Attacks on Muslim minorities by radicals on the rise in Indonesia

tobby

syukur alhamdullillah kat Msia orang islam masih waras. just imagine kalau muslim Msia melakukan perkara yg sama ke atas pengikut Al-Arqam & pengikut ayah Pin.


Recent attacks against Muslims who fall outside mainstream Islamic beliefs and non-Muslims have caused great alarm among moderates who blame the violence on a fatwa issued by the Indonesian Council of Ulama against heresy.

THE recent violent attacks against Indonesia's tiny but peaceful Ahmadiyah Muslim sect has come to symbolise the struggle between moderates and radicals in the world's most populous Muslim nation.
  
Ahmadiyah members have been stabbed, their surau and mosques burnt or vandalised in villages and districts across the country.



  
Moderate Muslim leaders and scholars blame the attacks on a fatwa issued by the Indonesian Council of Ulama (MUI) against heresy in November.

They warned the edict could become a powerful tool to terrorise Muslim movements which disagreed with conservative Islam and to justify attacks by radicals against Muslims who fall outside mainstream Islam.
  
"It (fatwa) has the potential to create conflict and violence. The word 'deviant' will be a powerful tool to terrorise Muslim movements," said the Wahid Institute in its latest monthly report.

"Secondly, MUI's fatwa on deviant sects has led to the establishment of militias," the report added.

The Wahid Institute was founded by former president Abdurrahman Wahid to seed Islamic pluralism.

Unfortunately, the government unwittingly and inadvertently lent credence to the controversiol edict when President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono reportedly said he agreed with it.

"President Susilo has given legitimacy to the fatwa when he said he will abide by it," said Ahmad Suaedy, executive director of the Wahid Institute.

"If there are deviant movements, the government should be using the Penal Code to prosecute them and not fatwa by MUI as this is a secular state as guaranteed by the Constitution," Suaedy said.

On Dec 18, a thousand-strong mob, some armed with parang, spears and bamboo sticks, attacked Ahmadiyah homes, surau and mosques in Manis Lor village, Kuningan, West Java.

"People were beaten, had stones thrown at them but the police just stood by and did nothing. They did not arrest a single person," eye-witness Rosidin told the New Straits Times in a telephone interview from Kuningan.

Gravedigger

Originally posted by tobby at 2-1-2008 08:53 PM
syukur alhamdullillah kat Msia orang islam masih waras. just imagine kalau muslim Msia melakukan perkara yg sama ke atas pengikut Al-Arqam & pengikut ayah Pin.


Recent attacks against Muslims ...

Agaknya pengikut mazhab manakah yang menyerang golongan Ahmadiyah ni??

tobby

Originally posted by Gravedigger at 2-1-2008 08:58 PM


Agaknya pengikut mazhab manakah yang menyerang golongan Ahmadiyah ni??

pengikut mazhab sunni yg ekstrimis.

Gravedigger

Originally posted by tobby at 2-1-2008 09:03 PM


pengikut mazhab sunni yg ekstrimis.

Mana ada sunni ekstremis...sebab yang bagi gelaran ekstremis ialah Yahudi. Islam itu kenalah jadi ekstremis sebab kalau tak berjaya mengalahkan hujjah lawan maka kenalah bom mereka....maka yang terbunuh itulah yang salah.

tobby

syiah ekstrimis pun tak da klu mcm tu.

Gravedigger

Originally posted by tobby at 2-1-2008 10:19 PM
syiah ekstrimis pun tak da klu mcm tu.

Syiah takder ekstremis kot sebab depa takder pulak bom perempuan dan kanak2 macam yang wahabi buat.

kupia

Dah lama dah Gerakan Ahmadiyah ni bertapak di Indonesia, fatwa ulamak ulamak Indonesia keta depa ni terkeluar dari Islam tapi mereka tak diharamkan.  Dulu masa zaman Allahyarham Hassan Bandung selalu jadi debat terbuka dengan diaorang ni, tak pernah jadi gaduh ke apa2.  Sekarang ni dah kena belasah pulak?...

Ahmadiyah yang aku maksud di sini ialah qadiani (mirza gulam ahmad)...

Gravedigger

Originally posted by kupia at 2-1-2008 11:05 PM
Dah lama dah Gerakan Ahmadiyah ni bertapak di Indonesia, fatwa ulamak ulamak Indonesia keta depa ni terkeluar dari Islam tapi mereka tak diharamkan.  Dulu masa zaman Allahyarham Hassan Bandung se ...

Wahabi Malaysia ni tak mau serang Ahmadiyah di Kampung Nakhoda tu ker?? Jihad juga tu.

Gravedigger

Originally posted by kupia at 2-1-2008 11:05 PM
Ahmadiyah yang aku maksud di sini ialah qadiani (mirza gulam ahmad)...  Malaysia dan Uganda yang mengharamkan gerakan diaorang ni..

Bukan Malaysia dan Uganda saja bang yang mengharamkan Qadiani ni tapi seluruh negara Islam yang bernaung di bawah OIC tu dahpun turut mengharamkan ajaran ini. Syiah takder pula depa haramkan noo. Rajin2lah ikut perkembangan semasa yer.

kupia

Orang bukan Islam lain boleh hidup senang lenang kat Malaysia tak kan pi attack depa kot.... pejabat ugama pun tak pernah dengar pi kacau depa kat kg. nakhoda tu...

tobby

syiah pun tak kena bunuh kat Msia. muslim Msia masih waras.

Gravedigger

Originally posted by tobby at 3-1-2008 12:52 AM
syiah pun tak kena bunuh kat Msia. muslim Msia masih waras.

Sebab nyer....wahabi masih belum berkuasa lagi di sini. Yesss...rakyat Msia masih waras lagi.

tobby

Originally posted by Gravedigger at 3-1-2008 06:56 AM


Sebab nyer....wahabi masih belum berkuasa lagi di sini. Yesss...rakyat Msia masih waras lagi.

yes. sunni masih waras. kalau tidak naya la syiah.

Gravedigger

Originally posted by tobby at 3-1-2008 09:01 AM


yes. sunni masih waras. kalau tidak naya la syiah.

Alhamdulillah syukurlah orang sunni sudah sedar tentang bahaya wahabi sebab kalau pengganas wahabi diberikan kuasa, orang sunni pun kena bunuh juga macam di Iraq sekarang. Wahabi sudahpun dihalau keluar dari bumi Iraq sekarang oleh pejuang2 sunni sendiri.

M5

Originally posted by Gravedigger at 2-1-2008 09:25 PM


Mana ada sunni ekstremis...sebab yang bagi gelaran ekstremis ialah Yahudi. Islam itu kenalah jadi ekstremis sebab kalau tak berjaya mengalahkan hujjah lawan maka kenalah bom mereka....maka ya ...

Betul ke Pak Grave ape yg ko cakap ni?  Bunyi macam Mat Osama je

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kupia

Originally posted by Gravedigger at 8-1-2008 12:16 AM
Alhamdulillah syukurlah orang sunni sudah sedartentang bahaya wahabi sebab kalau pengganas wahabi diberikan kuasa,orang sunni pun kena bunuh juga macam di Iraq sekarang. Wahabi sudahpundihalau keluar dari bumi Iraq sekarang oleh pejuang2 sunni sendiri.

Sunni yang mudah boleh dibeli di Iraq yang berperang dengan Al-Qaeda tu sebenarnya puak tareqat, naqsyabandi kebanyakannya, lebih kurang sama aja fahaman dengan syiah tu apa bezanya.

Gravedigger

Originally posted by M5 at 11-1-2008 11:17 PM


Betul ke Pak Grave ape yg ko cakap ni?  Bunyi macam Mat Osama je

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Betulll.....itulah dia Islam tulen Mat Osama yang disanjungi oleh wahabi Malaysia ini.

Gravedigger

Originally posted by kupia at 11-1-2008 11:30 PM


Sunni yang mudah boleh dibeli di Iraq yang berperang dengan Al-Qaeda tu sebenarnya puak tareqat, naqsyabandi kebanyakannya, lebih kurang sama aja fahaman dengan syiah tu apa bezanya.

Muahahahahaa....pulok doh! Tareqat naqsyabandi pula jadi kambing hitam wahabi. Hantam sajalah labu!

M5

Originally posted by Gravedigger at 12-1-2008 12:41 AM

Muahahahahaa....pulok doh! Tareqat naqsyabandi pula jadi kambing hitam wahabi. Hantam sajalah labu!

Hehehe, lepas ni siapa pulak dikambing hitamkan dek puak2 wahabi ni.  Tak pasal2 teringat pulak eden kat Osama anak Jamal Abdillah.  

Kerengge

Originally posted by kupia at 2-1-2008 11:15 PM
Orang bukan Islam lain boleh hidup senang lenang kat Malaysia tak kan pi attack depa kot.... pejabat ugama pun tak pernah dengar pi kacau depa kat kg. nakhoda tu...

maaf mencelah.........jadik ajaran Qadiyani nih bukan sebahagian dari ajaran Islam ler yer......

kalo cam tuh tak der beza ler ngan agama Hindu ataw pon Buddha.....tak gituuu ker...