever living creatures He has spread forth in both"

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wei_loon5063 · Post time 9-4-2007 07:19 PM

Originally posted by free2rhyme at 9-4-2007 06:46 PM
so not just us and the jinn but there are obviously other creatures as well on other planets throughout the galaxies....

i believe this one...... but will be encounter it???

free2rhyme · Post time 9-4-2007 07:26 PM

We can't even reach the moon yet ... and to go further than the moon ? I don't think so....

wei_loon5063 · Post time 9-4-2007 07:34 PM

i think we can.. just not now.. not in near future....

neil armstrong reach the moon d...

and with ISS the world in researching to live up there.. and little by little

free2rhyme · Post time 9-4-2007 07:41 PM

Then you need to watch this video, free

http://video.google.com/videopla ... 484&q=moon+hoax

wei_loon5063 · Post time 9-4-2007 10:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4D8X8u9RX0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k43CI8RUAJ0

also a conspiracy and dark side of china........ fa lun gong..... deem as a phylosophy and like qi gong in china.. but china govenment deem it as kind of ajaran sesat and the practitioners are cruely procecuted....... sad....... happens in the 21 century.........