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lukisan muka jesus jadi monyet ...kini karya sensasi paling lawak
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obelisk posted on 25-9-2012 11:40 AM 
Maher Zain posting dalam Fb...
statement maher zain ni mengelirukan.. umat islam percaya nabi isa, org kristian percaya jesus.
ms aku kat sekolah ustad aku ckp nabi isa dgn jesus tu 2 watak yg berbeza. kalo ko percaya jesus x de bezanya la dgn org kristian. huhuhu......
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ronin posted on 25-9-2012 11:05 AM
yes personal, not just him/her.....if I have a chance I wanna know each and everyone's face...mayb ...
perhaps you can do us the honour and present yourself here?  |
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otai_g posted on 25-9-2012 11:43 AM
statement maher zain ni mengelirukan.. umat islam percaya nabi isa, org kristian percaya jesus.
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Mmg ummah sendiri yg suka keliru lagi mengelirukan.. Antara Isa & Jesus tu lagi mudah nak taip Isa.. Tapi still nak guna Jesus.. Ala2 nak urban kekdahnya kot... Suka sgt terikut2 keBaratan...
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OsHiN_hOnEy posted on 25-9-2012 11:44 AM
perhaps you can do us the honour and present yourself here?
maybe in future shin...
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obelisk posted on 25-9-2012 11:40 AM
Maher Zain posting dalam Fb...
entah2 ummah yahodi and nosroni hacked FB maher and post this article 
mana kita tahu kan? kita kan ummah terpilih tu sebab bersepah baby di buang merata tempat |
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ronin posted on 25-9-2012 11:48 AM
maybe in future shin...
ciss!!  |
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otai_g posted on 25-9-2012 11:43 AM
statement maher zain ni mengelirukan.. umat islam percaya nabi isa, org kristian percaya jesus.
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sila baca dengan teliti ye pencerahan berikut...
Any student of Arabic grammar would notice that most of the Prophets’ names mentioned in the Qur’an are of the “prevented from morphology” category (ممنوع من الصرف). You see, in Arabic grammar there are many special types of words that are prevented from taking certain morphological case markings and thus do not get kasrah (-/i/) or tanween (-/n/). One of the categories that is “prevented from morphology” is the non-Arabic proper noun (العلم الأعجمي). Indeed, most of the Prophets’ names are of this category because those Prophets were not Arabs and therefore their names are not Arabic. So when revealing the Qur’an, God Arabized those names in order for the Arabs to relate to them. Whereas had he kept those names in their original Hebrew or otherwise it wouldn’t have flowed right for them. Ponder the following verse:
“Surely we have revealed it (the scripture) as an Arabic Qur’an (recitation) so that you (Arabs) may understand it,” (Qur’an 12:2).
Based on this, these Prophets were not called, in their time and by their people, by their Arabized names, like Ibrahim(Abraham), Is’haaq(Isaac), Ya`qoob(Jacob), Yusuf(Joseph), Musa(Moses), `Isa(Jesus), etc. What I am suggesting we do is follow the example of the All-Wise and Omniscient and thus we refer to the Prophets in English according to the translations of the Bible already available so as to help English speakers relate to it.
untuk keterangan lebih lanjut sila refer sini: http://lifemualaf.blogspot.com/2011/09/myth-of-bin-abdullah.html
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OsHiN_hOnEy posted on 25-9-2012 11:49 AM
entah2 ummah yahodi and nosroni hacked FB maher and post this article
mana kita tahu kan? ...
A self proclaimed wise man (not to be confused with a self proclaimed penganut Isle sebenerrrr) once said "Apa salahnya kalau kita jadi terrorist, orang lain lagi terrorist tawwww!"
Maideen~ Prrrrrrrrpffffftht
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melia_star posted on 25-9-2012 11:29 AM
ntah haper bende yg korang bertekak dlm ni.....tred ni pasai sindiran pd MAPS baru Iphone5 yg carca ...
tapi apa kena mengena 'gambar' ngan maps?
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Sbg yg beriman kpd al-Qur'an, al-Qur'an diturunkan dlm BAHASA ARAB & telah disebut bahawa nama Nabi 'ISA adalah dlm BAHASA ARAB, tidak pernah disebutkan Jesus dlm al-Qur'an. Maka jika Kristian beranggapan bahawa Jesus yg mereka percayai adalah Nabi ALLAH, maka itu sama dgn Nabi ISA A.S namun sekiranya yg mereka percayai itu adalah anak tuhan, yg merupakan tuhan dlm konsep triniti, maka itu bukanlah ISA kerana Nabi ISA adalah Nabi & manusia & BUKAN TUHAN MAHUPUN ANAK TUHAN.
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masing masing gama perasan mereka yg benar bukan semua rekaan manusia ker |
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aku tukang kasi pecah lobang jer |
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abgboroi posted on 25-9-2012 02:29 PM
sebab apple maps dalam iphone 5 lebih kurang gambar jesus yang x sengaja rosak jadi muka monyet tu ...
gambar2 tu bukan dr satelite ke? |
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cmf_shalom posted on 24-9-2012 11:37 PM
Tempoh tahun 33 AD-100 AD dikenali sebagai Apostolic Age oleh sarjana Kristian.
Tempoh ini meru ...
Laju sangat thread ni ... ko tulis panjang2 pun terus tenggelam !
Dalam tempoh Apoctolic Age tersebut, adakah terdapat sebarang dokumen/bukti sama ada dari sumber xtian n non xtian yg menunjukkan terdapat percanggahan?
1 kelompok cakap Yesus adalah nabi. 1 kelompok lagi cakap Yesus Tuhan?
Tapi ada juga yg mengaku Islam kat sini yg kata tiada korup - mereka juga percaya yesus itu tuhan.
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Nazrulism posted on 25-9-2012 05:02 PM
Laju sangat thread ni ... ko tulis panjang2 pun terus tenggelam !
Ko tanya tentang percanggahan ...
Rasanya anda salah faham maksudnya saya.
Apa yg cuba saya sampaikan adalah...sekiranya terdapat dua kelompok, iaitu 1 team Para Rasul dan satu lagi team Paulus...sudah pasti perpecahan tsebut akan disebut dalam sumber xtian dan bukan xtian.
Walaubagimanapun, sehingga kini...TIDAK WUJUD sebarang bukti yg boleh meyokong andaian bahawa berlaku perpecahan tsebut.
Setakat ni, dokumen yg kita ada menyatakan bahawa umat xtian pada tempoh Apostolic Age mempunyai kepercayaan yg sama iaitu Yesus adalah Tuhan, telah disalibkan demi pengampunan dosa.
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Manami posted on 25-9-2012 08:48 AM
Menurut agama Kristian, Jesus ataupun Nabi Isa a.s telah mati disalib oleh orang-orang yahudi. Dan i ...
Apa yang sr tulis menunjukkan bahawa dikalangan orang Islam sendiri terdapat berbeza pendapat mengenai kehidupan akhir Yesus.
Kalau berdasarkan sumber Islam, rdapat 6 teori berbeza dikalangan orang Islam untuk menjelaskan bagaimana riwayat Yesus terakhir didunia ini.
Teori pertama, substitution, iaitu orang lain yang disalib
Teori kedua, Dual-Spheres, yang disalib adalah jasad Yesus, tetapi bukannya pengetahuan Yesus
Teori ketiga, knowledge, ayat Quran bercerita bukan berkenaan kematian Yesus, tetapi pengetahuan
Teori keempat, Sovereignty, Yesus mungkin telah mati dibunuh,seperti mana nabi lagi turut dibunuh
Teori kelima, unsure of substitution, tidak pasti apa yang berlaku sebenarnya
Teori keenam, figurative Docetism, lebih kurang sama dengan teori no. 2.
Teori yang paling terkenal adalah teori pertama, iaitu orang lain yang disalib. Tetapi seperti yg manami telah jelaskan, teori ini juga banyak cabang dan tidak pasti siapa sebenarnya yang digantikan untuk disalib. Menurut al-Kalbi adalah Natyanus, , menurut Ibn Munabbih adalah Judas, menurut Mutaqil adalah salah seorang pengawal, menurut ibn Ishaq adalah Serjes, menurut Al-Maruridi adalah salah seorang daripada Yahudi, menurut al-thalabi adalah Pilate, menurut al-Qusshayri , Al-Suyuti dan Ibn Kathir adalah salah seorang daripada Para Rasul.
Ok, mungkin saya berbual lebih lanjut skit, menurut setengah pendapat,makna cause me to die (tawafffaitani) adalah merujuk kepada cara kematian biasa. Pendapat ini dipegang oleh Dr. Mahmut Shaltut, bekas rektor Universiti Al-Azhar.
Ada juga ahli teologi Islam yang tiada halangan dengan tafsir bahawa Yesus memang disalib. Pendapat ini dipegang oleh Wahb ibn Munabbih dan Qasim ibn Ibrahim.
Selain itu, menurut analisis Todd Lawson:
“YAHYA IBN ZIYAD AL-FARRA' (d.207/822-3): Yahya ibn Ziyad al-Farra'was the Kufan author of one of the ear­liestextant works on Qur'anic sciences.His sobriquet is a pun. Thus he isremembered as one who 'skins' or rigorously analyses language,not a furrier. His expertise andreputation are con­firmed by thefact that he was appointed tutor to two sons of the Caliph al-Ma'mun(d. 218/833). His Ma 'amal-Qur 'an ismainly concerned with basicgrammatical questions, much like thelater work of the same title written a century later by al-Zajjaj…At 4:157, al-Farra' is concerned only to saythat the pronomi­nal suffix ha'ending the verbal cluster maqataluhu (the him of they did notkill him) refersto knowledge rather than to Jesus'as when one says: "I knew it perfectly (qataltu'ilman)" and it means "Iknew it certainly" instead of [mere] opinion, verbal report orconjecture'. We shall see this grammatical explanation repeated orreferred to several times in the following pages. Theimportant thing here is that this influential scholar and exemplaryMuslim did not find it necessary to include a statement either for oragainst the Christian belief in the historicity of the crucifixion.As such, his commentary is a good example of the proposition that oneof the frequently unacknowledged factors at play in dis­cussionsof this issue is that it is simply not as relevant as one mightotherwise think. That al-Farra' alsoexplicitly indicates that it is not Jesus whom the Qur'an is sayingwas not killed is also quitesignificant as a development in the history of the formal exegesis ofthe verse."
The Crucifixion and the Quran: A Study in the History of Muslim Thought. Todd Lawson. OneWorld:2009
Masalah berhubung riwayat Yesus dalam tradisi Islam menyebabkan Ibn Ishaq didalam rumusan beliau menyatakan:
“Thecommentary ends judiciously with, ‘AndGod knows best how it really was.’
Last edited by cmf_shalom on 25-9-2012 07:55 PM
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