Kanak-Kanak Sekolah Rendah Bukan Islam Diarah Makan Di Dalam Toilet???

Lejen

annehuda posted on 25-7-2013 12:24 PM
aah mmg paksa pun. utk menguji gula dalam darah kena berpuasa sekurang-kurangnya 8 jam. utk lebih  ...

and then kalau doktor paksa tu dapat pahala ka apa ka?

Lejen

Muntz posted on 25-7-2013 12:23 PM
Bayar fidyah tu ala2 ganti kepada amalan puasa ko lah noks. Analoginya pada aktiviti2 filantropi - ...

di mana keadilan kita kena bayar puasa atas ketidakmampuan berpuasa?

Lejen

JandaMerana posted on 25-7-2013 12:05 PM
whatever you had written please show the evidents and please convince us how credible the evidents ...

During Ramadan, Moslems are required strictly to avoid fluids and nourishment from dawn to sunset. Heat stress during such abstinence represents a substantial health hazard. In the Federal Republic of Germany (FRG) where numerous Moslems, particularly of Turkish origin, perform heat work and other heavy labour, we observed moderate to severe health disturbances in such labourers during Ramadan, e.g.: tachycardia, severe headaches, dizziness, nausea, vomiting and circulatory collapse. The severe dehydration of these workers was demonstrated by substantial increases in their hematocrit, serum protein, urea, creatinine, uric acid and electrolyte imbalance. Because of the evidence of the substantial health hazard to Islamic workers in such situations, we have strongly urged employers to refrain from assigning Islamic workers to heat work or heavy daytime work during Ramadan; we have therefore limited systematic studies of health problems during Ramadan to persons performing only moderate work. Even under these conditions signs of dehydration were found in the 32 labourers monitored. Some of these labourers also had to interrupt their observance of Ramadan due to health problems, e.g.: acute gout due to serum uric acid increase, or circulatory insufficiency. In light of the observed potentially harmful pathophysiological effects, the danger of dehydration of Islamic workers due to heat work during Ramadan should be taken very seriously

Schmahl FW, Metzler B, "The health risks of occupational stress in Islamic industrial workers during the Ramadan fasting period", Polish Journal of Occupational Medicine 1991 4:3 219-28

Lejen

Peterpan17 posted on 25-7-2013 11:28 PM
Nak cerita sikit. Aku ada mslh gastrik kronik kdg blh muntah2. Aku selalu standby makanan dlm back ...

Disebabkan anda tidak sakit semasa ramadhan, tidak bermakna orang lain tak sakit.

annehuda

Lejen posted on 5-8-2013 08:52 AM
and then kalau doktor paksa tu dapat pahala ka apa ka?

jangan jadi budak2la. sbg seorang yg berpaksikan pd kepala otak ko je, ooppss i mean your logical thinking, dah mmg prosedur mcm tu so ikut jelah. dah doktor tu paksa DEMI KESIHATAN PESAKIT die, so ikut jelah. kalau ko taknak ikut pun takpe, tp yg sakit nnt ko jugak. soalan mcm budak tadika.

Peterpan17

Lejen posted on 5-8-2013 08:59 AM
Disebabkan anda tidak sakit semasa ramadhan, tidak bermakna orang lain tak sakit.

Ada kah aku ckp aku tak sakit org lain pun tak sakit?? Aku menyampaikan yg pd hari kebiasaan aku sakit gastrik tp pd bulan Ramadhan aku tak pernah sakit gastrik. Kenapa? Itulah istimewa bulan Ramadhan.

Lejen

Peterpan17 posted on 5-8-2013 10:14 AM
Ada kah aku ckp aku tak sakit org lain pun tak sakit?? Aku menyampaikan yg pd hari kebiasaan aku s ...

Bukan bermakna orang lain merasakan istimewa bila sakit di bulan Ramadhan.

Peterpan17

Lejen posted on 5-8-2013 10:55 AM
Bukan bermakna orang lain merasakan istimewa bila sakit di bulan Ramadhan.

Itu semua kata kata ko. None of us here post such statement. Ko ni mmg ada mslh mental.

Lejen

annehuda posted on 5-8-2013 09:11 AM
jangan jadi budak2la. sbg seorang yg berpaksikan pd kepala otak ko je, ooppss i mean your logical  ...

Dah memang ada fakta kesihatan yang kata puasa mampu memberikan penyakit kepada manusia.

Lejen

Peterpan17 posted on 5-8-2013 10:56 AM
Itu semua kata kata ko. None of us here post such statement. Ko ni mmg ada mslh mental.

Aku repost la fakta kesihatan bila orang berpuasa time ramadhan ni. Nak cakap kebenaran dikata pulak ada masalah mental.

Dehidrasi

PHYSIOLOGICAL FUNCTIONS
Evidence of hemoconcentration and dehydration has been found during Ramadan (El-Hazmi, Al-Faleh, & Al-Mofleh, 1987; Kayikcioglu et al., 1999; Ramadan et al., 1999; Schmahl & Metzler, 1991; Sweileh et al., 1992). Restricted fluid intake, leading to disturbance in the fluid balance, is likely to cause these conditions. In the initial stages of dehydration, the clinical signs are tachycardia, tiredness and malaise, headaches and nausea. Middle-aged or more elderly persons are usually more prone to the effects of dehydration (Schmahl & Metzler).
Dehydration is indicated by the increase of several serum biochemical parameters (El-Hazmi et al., 1987; Ramadan et al., 1999; Schmahl & Metzler, 1991; Sweileh et al., 1992). The increase in uric acid, however, should especially be noted (El-Ati et al, 1995; El-Hazmi et al., 1987; Fedail et al., 1982; Schmahl & Metzler, 1991), because hyperuricemia is one of the known sequelae of prolonged fasting (Murphy & Shipman, 1963). Hyperuricemia is associated with reduction in glomerular filtration rate, decrease in uric acid clearance and alterations in the renal transport of uric acid (Murphy & Shipman). During Ramadan, however, reports show that the increase in uric acid does not excessively deviate from the normal range and studies have not reported clinical gout (El-Hazmi et al., 1987; Fedail et al., 1982). Increased uric acid is, therefore, unlikely to affect healthy individuals.[5]

Migraines

An estimated 90 million of the world’s 1.57 billion Muslims are likely to suffer from migraine headaches during the dawn-to-dusk fasts during the month of Ramadan – which begins on Wednesday, at the height of summer heat. But Jewish researchers in the US and Israel have suggested how to help prevent the problem.
Dr. Ibrahim Abu-Salameh, Israel’s only Beduin neurologist – who works at Soroka University Medical Center in Beersheba – headed a team that found migraine attacks are three times more common during the Muslim fast than in the rest of the year.
Working with colleagues Dr. Igal Plecht and Dr. Gal Ifergan of the Beersheba hospital, Abu-Salameh studied 32 Beduin who suffered from migraine attacks during the Ramadan fast last year and compared the statistics to an ordinary month without the fast as a control.
Migraines were much more common in women than men; three-quarters of the women complained of migraine while fasting, compared to a much lower figure among the men. The Soroka study was published recently in the Journal of Headache and Pain.
. . .
Abu-Salameh said that he has gotten migraine headaches during Ramadan, and has treated Beduin who came to his clinic complaining about severe headaches. He noted that the medical literature has almost ignored the phenomenon until now.
Meanwhile, Dr. Michael J. Drescher of Hartford Hospital in Connecticut and colleagues at Sheba and Shaare Zedek Medical Centers in Israel recently suggested that otherwise-healthy Muslims suffering from migraine attacks during the Ramadan fast ask their doctors for a prescription for etoricoxib (commercial name Arcoxia) to prevent the headaches that come with fasting

tachycardia, severe headaches, dizziness, nausea, vomiting and circulatory collapse

During Ramadan, Moslems are required strictly to avoid fluids and nourishment from dawn to sunset. Heat stress during such abstinence represents a substantial health hazard. In the Federal Republic of Germany (FRG) where numerous Moslems, particularly of Turkish origin, perform heat work and other heavy labour, we observed moderate to severe health disturbances in such labourers during Ramadan, e.g.: tachycardia, severe headaches, dizziness, nausea, vomiting and circulatory collapse. The severe dehydration of these workers was demonstrated by substantial increases in their hematocrit, serum protein, urea, creatinine, uric acid and electrolyte imbalance. Because of the evidence of the substantial health hazard to Islamic workers in such situations, we have strongly urged employers to refrain from assigning Islamic workers to heat work or heavy daytime work during Ramadan; we have therefore limited systematic studies of health problems during Ramadan to persons performing only moderate work. Even under these conditions signs of dehydration were found in the 32 labourers monitored. Some of these labourers also had to interrupt their observance of Ramadan due to health problems, e.g.: acute gout due to serum uric acid increase, or circulatory insufficiency. In light of the observed potentially harmful pathophysiological effects, the danger of dehydration of Islamic workers due to heat work during Ramadan should be taken very seriously

Perubahan berat badan.

Numerous studies have reported significant weight loss during Ramadan (Adlouni, Ghalim, Benslimane, Lecerf, & Saile, 1997; Adlouni et al., 1998; Fedail, Murphy, Salih, Bolton, & Harvey, 1982; Kayikcioglu, Erkin, & Erakgun, 1999; Ramadan, Telahoun, Al-Zaid, & Barac-Nieto, 1999; Schmahl & Metzler, 1991; Sweileh, Schnitzler, Hunter, & Davis, 1992). The declines may result from water loss early in Ramadan and loss of body fat during the later period (Sweileh et al., 1992). In fact, we did find evidence of dehydration.
Loss of body fat would indicate the use of fat for energy production during Ramadan (Husain, Duncan, Cheah, & Ch'ng, 1987; Ramadan et al., 1999; Sweileh et al., 1992). In addition, researchers have found decreased heart rate and oxygen consumption during Ramadan (Husain et al., 1987; Ramadan et al., 1999; Sweileh et al., 1992). These findings suggest a metabolic adaptation to fasting. It seems that during the Ramadan daylight hours - when no food or water is taken in - to conserve stored energy, the metabolism slows down (Sweileh et al., 1992).
Other studies, however, have reported no change in body weight during Ramadan (El-Ati, Beji, & Danguir, 1995; Finch, Day, Razak, Welch, & Rogers 1998; Maislos et al., 1993; Maislos, Abou-Rabiah, Zuili, Iordash, & Shany, 1998). In fact, one study carried out in Saudi Arabia reported a significant increase in body weight during Ramadan (Frost & Pirani, 1987). Such variations may be attributable to local custom and food quality. In short, in Islamic communities - as elsewhere - food habits vary according to geography, culture, and socioeconomic factors (Musaiger, 1993; Rashed, 1992). Ramadan is a special month and the variety of foods generally increases (Karaagaoglu & Yucecan, 2000) so, during this period, richer meals and special treats are not uncommon in households that can afford them

Sleep disorders dan circadian patterns

This change of meal schedule is accompanied with changes in sleep habits, such as delayed and shortened sleep periods, which may affect endocrine and neuroendocrine circadian patterns. Several cardiovascular parameters (i.e., heart rate, blood pressure, vascular tone, and coagulation-fibrinolysis) show circadian pattern. Several studies reported that autonomic activity and melatonin rhtyhmicity may be responsible for circadian patterns of cardiovascular parameters. Changes of sleep habit in Ramadan affects autonomic activity and melatonin rhtyhmicity. The other negative effects may be that, during fasting patients with cardiovascular disease cannot consume medications, such as anti-ischemic, anti-platelet, anti-hypertensive drugs, and drugs of heart failure on time. Some patients may get admitted to the hospital with cardiovascular symptoms owing to failure of therapy

dan banyak lagi lah..

Salahka aku berkongsi ilmu di bulan ramadhan ni?

Peterpan17

Lejen posted on 5-8-2013 11:05 AM
Aku repost la fakta kesihatan bila orang berpuasa time ramadhan ni. Nak cakap kebenaran dikata pul ...

Bro, ko ni mmg ada mslh mental. Refer kpd post ko 1487. Cuba tunjuk dimana post kata  merasa istimewa bila sakit di bulan puasa?? Sila tunjuk.

Lejen

Peterpan17 posted on 5-8-2013 11:10 AM
Bro, ko ni mmg ada mslh mental. Refer kpd post ko 1487. Cuba tunjuk dimana post kata  merasa istim ...

Aku kata disebabkan ko sorang je kata bulan ramadhan ni ko tak sakit, maka ko anggap ramadhan ni istimewa.

aku reply kata orang lain pun ada jugak sakit di bulan ramadhan, tapi itu tak bermaksud istimewa ramadhan pada mereka.

since aku cerita pasal kesakitan di sini, sama ada ramadhan ni istimewa atau tidak tu tak penting. aku cuma sampaikan tentang medical effects je.

Peterpan17

Lejen posted on 5-8-2013 11:19 AM
Aku kata disebabkan ko sorang je kata bulan ramadhan ni ko tak sakit, maka ko anggap ramadhan ni i ...

Simple saja. Utk org Islam, bulan Ramadhan adalah bulan istimewa. Ko bg apa medical effect semua tu, bukan setakat bulan Ramadhan, apa bulan pun blh dtg sakit.

Lejen

Peterpan17 posted on 5-8-2013 11:21 AM
Simple saja. Utk org Islam, bulan Ramadhan adalah bulan istimewa. Ko bg apa medical effect semua t ...

Cuma percentage kesakitan tu meningkat la di bulan Ramadhan. Bulan Ramadhan banyak kes migrain dan dehidrasi.

Kalau untuk ibu mengandung boleh efek kepada berat bayi.

Peterpan17

Lejen posted on 5-8-2013 11:27 AM
Cuma percentage kesakitan tu meningkat la di bulan Ramadhan. Bulan Ramadhan banyak kes migrain dan ...

Ibu yg mengandung dibolehkan utk tak puasa. Apa mslhnya??

Ko pernah dengar ke org mati dibulan Ramadhan psl puasa?

Lejen

Peterpan17 posted on 5-8-2013 11:28 AM
Ibu yg mengandung dibolehkan utk tak puasa. Apa mslhnya??

Ko pernah dengar ke org mati dibulan  ...

Masalahnya kepada orang yang diwajibkan berpuasa.

Orang sakit tak semestinya mati.

xdielzx

Peterpan17 posted on 5-8-2013 11:28 AM
Ibu yg mengandung dibolehkan utk tak puasa. Apa mslhnya??

Ko pernah dengar ke org mati dibulan  ...

ade je.. severe dehydration as a complication of poorly controlled diabetes..

Peterpan17

Lejen posted on 5-8-2013 11:35 AM
Masalahnya kepada orang yang diwajibkan berpuasa.

Orang sakit tak semestinya mati.

Tulah psl aku tanya, ada ke ko pernah dengar org mati berpuasa dibulan posa?

Klu dah sakit dah sakit teruk, tak perlulah susahkan diri nak posa. Apa yg ko kecoh??

Peterpan17

xdielzx posted on 5-8-2013 11:39 AM
ade je.. severe dehydration as a complication of poorly controlled diabetes..

Itu namanya sendiri cari mati. Dah tau sakit, nak juga berpuasa. Org2 yg sakit tak posa pun bukan mslh. Mslh nya org2 yg tak mau faham hukum, sembarangan cakap.