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wa kadang-kadang harian thead ni masih hangat cakap. setahu wa tiada lagi "$" utk MRCA baru at least 5 tahun 2010-2015, pastu itu hannya 30% ada peluang dapat MRCA baru itu pun kalau TDM & TLDM tak mau "toy" baru. |
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520# dreamwarrior
talking bout figures, kapai rusky nih boleh la kita kaitkan dengan peribahasa sikit2, lama2 jadi bukit.... atau the other way round, bukit2, lama2 jadi sikit.... |
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521# cmf_nando
ala.... 11 billion mau belanja maa... sikit2 moleh la hangkat itu gripen sama erieye.... |
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Post Last Edit by supergripen at 10-4-2010 18:53
Read from a Russian website that the Malaysian government just put out a new RFI for the F-5 replacement in 2011.The said article dated 25/3/2010.The RFI is for 30-40 aircrafts and at the moment,the Gripen,SH and the Su-30MKM are the contenders.
The author also noted that this is not the first time such request hv been made and each time,it all comes to nothing.Pretty embarassing if u ask me,in fact,some companies hv voiced their dissatisfaction and have said that if this one ends up the same as the last few ones,future RFI/RFPs might not be entertained.
Have heard from insiders that we were very very close to a deal with Saab during last year's LIMA but at the 11th hour,it all went sour when BAe made some 'contributions' to certain 'people' to get us to consider the Typhoon.
The Typhoon??? As if..
I'm pretty sore that the Gripen deal didn't come thru..reason why I haven't posted here in a while.In a nutshell,Saab offered us 30 Gripens+2 Saab 2000 Erieye while taking in all our Mig-29s,all our Hawks.Don't shoot me if this is to be disputed,I'm merely relaying what my inside source told me.It was a very very good deal that we abandoned and Saab was understabdably pissed.
The Su-30MKM system integration is still in shambles by the way..
Excellent. |
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Just saw the morning news on Zahid's visit to Gong Kedak.Giro's MKM was sporting a Damocles pod under the right engine nacelle.
I really do hope they solve their systems integration problems,failing which I think we should just get the 'South African' system that would enable proper integration,as per the MKI. |
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524# supergripen
dont worry grip, there's still hope for ur beloved gripen. just like the cougars, one day the deal is off, the next day it's on again. they might need a bit more time to iron out some minor or major details regarding the package, it's a big buy certainly and both parties wanna end up in the winning side... |
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526# supergripen
hehehe.... "South African's" one...... jelly good..... |
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;)Win,saper yg tahu tu tahu lah..ye tak?
Sayang la if the Sukhoi ends up as a display jet like the other type yg kuat berasap tu. |
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Post Last Edit by supergripen at 11-4-2010 08:35
Yup..go go Gripen!!!! Absolute best and most perfect jet for our requirements,even the Air Force thinks so.Cuma the politicians and their pet jerungs je yg tak nampak.
ps-talking about Russian jets just leaves me with some very bad aftertaste..mana kayu sugi aku! |
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531# supergripen
I tend to agree more with you about the gripens... the best suited fighter requirement that we need for our environment, no doubt about it, be it now or for the next 20 years. And IF they go ahead with the 40 Gripens for RMAF, I would say, that will be the best ever decision made by our decision makers in term of fighters deal in Malaysian history yet..... |
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Yup,I think a Gripen NG with the Selex ES05 Raven AESA,enhanced net-centric capable,supercruise able and armed with the Meteor/IRIS-T combo WILL indeed be the best thing to happen to the RMAF..should they decide on it.
Mind,the Gripen NG is pitched against the JSF in many markets.Considered a more cost effective alternative to the JSF,the NG is actually as effective as the JSF in AA simulations against Su-35BMs. |
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524# supergripen br
my source also saying the same thing... only at the last moment BAE comes in with their Eurofighter plus their economic package to our politician and spoil everything... so the deal with gripen stop for awhile, at that time MAF are getting their men ready to be send to Sweden.
so now donno what happened la, maybe this fary tale will come back during DSA or we have to wait for the next LIMA he he.....maybe all this just for the airshow la, no wonder not many com. sending thair aircraft for the airshow, its all bullshit.. |
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Exactly how I heard it..BAe giving out goodies to certain 'people' and that was the end of Saab's hope.I don't think they'll be coming back to LIMA shud this b#llsh!t continue.
More than anything,in some markets,the JSF was chosen over the Gripen NG solely due to political pressure.In neutral countries such as Switzerland,the Gripen NG still holds the upper hand.They have a requirement for 30 jets to replace their F-5E/Fs.
Looking at BAe's history in Malaysia with the Hawk100/200 debacle,it's pretty difficult to be optimistic for the Gripen NG in RMAF colours. |
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Post Last Edit by supergripen at 10-4-2010 18:53
Read from a Russian website that the Malaysian government just put out a new RFI for the F-5 replacement in 2011.The said article dated 25/3/2010.Th ...
supergripen Post at 10-4-2010 18:51 
Bila was baca "insider views" was bertambah sedih. RFP belum siap. tiba tiba sudah mau sign kontrack dgn saab utk gripn. macam mana ni, tax payer duit habis macam itu shj ke. :@
bagi wa, selagi tiada gripen muncul dalam LIMA, tiada harapan utk gripen dlm rmaf color. Lagi satu, tak munsabash kalau BAE mau kacau, kan dia pun pegang share dlm SAAB. Nanti, gaduh pulak dlm BOD meeting. |
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semua ti cite cover line kut? bottomline tadak duit.... |
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Terima je hakikat, perolehan dalam 2-3 tahun ni dah beri satu imej buruk pada setengah politician (kerajaan). PRU pertama yang Najib nak jumpa ni, dia takkan amik risiko untuk bg peluang pd pembangkang untuk politikkan satu issue baru. Nampak sangat semua perolehan yang besar akan dibuat, lepas PRU yang akan datang. Plus kerajaan perlukan majoriti BN yang lebih besar untuk lowerkan tune pembangkang dalam hal perolehan. Budget bukan satu hal besar sebenarnya, memandangkan semuanya dibuat secara hutang n timbal balik.
*bukan nak sentuh bab politik. cuma pandangan tentang situasi perolehan. |
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538# pcboss
Setuju... politics always has and probably will indeed continue to influence all defense procurement decisions.That's why in almost all cases our fighter choice has been way off the mark,and frought with many problems and complications.
Sad really... but that's how things work apparently. |
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Malaysia aims to upgrade air force with new fighters, AEW aircraft
By Leithen Francis
Malaysia's air force suffers from too many aircraft types and aircraft that fail to keep up with recent purchases by its neighbours.
But government and air force officials are working to upgrade the air force's capability, despite cuts to this year's defence budget. Requests for information for fighter aircraft and airborne early warning platforms were issued in mid-March, even though Kuala Lumpur cut the 2010 defence budget by 17% to 9.1 billion ringgit ($2.7 billion) to cut its overall deficit.
Before this cut, Malaysia's defence budget had risen in 2007 (8%), 2008 (20%) and 2009 (4%), with the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute saying that the country, for 2005-09, had the biggest increase in defence spending of any South-East Asian nation.
The requests for information have been issued now because Malaysia is formulating its 10th five-year national plan that outlines key national projects for 2011-15. There is, however, a strong possibility that Malaysia's larger defence procurements will be made off-budget. Earlier purchases of Airbus Military A400Ms and Sukhoi Su-30s, for example, were never part of the annual defence budgets.
Even though Malaysia has issued a formal RFI, some suppliers are sceptical. This is the third time Malaysia it has done so for fighters and AEW aircraft. But this time, the Malaysians seem to be a bit more serious, says one industry source. "This is the third time they are asking for information. If they don't go through with it this time, we are not likely to entertain them in the future," adds the source.
Malaysia has tended to buy military equipment from Russia and Europe. This is partly because the country's prime minister for nearly 23 years was Mahathir Mohamad, a staunch critic of US foreign policy.
But Mahathir left politics in 2003, and the current prime minister, Najib Razak, is seen to be much more open to the USA. His government, for example, has been trying to reach a free trade agreement with the Americans.
President Barack Obama has also been making a concerted effort to engage Malaysia and other Muslim nations. But despite the USA's overtures, the Europeans and Russians may continue their strong track record. Russia in particular has close political ties. Najib's father Abdul Razak was Malaysia's prime minister in the 1970s, and during his time in office, Russian president Vladimir Putin in 2003 visited Malaysia and that year signed a deal to sell 18 Su-30MKM fighters. All of these have since been delivered.
Najib was Malaysia's defence minister at the time and helped negotiate the Sukhoi deal. As for the current competition, Russia's defence export agency Rosoboronexport has always said publicly it will offer the Su-30.
Malaysia is seeking enough fighters for one to two squadrons. If it is two squadrons, this would bring the total to 36-40 fighter aircraft. As well as the Su-30, other fighters Malaysia is considering include the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, Lockheed Martin F-16 and Saab Gripen.
Malaysia already has eight F/A-18Ds, which puts Boeing in a strong position. It could be argued that Malaysia needs to phase out its older fighters, such as its Northrop F-5s, and simplify its fleet, with the costs involved in maintaining the aircraft also a major consideration.
Malaysia's defence minister Ahmad Zahid publicly criticised the air force's RSK MiG-29s last year for being too expensive to maintain and vowed to retire them by the end of 2010. But following some political lobbying, the minister decided to delay phasing them out.
Six MiG-29s have already been retired but Ahmad's decision means the other 10 aircraft will continue to be maintained, by Aerospace Technology System in Malaysia for several years. "The decision [to retain the MiG-29s] was based on the capability of the aircraft in executing the tasks given," says Ahmad.
"We are aware that some of our equipment has dropped in value," he says, referring to the fact that if Malaysia tried to sell the aircraft, it would have to be at a deep discount.
Malaysia has also issued an RFI for two AEW aircraft. An aircraft equipped with Saab Microwave Systems' Erieye radar and the Northrop Grumman E-2 Hawkeye are likely to be the main contenders, with other possibilities including the Embraer ERJ-145 AEW aircraft. There is also the E-2D, but Northrop is unlikely to offer this as it is still in development and, when it enters service, it will be with the US Navy.
Malaysia has been relying on Beechcraft King Air aircraft, one of which has been upgraded with Thales radar, with a second to be updated soon. But the King Air's capability pales in comparison to neighbouring Singapore's Israeli-modified Gulfstream G550s installed with airborne early warning and control systems from Elta Systems.
Even though Malaysia has had several procurement false starts, it has concluded some major purchases in recent years. In 2006 it ordered eight Alenia Aermacchi MB-339CMs, the last of which was delivered in December 2009. These aircraft are used to train pilots destined for Malaysia's Sukhoi fleet. The MB-339CMs replaced 13 MB-339AMs, the last of which was retired in October 2009.
Malaysia also ordered four A400Ms in 2005 and is now the only country outside Europe to order the military transport.
The next acquisition likely this year is for military utility helicopters. Malaysia wants to replace its 20 Sikorsky S-61 Nuri helicopters, the first of which it received in 1968. Kuala Lumpur chose the Eurocopter EC725 in 2007 after also evaluating the AgustaWestland AW101, Mil Mi-17 and Sikorsky S-92. However, the deal was called off after criticism from opposition political parties.
The opposition argued in parliament that Malaysia had overpaid for the helicopters and questioned the process by which the EC725 was selected, but Eurocopter remains the frontrunner for this procurement. The initial order is likely to be for 12 aircraft and follow-on purchases could increase this to 48.
Maritime patrol aircraft are another possible procurement this year to replace the four Super King Airs the air force received in 1994. Malaysian air force officials have been negotiating with Indonesia's state-owned aircraft-maker Dirgantara Indonesia for the purchase of four Indonesian Aerospace CN-235s. Industry sources say the two sides hope to sign a letter of intent at Defence Services Asia in Kuala Lumpur on 19-22 April.
The service has been considering other aircraft types for maritime patrol, such as Fokker 50s and the Alenia Aeronautica ATR 42MP. But the air force already operates CN-235 transports, so Indonesia's offering would provide commonality.
Defence suppliers have good reason to be sceptical, especially given ongoing concerns about the availability of funds. The time, effort and money involved in pitching for such contracts can be considerable, says one defence supplier. "That money has to come from somewhere," he says. |
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