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Kenapa Tun Mahathir tak pilih IMF ( krisis kewangan 1997 - )
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indonesia pulih? pulih? indonesia?
economic-wise, rasanya ramai dah expert terangkan kat sini.. mekaseh bebyk.
err aku rasa bersalah siket2 sbb aku antara yg membangkitkan isu IMF ni masa election-week kot.. so jgn la gaduh2, x baik hehe..
anyway tujuan aku dulu mula2 kaitkan IMF dgn politik ni sbb masa tu dah ada org yg kaitkan dah. yg ckp time DSAI minyak x naik, apsal sekarang naik (personally i think that is a very stupid reasoning). pastu org ckp time DSAI jadik TPM sume ok, negara aman makmur la, etc... ni 'cadangan' dia utk pinjam dr IMF tu bg aku kira salah satu contoh ketidakcerdikan DSAI dulu.. ok la, fine, maybe ada sbb lain yg pengaruh dia cadangkan benda tu, but my point is, HE'S NOT PERFECT. EVEN HE CAN MAKE AN 'UNWISE' DECISION...
TDM pun byk benda dia buat yg aku rasa only made for his (n his cronies') own good, tapi at least yg berkaitan dgn ekonomi, he did well. kiranya ok la gak sbb in general rakyat pun ada dpt good effect of it.
kan sekarang org kata politicians byk manipulate ekonomi, rasuah, etc... tapi aku rasa kalau kita pinjam fr IMF, politics still akan boleh manipulate ekonomi gak... rasuah still akan ada gak. the lesser of two evils? lu pk la sendirik... |
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Reply #280 kupia's post
Korea dan Indonesia pilih IMF jauh lebih dulu pulih dari malaysia..
Mana ko belajar nih bai???...Kalau ekonomi Indon pulih, buat apa rakyatnya berduyun2 datang Malaysia cari kerja. Carik kejer satu hal, yang merompak, membunuh, merogol tuh apa plak citer nya. Heh..heh... |
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Originally posted by kupia at 8-4-2008 10:02 AM 
Korea dan Indonesia pilih IMF jauh lebih dulu pulih dari malaysia..
si tua haprak tu sebenarnya tak mau good governence, transparency n accountability..
tak sangka lak ko nih sebengap camni...:@ |
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Originally posted by kupia at 8-4-2008 10:02 AM 
Korea dan Indonesia pilih IMF jauh lebih dulu pulih dari malaysia..
si tua haprak tu sebenarnya tak mau good governence, transparency n accountability..
 aku yg cetek ilmu pun leh menilai...ape lar blur sgt ko nih... |
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Originally posted by satriamerah at 8-4-2008 02:16 PM 
Korea dan Indonesia pilih IMF jauh lebih dulu pulih dari malaysia..
Mana ko belajar nih bai???...Kalau ekonomi Indon pulih, buat apa rakyatnya berduyun2 datang Malaysia cari kerja. Carik kej ...
ehh.. buat tak nampak korea dan Thai tuu pulak.. |
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Originally posted by satriamerah at 8-4-2008 02:16 PM
Mana ko belajar nih bai???...Kalau ekonomi Indon pulih, buat apa rakyatnya berduyun2 datang Malaysia cari kerja. Carik kejer satu hal, yang merompak, membunuh, merogol tuh apa plak citer nya. Heh..heh...
prrrfthhh
mat rempit melayu merompak, rogol, ragut.. ekonomi pulih sgt la tuu..
ekonomi mesia di dibandingkan asean hanya lebih baik skit dari myanmar jee |
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Originally posted by peYno at 8-4-2008 07:11 PM
ehh.. buat tak nampak korea dan Thai tuu pulak..
Thai: mula2 merudum ikut pakej "pure" IMF. Selepas modify package baru ok skit...
Korea: negara pengekspot yg memang sesuai dgnpakej imf. Tak sesuai buat perbandingan dgn Msia yg masih lagi ada substantial import.
Rumusan drpd mhafiz.
Conclusion: che det memang spot on dalam reject imf...which can't be said the same for brade anwar. |
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Originally posted by peYno at 8-4-2008 07:13 PM
prrrfthhh
mat rempit melayu merompak, rogol, ragut.. ekonomi pulih sgt la tuu..
ekonomi mesia di dibandingkan asean hanya lebih baik skit dari myanmar jee
fuyoooo ... analisa canggih beb. camnih laaa baru di namakan pakar mengulas tentang ekonomi
lagi爈agi爉elayu爅er爕ang燿ia爊ampak..燽angsa爈ain燾am爉alaikat爅er..爇an? |
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walau dr.M tak setuju dengan IMF tapi dia bagi bail- out berapa banyak kepada kroni-kroni n GLC yang hadapi masalah kewangan...salah satunya MAS, Tajudin Ramli, Renong, UEM....etc.... itu pun salah satu punca krisis ekonomi.....masa tu pulak anwar bangkitkan isu 3k (korupsi,kronisme, satu lagi kita lupa)
kenapa krisis ekonomi terjadi...siapa yang remove trade barrier...siapa yang buat liberalisasi perdagangan.tanpa ada protection (nak cepat sangat membangun)..kadar government intervention yang tinggi dlm busniss....kenapa singapore x ada krisis ekonomi?
Jawapannya ialah ....sebelum eknomi krisis tu ekonomi kita tengah boom...banyak FDI (foreign direct investment) masuk ke Malaysia..offcourse lah..tak ada barrier....once Matawang Thailand drop.domino teori..effect Malaysia. and ASEAN member kecuali singapore..all MNC cabut balik ker home country...sudahlah tak ada trade barrier...so siapa yang salah.(mestilah pembuat dasar hehheheee) ....kilang MNC pun ditutup...kadar pengangguran tinggi....inflasi naik...banyak kena buang kerja....
[ Last edited by my^fluffy at 9-4-2008 01:17 AM ] |
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nak citer pasal bailout kroni atau tak... rasanya..... IMF itself is bailing out the investor/creditor yang dah stuck kat problematic countries during the crisis.
The hazard of IMF bailouts goes beyond the problem that bad IMF conditions such as higher taxes harm client countries. Worse, bailouts don't actually bail out troubled nations or their poorest citizens. Rather, bailouts tend chiefly to reduce losses to large investors who made bad bets. And the scope of bailing has been expanding fast.
http://www.imfsite.org/mission/whatfor.html
So IMF bailouts are not bailouts of debtor countries and their economies at all. That's just a popular misconception that some find convenient to let pass uncorrected. IMF bailouts are bailouts of international investors because that is who gets the money. It is the great sucker play of the wealthy in the late 20th century where international lenders enjoy the high yields while taxpayers ultimately assume the risk. Of course, in broad terms it is just one more case of privatizing the benefits of an economic activity--in this case international lending--and socializing the burdens associated with that activity--risk of international default. Through IMF bailouts taxpayers of member nations provide underwriting services to international investors, for no fee, and provide insurance for international investors, for no fee. A sweet deal when you can get it.
http://www.zmag.org/Instructionals/GlobalEcon/id17_m.htm
bailout good or bad... kroni ke dak... it has happened in many countries爑sing many means & reasons.
to avoid finacial meltdown..
to avoid strategic assets into foreign hands
Under orders from the International Monetary Fund, the Chuan Leekpai government is busy preparing the sale of some of Thailand's most important public assets: Thai Airways International, the Electricity Generating Authority of Thailand, Electricity Generating (Public) Co., Power Gen 2, the Petroleum Authority of Thailand, Bangchak Petroleum, PTT Exploration and Production, phone carriers the Communication Authority of Thailand and the Telephone Organisation of Thailand, other utilities, railways and ports. Fifteen public establishments are up for grabs initially, starting in the next few months.
http://www.greenleft.org.au/1998/313/21564
to avoid mass unemployment which leads to more social problems & social unrest.. nih bukan sekadar citer mat & minah rempit... real social problems
May 27-28, 1998
A two-day, nation-wide strike is held in South Korea by union workers to protest the growing wave of unemployment in the country. Since February, South Korean companies have been laying off 10,000 workers per day.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/crash/etc/cron.html
errr ...mengenai |
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omg!! mereka yg ckp TDM buat silap kerana menolak IMF, korang lebih baik belajar sket pasal economy..
aku bukan nak berlagak... tp, kalo korg fikir balik, kenape US beriya offer nak pinjamkn duit kt Msia dan neg2 miskin time gawat dulu? for sure ade agenda lain di sebalik 'bantuan' kewangan tu.. in fact, korg dah kaji ker policies and content IMF itself?
Obviously IMF nak something in return kan? xkan nak bg pinjam duit berbiliion mcm tu je? mestilah diorg tetapkan syarat2 or any new policies to the country kan?? (nak pinjam ikut syarat, x nak ikut x leh pinjam)...
and the new policies yg diorg impose tu la secara x langsung menguntungkan IMF and PROBABLY merugikan negara...try check topic international trade, subsidies, tax n stuff...
IMF x akan rugi ape2 pon coz the country still kene pay back what they have borrowed..
so, decision TDM menolak bantuan IMF bg aku sgt wajar... he eyed for the long term effect...
Now, negara kita still stable in economy... last two years aku tgk statistic GDP per capita Msia di ranking 60 (x silap aku la)... which is for me not too bad for our DEVELOPING country...but skrg x tau la ranking berape..
Remember, jgn bandingkan neg kita dgn US or UK or neg2 yg maju.. we are still working on it.. politics, masalah neg, jenayah, corruption n stuff yg melanda neg ni la punca halangan utk Msia terus membgun..
so, think about it..
tq... just an opinion |
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double posting...sorry..  :@
[ Last edited by LoVE_BiTe at 9-4-2008 12:43 PM ] |
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Yg ako ingat masa tu sewaktu DSAI jadi Munteri Kewangan, habis interest naik begitu tinggi melebihi 10%, nak beli kereta,rumah interst tinggi, pinjaman loan kena interest yg tinggi..dan ini adalah salah satu idea dari IMF juga..tp apa jadik masa tuh..semua bisness tara jalan..kereta kurang mau beli, rumah pun kurang mau beli, bank tara boleh bikin wang sebab org takut nak pinjam. Itu sebab bila Tun amik alih munteri kewangan dia kasi turun semua interest, supaya bisness boleh berjalan semula.. |
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Post time 8-4-2008 10:42 AM
