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Post time 19-1-2005 12:16 PM | Show all posts

Swan

Sebenarnya semua Direct Sales company tertakluk di bawah Direct Sales Act (AJL).. Cuma yang menyertai DSAM itu suppose to be more ethical. Tapi macam apa perkara pun di dunia nia DSAM members are not perfect, ramai juga yang buat hal.

Those days the big players use DSAM untuk supress newbies in the industry, sebab masa tu Government banyak dipengaruhi oleh DSAM, sebab it sampai sekarang tak semua syarikat MLM ingin menyertai DSAM, they still have that feelings that DSAM dari satu sudut menjadi alat kepada beberapa big boys in the industries.
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Post time 19-1-2005 12:28 PM | Show all posts
memang betul semua perniagaan mesti ada jualan, tetapi JUALAN BAGAIMANA? apakah kita perlu menjual barang nyata seperti minyak wangi, vitamin, makanan tambahan dll? atau kita perlu menjual KONSEP KEHIDUPAN?

Sepengetahuan saya, eCosway tidak memerlukan kita menjadi penjual, tetapi menjadi pengguna shj.. contoh mengisi petrol - semua pengguna kenderaan kena mengisi petrol.. jadi jika anda ahli eCosway, tindakan anda mengisi petrol akan dikira di dalam BONUS anda..

cuma anda perlu menjual KONSEP ECOSWAY SAHAJA... itulah berbezanya eCosway dgn MLM lain..

jika ingin baca lagi sila lah ke http://www.oyak.net/v4/viewtopic.php?t=215
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Post time 19-1-2005 03:01 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by adi_iskandar at 18-1-2005 05:37 PM:
heheh..ni promote ke? tapi aku rasa luxor ni macam ada udang disebalik batu.. ada benda yang tak dinyatakan dan hanya disedari setelah berada di dlm network tersebut.. aku dengar orang atas akan to ...


tak perlu jual barang jika tak nak....
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Post time 20-1-2005 12:06 PM | Show all posts
bukan aku taknak..cuma kalau betul kena jual barang kenapa tak bagitau awal2? dari berpuluh orang yang ajak aku join tak sorang pun sebut pasal jual menjual..yang mereka sebut cuma labur melabur(yang jadi mangsa student u yang baru nak dapat loan) dan dari mencari orang bawah dan buat network..macam ada muslihat..
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Post time 20-1-2005 12:29 PM | Show all posts
as far as i know, you don't have to sell if you don't want to...just use the products yourself....
but if you sell, you can earn more!
maybe the group that approach you need you to invest a lot, is it? maybe their way is wrong already...
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Post time 20-1-2005 12:31 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by adi_iskandar at 20-1-2005 12:06 PM:
bukan aku taknak..cuma kalau betul kena jual barang kenapa tak bagitau awal2? dari berpuluh orang yang ajak aku join tak sorang pun sebut pasal jual menjual..yang mereka sebut cuma labur melabur(ya ...


kalau mereka kata MLM ni pelaburan maka itu adalah salah. dan saya nasihatkan kepada rakan2 semua agar memahami semua perkara tentang MLM yg ingin diceburi sebelum anda tandatangan. Faham dan kaji baik buruknya, barulah kita boleh tt. Kalau tidak kita sendiri yg rugi.
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Post time 23-1-2005 11:40 PM | Show all posts

About MLM USANA

I just joined this MLM company, USANA Health Science in Singapore, and I was told that the company will release the products to Malaysia market in 2 to 3 months' time. Since I am Malaysian, and it is always the best to be the first explore the market, I would like to know whether these product can compete with the current MLM products in Malaysia? My friends told me that it is quite difficult, is it true?

USANA has quite good multi vitamin and minerals products, and established in US, Taiwan etc. They also have preservative-free facial products that are very effective acccording to some friends who use them. Is there already such a company in Malaysia selling similar products?

I was told by friend that their MLM pyramid is quite different, so can go in long run. They allow only 2 people downline, so these two people will get another 2 people each, until they reach a certain level, then the first person is only allowed to open a new line. I was told that these way, won't go out of control and become hard for people downline to earn. When the top people find new people, they will need to put them below those people who are looking for two. Is there similar strategy in other MLM companines in Malaysia?

I was also told that there is opportunity that you get downline people of different countries, as it is not limited to get only within the country. Just wonder whether other companies do the same.

I have never join MLM company before, so would like to find out more and start getting those interested people in Malaysia.
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Post time 24-1-2005 08:58 AM | Show all posts
ni yang aku benci nih...mesti dah terdesak sangat nih...
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Post time 24-1-2005 01:07 PM | Show all posts

Hiting

Do you have any website url for usana.. i wanna know more.
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Post time 24-1-2005 01:11 PM | Show all posts
Ramai yang guna perkataan melabur dalam MLM... erti sebenarnya adalah melebur..  melebur duit dengan membeli sejumlah produk (front loading) supaya orang atasan dapat overiding tanpa menjual! Kalau u nak dapat balik modal yang dah dilebur tu.. carilah 3-5orang lagi mangsa dengan menceritakan impian kemewahan sehingga air liur mereka meleleh dan dengan paksa rela meleburkan pulak sejumlah produk untuk kita.

Inilah fenomena MLM yang main plan dan tidak langsung fokus tentang produk. But they call it 'Marketing Strategy'.

Sekadar Pendapat.
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Post time 24-1-2005 03:48 PM | Show all posts
DSAM tu cuma gah pada nama saja. Kalau betullah DSAM menjalankan tugasnya...tak akan kita nampak kat supermarket, barangan dari MLM kompeni di jual / pamer atas rak/ shelves even MLM kompeni yg listed ngan DSAM pun ada. Byk betul MLM kompeni yg mana produknya di jual cara begini dan taktik ini merosakkan market bagi MLM kompeni yg menjalankan perniagaan mengikut acuan AKTA JUALAN LANGSUNG. Kalau hal seperti ini masi berlarutan DSAM baik toksah di tubuhkan, miting setiap bulan, tapi tiada tindakan yg di ambil. Pernah satu ketika DSAM ini amat  HEBAT!!..I ingat lagi masa tu masa kegemilangan  FORTUNE satu MLM kompeni yg dah takda kat Malaysia ni. Masa tu DSAM sangat aktif memperjuangkan nasib kompeni MLM ..especially kompeni Bumiputera.....tapi sayangnya zaman telah berubah...Tsunami sudah melanda...DSAM tinggal kenangan...
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Post time 24-1-2005 04:07 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by adi_iskandar at 20-1-2005 12:06 PM:
bukan aku taknak..cuma kalau betul kena jual barang kenapa tak bagitau awal2? dari berpuluh orang yang ajak aku join tak sorang pun sebut pasal jual menjual..yang mereka sebut cuma labur melabur(ya ...


Sebelum menyertai mana mana MLM kompeni kena tahu beberapa perkara asas sama ada kompeni tu MLM tulen atau Trinary/Binary/Skim Cepat Kaya:

1. Adakah kompeni tu mempunyai lesen jualan langsung?  eg. AJL 98156681

2. Adakah dinyatakan dalam profail kompeni siapakah kumpulan pengurusan dan adakah tempat pejabat syarikat betul betul wujud?

3. Adakah kompeni itu mempraktikkan dasar 'HeadHunting' ? eg. apabila anda mendapat seorang downline atau pengedar bawahan, yuran keahlian ialah sebanyak  RM 70.00  dan anda sebagai penaja akan mendapat bonus RM 20.00 hasil dr kemasukkan ahli itu?

4. Adakah barangan di jual dengan harga yg lojik? eg. kicap kat pasaran dijual dalam RM2.00 - RM 10.00 tapi kompeni MLM tadi jual dengan harga RM50.00

5. Adakah anda perlu memastikan setiap bulan anda ada mata tertentu yang harus di kumpul? eg. setiap bulan kena ada 100 pv/ bv/sv untuk melayakkan diri menikmati bonus dr jualan kumpulan.

6. Contoh kompeni Binary/ Ting Tong/ Piramid: eg. ikuti petikan di bawah;

I was told by friend that their MLM pyramid is quite different, so can go in long run. They allow only 2 people downline, so these two people will get another 2 people each, until they reach a certain level, then the first person is only allowed to open a new line. I was told that these way, won't go out of control and become hard for people downline to earn. When the top people find new people, they will need to put them below those people who are looking for two. Is there similar strategy in other MLM companines in Malaysia? (kalau hanya 1 kumpulan saja memanjang ke bawah, u tak dpt sesen pun, kena balance , ada ting ada tong)


Kui kui ada byk lagi...tp try jawab setakat ini saja laa.......pas tu pm I.....
:clap:

[ Last edited by ikankalui on 24-1-2005 at 04:16 PM ]
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Post time 24-1-2005 09:28 PM | Show all posts
The English website is www.usana.com. But, are we supposed to give the website address here? Hope the moderator don't mind.

Would appreciate if you can email me about your comments, as I may not visit this forum every day.
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Post time 24-1-2005 09:49 PM | Show all posts
I just joined the USANA that sells health care products and preservative-free facial products. I joined in Singapore, think will be released in Malaysia the latest in June.

What do you think of their pyramid structure? Each person is only allow to get two persons downline, then these two will each get two persons and so on. If the upline person get a third person, he will need to put the person below his downline people who hasn't got two persons. This way, will help each other and everyone get to earn, not expanding horizontally and end up difficult for downline persons to get new people.

The USANA is established in US, Australia, Taiwan etc. My upline is someone from Australia. Do you think this structure will last?
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Post time 25-1-2005 11:00 AM | Show all posts
Pyramid Structure ....100% positive back up by my years of MLM experience......
Only pyramids in Egypt will endure the test of time...but all pyramids in Malaysia will tumble and came crashing down......

Yeezerrrr....

[ Last edited by ikankalui on 25-1-2005 at 11:02 AM ]
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Post time 25-1-2005 11:22 AM | Show all posts
Top 5...? Tak pernah dengar pun company nie... Kalau Amway ke... Cosway ke... ada gak listed kat KLSE...
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Post time 25-1-2005 01:26 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ikankalui at 25/1/05 11:00 AM:
Pyramid Structure ....100% positive back up by my years of MLM experience......
Only pyramids in Egypt will endure the test of time...but all pyramids in Malaysia will tumble and came crashing dow ...


YUP!! AKAK SOKONG!!! :pompom::pompom: MEMANG PYRAMID SYSTEM NI, SEBENONYA MENGKAYA KAN YG ATAS, NAK MENINDASKAN YG BAWAH. :ketuk: NAMA PUN PYRAMID.  OF COURSE YG ATAS BERDIRI DGN MEGAHNYA.  

SETAHU AKAK, PYRAMID SISTEM NI HARAM DARI SEGI ISLAM. :lebai: SEBAB BERLAKUNYA PENINDASAN.  TAK CERITA LEBIH2..TAK PANDAI, TAPI AKAK RASA YG BIASA DOK JADI SPONSOR KAT ORG ATAS, PASTI BOLEH SHARE PENGALAMAN PAHIT KUAR MODAL RIBU-RIBAN DAN AKHIRNYA REBAH!!  TAPI SYOK GAK G PYRAMID KAT SUNWAY TUUU..SEJUKK MAIN ICE SKATING! MUAHAHAA
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Post time 25-1-2005 01:32 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Maximus at 14/12/04 04:45 PM:
Aku rasa macam posting nih menipu..!!
Aku rasa tertipu..!! nf:
Jadi jangan masuk MLM yg dia join..
Sure tipu jugak..!!


MIahahahahahahharr..!! Padan muka..!!


:setuju::setuju:  YA YA LAA KITA INGAT DIA NAK LETAK SENARAI TOP 5 GITU..RUPA2NYA DIA NAK PROMOTE HAT DIA PUNYAAA.... BIYO LAA DIA JER MAKAN ORGANIK TU.  ORGANIK TU SLALUNYA MAHALL KAN? TAPI KITA KAN ADA ANTIBODI.  KUATKAN ANTIBODI DGN SUPPLEMENT... SUPPLEMENT DARI DCL...:clap::bodek::clap::bodek:


MAUAHHAHAHAA
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Post time 25-1-2005 01:50 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sheila at 25-1-2005 01:32 PM:


:setuju::setuju:  YA YA LAA KITA INGAT DIA NAK LETAK SENARAI TOP 5 GITU..RUPA2NYA DIA NAK PROMOTE HAT DIA PUNYAAA.... BIYO LAA DIA JER MAKAN ORGANIK TU.  ORGANIK TU SLALUNYA MAHALL KAN? TAPI KI ...


Sapa nak ikut MLM I....terbaru di pasaran killer produk dia Budu + Guarana

Membership: Free 4 life
Bonus paid out: 80%
Extra benefit: Tabung keta, kapal, holiday etc
Produk: Budu + Guarana

kalau nak tau lebih lanjut PM gua.......:lol
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Post time 25-1-2005 07:46 PM | Show all posts
Whatever....
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