Post time 28-6-2017 12:31 AMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
alya_daniela replied at 27-6-2017 11:09 PM
boss lama alya sokong DAP ada ke suruh orang sokong DAP dekat tempat kerja melayu yang kerja ...
Syukurlah bos sokong dap masih bagi macai umno perkauman assobiyah bekerja tempat dia berbanding bos macai umno.. tahu org sokong parti lain, bagi notis suruh berenti kerja... bantu melayu kunun harkkk tuihhhh laa umno...
Post time 28-6-2017 02:22 AMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
Edited by pyropura at 28-6-2017 02:24 AM
... Zaid: I think of God all the time, not only in emergencies
PETALING JAYA: Zaid Ibrahim today defended his remark against an AirAsia pilot who asked passengers to pray during a problematic flight, after PAS Youth chief Nik Abduh Nik Aziz said it was only normal to remember God during emergencies.
In a tweet, Zaid said, “Nik Abduh remembers God during emergencies; I remember God all the time.”
The former minister also took the opportunity to explain his remarks on the pilot’s behaviour.
“When an engine is shaking, passengers would say a prayer, there is no need for a pilot to add on to the anxiety. That is what I meant,” Zaid said.
“The chairman of AirAsia says there is nothing wrong seeking divine intervention,” he said in a separate statement to FMT.
“Like Nik Abduh, he misses the point.
“The passengers had probably done so, when the engine was about to fall off. Nothing wrong with that.
“But when the pilot enjoined everyone to do so, how would the passengers know he was in control and calm and collected? How would the passengers know he had not given up?”
He said this after Nik Abduh rebuked him for his remarks over an incident two days ago in which AirAsia X flight D7237 was forced to turn back to Perth after experiencing difficulties with one of its engines.
An explosion was said to have occurred on the left engine with one of the fans on the turbine having broken off.
As the plane was “shaking like a washing machine”, according to one of the passengers, the pilot asked everyone to pray for a safe landing as the flight was re-routed to Perth.
Taking to Twitter to express his disapproval, Zaid had said, “AirAsia pilot urged passengers to pray on distressed Perth flight. Good lord, I much prefer pilot don’t tell me death is imminent,” he said.
He also mocked AirAsia over the issue, saying, “Pilot has to give hope, and leave the rest to God and the passengers. If AirAsia are big into prayers; engage proper imam and priest.”
Nik Abduh was one of several PAS members who, along with several social media users, defended the pilot’s action.
The PAS Youth chief said he hoped Zaid, who was now a DAP leader, would pray when faced with an emergency.
He said Zaid should not have questioned the pilot as it was a norm for people to seek assistance from God during such times.
After turning back, the flight in question landed safely in Perth at 10am that day.
According to AFP, the incident is the second one this month involving an Airbus A330 in Australia. Previously, a China Eastern flight was forced to make an emergency landing in Sydney after a huge hole appeared in one of its engine casings.
Post time 28-6-2017 09:27 AMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
Decaffeinated replied at 27-6-2017 01:02 AM
Isunya it's the message that the pilot is sending out that they were going down when obviously his ...
i reserved my comments on all the technical options/actions, since i have no knowledge on that..
whether they survived by a thin of luck or there was nothing major going on during the flight, also i dont know..
but there was nothing wrong with asking others to pray together..
Zaid beri perbandingan bilik bedah, jawab tuduhan ‘tolak doa’
PETALING JAYA: Selepas dikritik pelbagai pihak malah dituduh “menolak doa”, Datuk Zaid Ibrahim hari ini sekali lagi tampil menjelaskan komennya terhadap seorang juruterbang AirAsia baru-baru ini berhubung ajakan kepada penumpang untuk berdoa di saat pesawat dilanda masalah.
“Bila enjin pesawat bergegar nak tercabut atau mengalami masalah, saya percaya semua penumpang telah pun berdoa melalui cara masing-masing ketika itu. Tak payahlah juruterbang menambahkan lagi kerisauan mereka,” kata Zaid hari ini.
Semalam, Pengerusi AirAsia Bhd mempertahankan juruterbang AirAsia X flight D7237 kerana meminta penumpang berdoa ketika kecemasan dalam penerbangan dari Perth ke Kuala Lumpur yang terpaksa berpatah balik Ahad lepas.
“Apa salahnya meminta orang berdoa mengikut agama masing-masing terutamanya apabila kamu dalam keadaan yang sukar, memohon pertolongan Tuhan sambil melakukan apa yang termampu dengan kekuatan sendiri?” soal Datuk Kamarudin Meranun.
Dalam jawapannya, Zaid berkata beliau bukan mempersoalkan naluri manusia berdoa.
“Untuk pengerusi AirAsia, saya katakan di sini, isunya bukan apakah baik meminta ‘divine intervention’ (pertolongan Tuhan) tetapi apakah wajar juruterbang meminta penumpang berbuat demikian,” katanya.
Bilik bedah
Zaid berkata ramai yang “menghentamnya” tidak faham dengan kenyataannya itu.
“Bila enjin pesawat bergegar nak tercabut atau mengalami masalah, saya percaya semua penumpang telah pun berdoa melalui cara masing-masing ketika itu. Tak payahlah juruterbang menambahkan lagi kerisauan mereka,” katanya.
Bekas menteri yang kini menyertai DAP itu turut membuat perbandingan saat kecemasan di atas pesawat dengan situasi ketika pembedahan.
“Katakan anda dibedah oleh seorang pakar jantung, tiba-tiba semasa pembedahan, dia terus meminta semua keluarga termasuk anda sendiri untuk membaca doa. Bukankah itu menunjukkan anda dalam keadaaan tenat dan mungkin mati? Apakah ini yang kita mahu dari juruterbang dan pakar bedah kita?”
Zaid turut menolak anggapan yang menuduhnya tidak berdoa, seperti dicadangkan ahli Parlimen PAS, Nik Mohamad Abduh Nik Aziz.
Sambil menyelar pemimpin PAS itu “sombong dan menganggap dirinya alim”, Zaid berkata sikap sedemikian ialah “penyakit lama di kalangan ahli PAS”.
“Nik Abduh membuat banyak tuduhan lain yang menghina saya dalam Facebook beliau, dan saya tidak mudah lupa. Saya akan membuat tindakan susulan yang lain di masa depan,” kata Zaid.
Nik Abduh dalam kiriman Facebook mempersoalkan Zaid sambil berkata “bila agaknya Zaid berdoa kepada tuhannya?”
“Saya doakan saatnya nanti, fitrah Dato Zaid Ibrahim akan tersembul keluar. Biar Allah tunjukkan dengan hikmat-Nya bahawa untuk menagih harapan hidup dan umur lebih panjang, dia akan dipaksa fitrahnya untuk turut berdoa kepada tuhannya,” kata pemimpin PAS itu.
Zaid berkata isu sama ada dibolehkan berdoa atau tidak “tidak timbul” dan menganggap Nik Abduh tidak faham komennya.
“Sebenarnya ini tidaklah mengejutkan, kerana Nik Abduh juga tidak memahami 1MDB, satu perkara yang mudah diafahami,” katanya.
Post time 28-6-2017 10:15 AMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
alya_daniela replied at 28-6-2017 10:03 AM
Zaid beri perbandingan bilik bedah, jawab tuduhan ‘tolak doa’
sempat pulak surgeon tu keluar dari op semata2 nak suruh family berdoa..
tapi ai masuk spital aritu, doc cakap kena admit terus nanges..
doc tu pun terus ajar doa ke zikir menda tah..padehal bukan sakit nak mati pun..
admit untuk monitoring ja..
tak sentap pun ngan doc tu..
Post time 27-6-2017 11:51 PM
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