Pendekatan Lebih Radikal utk Kuasai English : BI Tak Jadikan Kita Org Putih

macademia · Post time 21-4-2008 09:02 AM

Originally posted by redsinner at 18-4-2008 07:30 PM
aku tak retila nak komen jugak.
syllabus kerajaan dari darjah satu sampai 2nd year IPT pun takkan tak bleh ckp langsung???
inisiatif sendirik tu sgt penting wooo....
tak semestinye nak bergant ...

betul tu....

takde initiative....

eva · Post time 21-4-2008 03:12 PM

Originally posted by macademia at 21-4-2008 09:02 AM

betul tu....

takde initiative....

pastu blame org lain rather than blame diri sendiri yg taknak belajar.

Ustaz_SUFI · Post time 21-4-2008 10:21 PM

aq pown belajar Eng drp TV,lagu,radio,mag Eng ..tp mak aq x pernah phm2 niat aq ni

eva · Post time 22-4-2008 04:15 PM

Originally posted by Ustaz_SUFI at 21-4-2008 10:21 PM
aq pown belajar Eng drp TV,lagu,radio,mag Eng ..tp mak aq x pernah phm2 niat aq ni

sabar.. main saikologi la eiks..
mcm kalau ur mom masih tak paham, you rajin beli surat khabar yg tekankan kepentingan English;
ckp kat dia you kena belajar english btol sbb sekarang ni kalau takder english language susah nak dpt keja.
mak mana nak bagi anak2 dia jd penanggur. you jgn paksa dia.. tunjuk bukti napa kementerian pendidikan ckp english tu penting. sure lepas tu your mom tak bising.

minoha · Post time 22-4-2008 06:13 PM

Originally posted by Ustaz_SUFI at 21-4-2008 10:21 PM
aq pown belajar Eng drp TV,lagu,radio,mag Eng ..tp mak aq x pernah phm2 niat aq ni

eh?bkn zaman dulu sekolah inggeris?

azz_azza · Post time 22-4-2008 08:21 PM

ustaz_sufi ni zaman sekarang...

bukan dia baru form 4 ke

redsinner · Post time 23-4-2008 10:48 AM

aahh...i confuse dgn scottish nyer slang. penah pegi interview nak buat post grad degree kat glasgow uni terus cancel sbb takleh tangkap.

itu yg terus pilih OZ.
my mum lak dia mmg colonial abes, dgn -ed past tense suffix tu dok stresskan. kalo biasa mana la obvious sgt. correct me if i'm wrong. i balik hols dari OZ duk berslang, saje....my parents kata bunyi mcm cockney habes

tapi most of my msian frens kat sini not too bad la english derang. presentation dgn lecturer pun ok. lecturer kat sini suka budak2 asians sbb rajin. hihihihih
slang kat OZ gile! first week i arrived i tak paham pape, duk mendgr jer. pastu kalo u ckp dgn derang tak ikut slang depa, takde la depa paham. 9-nine kena sebut noine....a kena sebut aye.....

terbellit2 lidah gue

redsinner · Post time 23-4-2008 10:50 AM

cuba tunjuk keratan akhbar yg kata ramai menganggur sbb tak pandai english.
pastu cuba score paper english kamu kat seklah.mmg mak u impressed nyer
join debate ka....

eva · Post time 24-4-2008 01:53 AM

Originally posted by redsinner at 23-4-2008 10:48 AM
aahh...i confuse dgn scottish nyer slang. penah pegi interview nak buat post grad degree kat glasgow uni terus cancel sbb takleh tangkap. itu yg terus pilih OZ.
my mum lak dia mmg coloni ...

glasgow uni guna bahasa posh tu. tak susah cuma iyer la lelain tempat lain cara ckp. queen's english sedap. kalau edinburgh.. ahahaha u kena sebut r tu tebal... dua harakah

i know ozzy slang .. nione.. aye.. mayjorr ( major ).. tp fun..
ala berslang tu biasa ;) tp takkan la your parents ckp mcm cockney

cockney slang dia omit satu dua huruf je. tapi i tak suka dengar cockney... pre' e = pretty comin' = coming.. lidah pendek .. tp i suka dengar slang Aberdeen.. cute.. Inverness pon cute sbb slang dorang very posh walaupon very scottish. slang dorang sama mcm Queen's English.

eva · Post time 24-4-2008 02:02 AM

Originally posted by redsinner at 23-4-2008 10:50 AM
cuba tunjuk keratan akhbar yg kata ramai menganggur sbb tak pandai english.
pastu cuba score paper english kamu kat seklah.mmg mak u impressed nyer
join debate ka....

agreed with you red..

buat adik aq n all yg rasa english tu lemah atau kurang nak tangkap..

buat cam buku2 rujukan... tekankan... takder second language takder keja..

i faham parents yg bersikap kemelayuan. i respect my father punya wish not to speak English in our house tp kalau kami dengar radio english dlm bilik tak ganggu dia... tu hak kami nak belajar.

coz i takder galakan in english.. my english was pretty bad. i could score good grades in many subjects but english was really bad. i rasa rendah diri tau bila org ckp english coz i knew nothing. sometimes i ingat i nie bodoh piang in English. but kesedaran kena ada dlm diri... still learning english up till now and even tulis dlm note book lagi apa yg i belajar through media ari nie. I am not saying I am good at English now but i feel comfortable to speak with others in English... ada konfiden sket compared ngan dulu. Someone needs to change.. and that someone is yourself ( utk aq n some yg rasa rendah diri sgt ngan english ). Kena ada cara kalau u nak english atau any other language ok. Selain english i hv two major languages yg i tau basic n sometimes practice.

Kalau ada peluang belajar bahasa lain.. insya Allah cuba..

dont give up. mak tak bagi semangat takpe but kalau u btol2 nak improve english jgn peduli sgt gomel parents yg tak tau kepentingan bahasa lain.

[ Last edited by eva at 24-4-2008 02:07 AM ]

Ustaz_SUFI · Post time 24-4-2008 08:30 PM

tah ... yg penting mak aq skewl sampai darjah 6 je ... tp dulu kn pompuan keje cam ne pown kene kahwin ...

Ustaz_SUFI · Post time 24-4-2008 08:34 PM

actually my English x suck sgt ... in fact,aq dpt A tuk PMR , masuk Debate ( tp kalah

), kene masuk latihan public speakin' ( tuk wakil skewl thn dpn ), tiap2 kali ade pertandingan essays ( aq antara murid yg dipaksa wat masuk

), etc ...etc ... TP!!! mak aq x pernah pandang

tah ape tah die nak

azz_azza · Post time 24-4-2008 09:42 PM

itu cabaran tu, secara tak langsung akan menaikkan azam u untuk baguskan lagi english...

minoha · Post time 25-4-2008 05:14 PM

Originally posted by azz_azza at 22-4-2008 08:21 PM
ustaz_sufi ni zaman sekarang...

bukan dia baru form 4 ke

form 4? ustaz sufi sila jawab

minoha · Post time 25-4-2008 05:42 PM

tak pernah pandang?maksudnya?

redsinner · Post time 25-4-2008 07:10 PM

well done! dah join sume bebende tu CV cantikla nanti. senang nak sambung ke IPTA/IPTS.

aku pun setuju dgn azz_azza. turn constraints into advantages.
tapi yg penting ko konfiden dgn ape yg ko buat. jgn takut. tuhan pun suruh belajar byk2...bumi ni luas sgt utk dipelajari ilmunyer. manusia pun byk2 golongan utk dijadikan panduan.

dexa · Post time 25-4-2008 10:21 PM

Originally posted by Ustaz_SUFI at 24-4-2008 08:34 PM
actually my English x suck sgt ... in fact,aq dpt A tuk PMR , masuk Debate ( tp kalah ), kene masuk latihan public speakin' ( tuk wakil skewl thn dpn ), tiap2 kali ade pertandingan essays ( aq ...

actually to get an A in PMR didnt mean much nowadays -

in fact getting A1 in SPM didnt even matter much - especially
after all the questions were like - repeated countless times and been
spotted on --
you can write prolly a brill essay but you can't even pronounce the
words correctly let alone converse fluently in English -

point is - you've gotto speak and practice that language as often as
you can and religiously - - and trust me - in no time you gonna master it -