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[Tempatan] Unassisted Homebirth (Kes Kematian Terbaru #1772 pg71)

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Post time 3-6-2015 10:50 PM | Show all posts
Changa replied at 3-6-2015 02:16 PM
haah sis masa zaman mak akak mmg beranak kat rumah namun ada bidan kesihatan dan bidan kampung sek ...

Deols terpengaruh dgn kisah bohsia-bohsia terberanak la uols. Fitrah alami sangat terberanak dalam jamban tanpa sekarang medical intervention gitu.
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Post time 3-6-2015 10:51 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
gelenyah replied at 3-6-2015 10:47 PM
Geram jugak tapi patient nak autonomi atas keputusan sendiri, tp malangnya bukan well-informed dec ...

I rasa makin parah dah dorg y anti hospital/vaksin ni. Maybe plg mudah campak je dorg ni kat pulau asing dr kita. Sng xganggu org dgn masalah n penyakit dorg.
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Post time 3-6-2015 11:40 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
gelenyah replied at 3-6-2015 10:50 PM
Deols terpengaruh dgn kisah bohsia-bohsia terberanak la uols. Fitrah alami sangat terberanak dalam ...

Kat fb tu ada yg komen kata bohsia tu mudah beranak sebab Allah nk beratkan azab kat akhirat.pastu dorg bidas balik ckp xde kena mngena.ni sume sebab posisi beranak dalam tekanan bila kat sepital.hihi

Dorg attact gambar gajah beranak dgn manusia terkangkang.
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Post time 3-6-2015 11:58 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
bit replied at 3-6-2015 05:38 PM
Orang dulu dulu nak beranak pun laki panggil bidan, gila ke haper nak beranak sorang sorang.  Bidan  ...

Sebut pasal batuk kokol ni, anak buah aku, baby 4 bulan seminggu admitted sebab batuk kokol. Dia mmg dapat vaksin tp sebab baby kan so belum cukup cycle. Doktor siasat kes. Doktor cakap kemungkinan berjangkit dari baby or bdk2 yang tak divaksin ni la. Sebab dia baby lagi, mudah kena jangkitan. Kesian sgt baby sampai sesak2 nafas.

Adik ipar saya doktor, marah betul dia dgn geng2 antivaksin ni. Tak pasal2 anak buah sendiri terkena disebabkan org lain yg degil tak mau vaksin anak masing2. Bawak dan sebarkan penyakit ke sana sini.
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Post time 4-6-2015 12:03 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Iols bace artikel kt Malay Mail tuh. Sakit pulak hati bace doc tu kene tindakan tatatertib. Hmm kalau mak tu berjaya homebirth takde complications haruslah diwar-warkan sbg produk UC yg success kan. Siap kronologi bagai nnt geng2 ni suke je nk share success story. Haish geram iols malam2 ni.
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Post time 4-6-2015 01:59 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
fahima80 replied at 3-6-2015 11:58 PM
Sebut pasal batuk kokol ni, anak buah aku, baby 4 bulan seminggu admitted sebab batuk kokol. Dia m ...

Anak buah uols hantar nursery ke? Anak anak yg xvaksin better jaga sendiri.vaksin pnemucocol tah betol ke x ejaannya ni kerajaan x support pon.kena.ambik sendiri kat swasta.
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Post time 4-6-2015 02:06 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
kyrana replied at 2-6-2015 12:28 PM
kawan u nama harlinda halim tu ke. famous gk dia ni dulu sbb lps dia homebirth anak dia kena prolo ...

Aku p blog dia xde pon pasal anak dia warded? Dh delete ek..
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yellowprestige replied at 4-6-2015 12:03 AM
Iols bace artikel kt Malay Mail tuh. Sakit pulak hati bace doc tu kene tindakan tatatertib. Hmm kala ...



Bagi link
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Post time 4-6-2015 08:15 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
naina replied at 4-6-2015 02:06 AM
Aku p blog dia xde pon pasal anak dia warded? Dh delete ek..

Kes dh lama tu lps dia homebirth anak awal 2014 kot.dolu2 dia citer kt fb je.harusla byk delete kot teruk kena bash geng doc.
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Post time 4-6-2015 08:20 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
fahima80 replied at 3-6-2015 11:58 PM
Sebut pasal batuk kokol ni, anak buah aku, baby 4 bulan seminggu admitted sebab batuk kokol. Dia m ...

Mmg ramai antivaksin skrg. Yg pasti dorg xrasa bersalah n berdosa sekali pun sbb mbahayakn nyawa org lain.
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Post time 4-6-2015 08:26 AM | Show all posts
kyrana replied at 4-6-2015 08:20 AM
Mmg ramai antivaksin skrg. Yg pasti dorg xrasa bersalah n berdosa sekali pun sbb mbahayakn nyawa o ...

konsepnya zaman dahulu kala takde vaksin pun elok je....nenek moyang kite hidup
soalnya zaman dulu manusia kurg penyakit... antibodi kuat.... makanan takde spesis ayam kena suntik.... takde makanan yg genetically modified bagai....
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Post time 4-6-2015 09:10 AM | Show all posts
tightcherry replied at 3-6-2015 05:54 PM
I dun care ape org ckp.. I mg opt epidural utk normak..Sukati la duit sendiri..

Bile branak cz ...

hahahaha dalil mana nih.? tergelak besar iolsssssss
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Post time 4-6-2015 09:17 AM | Show all posts
Edited by anissa_kyra at 4-6-2015 09:19 AM

from malay mail: http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/use-lidi-and-yam-roots-to-stitch-tear-doctor-advises

PETALING JAYA, June 3 — A young woman who sought treatment for a third degree tear after home birth has become the butt of crude and distasteful jokes from doctors who latched on to sarcastic comments posted on Facebook by the doctor who was treating her before delivery.


In the general tirade againt home birth by 26 others including young doctors, one even went as far as saying that the patient should use yam roots and a lidi (coconut leaf skewer) to stitch the wound.


If that was not rude enough, he went on to suggest in a similarly unprofessional vein that the first-time mother use glue and aloe vera to heal herself.

A Kuala Krai medical officer who agreed to the doctor’s post, mockingly said: “Yes, please repair naturally. No analgesia (painkiller) please."


Another doctor belittled the woman and patients who supported natural birth, saying “I guess positive vibes, giving birth while standing, lots of hugs, etc can’t prevent third degree tear? Hmmm, maybe because it was not natural enough.”


A third degree tear involves a tear through the perineal muscles and the muscle layer around the anal canal following a natural birth.


The person who started the sordid affair, a house officer at the Hospital Sultanah Nur Zahirah in Kuala Terengganu, had posted this on her Facebook page on Saturday night: “Homebirth. refused everything. Came to hospital for 3rd degree tear. Yes doctor, please repair my tear. Keep calm and continue oncall.” (sic)


To add insult to injury, the doctor also included part of the patient’s pregnancy record book in which the woman had said she would not require any medical attention during delivery at home.


The shocking use of unacceptable language and breach of patient-doctor confidentiality has come in for reprimand from the Malaysian Medical Association and the Malaysian Medical Council which took the doctor who belittled the mother and her fellow medical practitioners to task for bringing the profession into disrepute.   


A group of mothers who advocate home birth have also expressed outrage over the manner in which the doctors had treated the woman who went for a procedure that had gained acceptance worldwide.


The photograph of the woman has been circulated widely and found its way into other public Facebook postings despite an attempt to erase the patient’s signature.


The first Facebook posting has been taken down but the author and other doctors continue to discuss the matter openly on Facebook.


- See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.co ... thash.s5ch28Ox.dpuf

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Post time 4-6-2015 09:19 AM | Show all posts
yeaaaaa kesiannya kat dokter tuuuuuu.!! tapi mungkin dokter ni dah bengang gamaknya sampai lupa apa yg kena confidential.
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Post time 4-6-2015 09:20 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
dino replied at 4-6-2015 08:26 AM
konsepnya zaman dahulu kala takde vaksin pun elok je....nenek moyang kite hidup
soalnya zaman  ...

Itulah dgn kebanjiran pendatang skrg mcm2 penyakit dorg bwk.sungguh xfhm dgn kewujudan puak2 antivaksin ni.melawan arus kemodenan sgt.tp kepci pizza makan jugak anak beranak.
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Post time 4-6-2015 09:21 AM | Show all posts
Health Ministry to probe ‘Dr Belittle’ Facebook mockery fiasco - See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.co ... thash.SP2csdKa.dpuf


PETALING JAYA, June 4 — The Health Ministry will investigate the actions of a doctor who posted a patient’s pregnancy record book on social media after she sought treatment for a third degree tear after home birth.


Health deputy Director-General (Medical) Datuk Dr S. Jeyaindran said instructions have yet to be issued to the director of Hospital Sultanah Nur Zahirah in Kuala Terengganu on the next course of action against the house officer.


“We assure you that the matter will be looked into,” he said.


Yesterday, Malay Mail front-paged the mockery of a woman who gave birth at home by a doctor on social media.


Several doctors followed up with rude and demeaning comments about the patient who had a tear when giving birth and by being unprofessional, had also belittled the Hippocratic Oath.


The postings outraged mothers who prescribe to natural birth.


When asked if doctors were well-versed with professional ethics and soft skills, which are highly needed when dealing with patients in the most stressful circumstances on a daily basis, he said it was included in medical schools syllabus.


“Patient-doctor confidentiality, effective communication and medical ethics as well as other soft skills are included as part of their studies. But it is merely left as theories,” he said.


“Some just don’t take such points seriously.”


He said doctors and nurses must be compassionate and empathetic when dealing with patients.


“But because of the nature of the job in dealing with emergencies involving life, death and severe illnesses on a daily basis, some just become immune,” he said.


“They may appear to be less ‘sensitive’ to the patients and that may trigger dissatisfaction and anger. It is important for doctors and nurses to constantly remind themselves that patients are not in that ‘immune’ state.”


He also said among the common complaints received by public hospitals were rude doctors and those who did not provide details to their patients.


There were also instances where family members who were denied entry into procedure rooms became angry and lodged complaints.


“It becomes very tricky as defining rude can be very subjective. Although such complaints are not rampant, but when they are lodged, it will be investigated thoroughly,” Dr Jeyaindran said.


He said a hospital’s deputy-director would be in charge to investigate such complaints.


“After looking through the complaint, the staff (doctor or nurse) will be called in to explain their side of the story before a decision is made,” he added.


“In the event, if it is the staff member’s fault, he or she will be made to provide a verbal or written apology to the complainant. It is a simple process because usually such incidents occur because of an emotional reaction caused in the heat of the moment.”


- See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.co ... thash.SP2csdKa.dpuf
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Post time 4-6-2015 09:22 AM | Show all posts
juliez replied at 3-6-2015 10:19 PM
I see.. So patient ni complete package la. Bukan setakat geng UC, geng antivak sekali rupanya
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mostly geng2 natural birth ni akan complete package ngn breasfteeding,anti vax,babywearing,cloth diapering,etc
konon mak2 yang pakai stroller bwk anak ni x bonding,x cukup keibuan.bullshit.

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Post time 4-6-2015 09:23 AM | Show all posts
Edited by anissa_kyra at 4-6-2015 09:24 AM

PETALING JAYA, June 3 — Doctors have been told to wake up to the fact that home birthing is here to stay.


Hypno-birthing educator Nadine Ghows said the phenomena of doctors criticising mothers who advocate home birth had been going on for some time on social media.


She said the language used by the doctors tended to be patronising and condescending, oreflecting a lack of training on basic etiquette.


“Some doctors still see patients as someone to control ... this is partly due to the ‘white coat’ syndrome,” she said.


She said the attitude of some doctors towards patients was unhealthy and they lacked an understanding of their role in the patient-doctor relationship.


She was commenting on the case of a house officer who had posted confidential information on a patient on Facebook which in turn elicited rude and crude remarks from a host of others including doctors.


Nadine, in decrying the actions of the doctors, said  basic training on etiquette had to be offered to young doctors especially on the strict rule that they could not share any information on a patient with the public.


She said a medical lecturer from Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia (UKM) had started a basic etiquette course for young doctors last year.


“Maybe we will not see the results soon now. I hope this course will play a role in ensuring that humanity and respect are brought back to medical care,” she said.


Researcher and engineer Nur Firdaus A. Rahim, 31, said every patient had the right to their opinion on matters involving medical procedures and their requests had to be respected by doctors.


“They should not belittle or insult parents who holds their own opinions on such matters," she added.


“I am affected by their actions. I had initially planned to give birth at a government hospital but will now chose a private hospital that is more natural-birth friendly.”


Flight attendant Zamzilah Fairuz Kamarul Zaman, 30, said she did not mind doctors sharing their experience “but sharing patients’ records goes beyond the limit.’’


- See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.co ... thash.RZ2GJPia.dpuf
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Post time 4-6-2015 09:24 AM | Show all posts
PETALING JAYA, June 3 — A government doctor may have possibly breached patient confidentiality by discussing a young mother’s home delivery case over social media, says deputy health director-general (medical) Datuk Dr S. Jeyaindran.

He said the Health Ministry had regularly reminded doctors about Facebook use besides professional etiquette regarding medical discussions over the Internet.

Dr Jeyaindran said a patient’s information was always confidential.

“There is a very fine line because doctors sometimes use social media to discuss a patient’s condition or conduct consultations, but the patient’s name should never be revealed.”

He said there were implications and repercussions from public postings on social media which doctors may be unaware of.

“Unfortunately, a lot of doctors still do not realise that postings on social media may lead to breach of patient confidentiality and ethics,” he said when commenting on a young doctor’s Facebook post which ridiculed a patient suffering a third degree tear following a home birth.

Other medical professionals left mocking comments on the post.

Dr Jeyaindran, who is also a member of the Malaysian Medical Council, said it was inappropriate for medical professionals to post such comments.

“The use of social media to openly discuss patient issues is not appropriate and is definitely not advocated,” he said.

He said the council could investigate the matter if there were complaints from the patient, her family or the public.

“The doctor has to be present before the disciplinary committee to see what form of patient confidentiality has been breached,” he said.

“It does not matter who lodges the complaint because the doctor’s professional conduct will be examined.

“We will also study what information was shared in the post.”

On home birthing, Dr Jeyaindran said the ministry did not advocate it because of the risks that could lead to complications.

It is understood an investigation will be carried out on the direction of the director-general of health to ascertain if there was a breach of professional conduct and patient confidentiality.

- See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.co ... thash.jA13YXcW.dpuf
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Post time 4-6-2015 09:25 AM | Show all posts
abih dah iolsss tepek untuk uolssss.

speechless kejap.
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