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Penerima Vaksin Alami Kesan Sampingan Serius Boleh Dapat Pampasan - KJ
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Orkuitor replied at 21-2-2021 01:17 AM
Yes, cara lama dlm bidang perubatan dah terbukti selamat dan stabil.
Cara pfizer tu mmg agak ke ...
Technology perubatan sentiasa akan upgrade... Seperti ubat ubatan... Ko tidak mahu complain pula... Contoh aku bagi... Rawatan cancer with new technology for cancer tidak perlu lagi ambil chemo... Siapa pernah ambil chemo tahu azab bagaimana.. Thats y technology perlu improve... Technology perubatan sedang improve ko saja yang tidak sedar... Bising issue vaccine sebab tidak mahu?... Against technology?...akan sentiasa ada excuses... |
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Kita kat abad 21, kenapa nak stick pada conventional method yang high risk untuk hasilkan vaccine kalau ada method yang lebih selamat? Tahu tak conventional method ni still ada chance untuk dead virus hidup balik atau bermutasi dalam badan? Sebab tu ada forumer cakap kalau cepat approve patut risau.
Tak faham korang ni.
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future3006 replied at 21-2-2021 05:16 PM
mRNA takde effect pada DNA. yang ada effect pada DNA tu virus.
Good luck utk u pi cuba pfizer, is a no no to me, Vaksin china lebih menyakinkan |
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Dwdrum replied at 21-2-2021 05:24 PM
Technology perubatan sentiasa akan upgrade... Seperti ubat ubatan... Ko tidak mahu complain pula.. ...
Takpe, good luck to u to take pfizer, not for me |
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stingerxmas replied at 21-2-2021 04:40 PM
Satu kes di negara kau....pagi kena jab..malam cardiac arrest....tiada kaitan, kata the medical ...
Aku rasa apek tu tak truthful masa gi amik vaccine. Tak declare sakit apa. Bukan semua org tua rajin buat medical check up. |
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Orkuitor replied at 21-2-2021 01:27 AM
Takpe, good luck to u to take pfizer, not for me
Aku cuma betul kan fact itu saja... Your choice tiada paksaan ... |
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I'm very glad you're not rejecting vaccine :0 Ambil je mana2 dirasakan meyakinkan. I mean, kalau KKM pun tak yakin dengan vaccine China, diorang pun takkan allow CRM untuk run clinical test dengan vaccine diorang. |
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Idok nyer aku.. Bagi sejuta pun idok aku suntik.. Aku bukan anti vaksin tp yg aku rasa libang libor lagi. |
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future3006 replied at 21-2-2021 05:05 PM
Ya secara teorinya orang yang pernah dapat COVID sepatutnya dah imun. Sebab tu awal2 dulu ada oran ...
Time kasih atas penjelasan. So blh kata org yg kena covid n sembuh ni bertuah la sbb x yah bimbang nak cucuk vaksin sbb badan dh ada imunity. Ibarat cam gamble plak nak cucuk vaksin ke nak kena covid...dua2 ada risiko yg sgt rendah? Satu tu ada 95%, satu lagi ada 97%..dua2 kes nak dptkan immunity..tapi pilihan ini utk org yg betul2 sihat je.. |
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future3006 replied at 21-2-2021 05:31 PM
I'm very glad you're not rejecting vaccine :0 Ambil je mana2 dirasakan meyakinkan. I mean, kalau K ...
Negara2 lain termasuk eropah dah terima vaksin china. Malaysia jer yg lambat.
No to pfizer yg byk kes terjadi...tak yakin. Aku bukan tikus makmal utk syarikat amerika |
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Nak tgk live kj dan jemaah menteri para sultan dan agong anak beranak suntik vaksin dulu |
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Edited by Dwdrum at 21-2-2021 01:53 AM
Orkuitor replied at 21-2-2021 01:33 AM
Negara2 lain termasuk eropah dah terima vaksin china. Malaysia jer yg lambat.
No to pfizer yg b ...
Bagaimana tahu?... China vaccine only provided data 1st and 2nd stage data di the lancet... The rest hanya interim data dari overseas... Turkey dan indo... Eficacy tidak same 1..90% + and 2nd 60% +...
Siapa yang jadi tikus makmal sebenar nya? |
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Why were US media silent on Pfizer vaccine deaths?: Global Times editorial
By Global Times
Published: Jan 15, 2021 08:00 PM
An illustration shows vials of a COVID-19 vaccine and syringes with the logos of US pharmaceutical company Pfizer and German partner BioNTech. Photo: AFP
Twenty-three elderly Norwegian people died after receiving Pfizer vaccines. Thirteen of them have been assessed and common side effects may have contributed to severe reactions in them, according to the Norwegian Medicines Agency.
Norway is a small Northern European country and only about 25,000 people have been vaccinated with Pfizer vaccines. Twenty-three deaths are a large number. But surprisingly, mainstream English-language media did not report the incident immediately, as if they had already reached a consensus. Major US and UK media were obviously downplaying their deaths.
In contrast, those major Western media will immediately hype any unfavorable information about Chinese vaccines and try to amplify their impact on public psychology. For example, the data of China's Sinovac vaccine was lower than expected in Brazil, and it was reported everywhere in Western media. The death of a Brazilian volunteer who participated in the trials also became a major event in Western media. But it was later proven that the death had nothing to do with the vaccination, and Western media lost their interest.
The COVID-19 vaccine is serious scientific issue. The current pandemic situation is extremely critical. It is the fundamental interests of all mankind to have more vaccines to fight COVID-19. However, some mainstream US and British media are taking the lead in putting geopolitical labels on vaccines. They are meddling in political stances with the scientific attitude toward vaccines, using their propaganda to promote Pfizer vaccines and smearing Chinese vaccines.
In fact, the research and development of all COVID-19 vaccines is relatively hasty. They should have gone through more sample tests and longer clinical verification before being fully introduced to the market. But time does not wait, and the pandemic does not wait. The vaccines have been promoted to the front line of the COVID-19 fight with a much faster speed.
If there needs to be some comparison, then China's inactivated vaccine definitely has more solid foundation in safety than Pfizer's mRNA vaccine. The inactivated vaccine technology has been very mature and has undergone decades of clinical testing. But it is the first time that the mRNA technology was applied to the vaccine. This large-scale promotion of Pfizer's vaccine is a continuous process of large-scale testing on human beings.
We believe the US and some Western countries do not have better choices now. Mass vaccination of Pfizer is a must. Even if there are risks, these countries would rather bear them. As long as they can save the lives of most people, they would accept the pros and cons. Western mainstream media turned a blind eye to the death of the 23 people, which can be regarded as a part of their acceptance of the "big picture."
Western media's crude double standards on vaccines and their unhealthy mindset show that the US and UK mainstream media's mentality toward China has gone highly geopolitical. Double standards have become political correctness for them. They are no longer objective in terms of competition with China. Attacking China is their desperate goal.
In terms of the COVID-19 vaccines, Chinese society and the Chinese government have regarded science and objectivity as priorities. In a practical and realistic manner, China has squarely faced the reality that Chinese vaccines lacked sufficient data. Chinese COVID-19 vaccines have been put on the market but are conditional. Vaccination priority will be given to high-exposure populations between 18 and 59 years old, not the elderly. No senior Chinese official has come out to openly endorse Chinese vaccines. Most praises about China's vaccines are from abroad. Many leaders of developing countries have taken the lead in injecting Chinese vaccines based on their countries' data of Phase III trials.
However, the Pfizer vaccine has been strongly promoted by the US administration and capital. Their potential risk has been deliberately downplayed by Western public opinion. And public opinion has created an impression that Pfizer's mRNA vaccine, which is being used for the first time, is safer than the Chinese vaccine.
Regrettably, Washington has promoted China-US confrontation and the US and its major allies have initiated their ideological frenzy. Is there any justice? They believe it is right to suppress China and wrong to be fair to China. Such an attitude has extended to serious scientific and humanitarian fields which should have been far away from politics.
Chinese people need to face such increasingly harsh ideological confrontation whether we are willing to or not. We must defend China's national interests and support our own country in important competition. To weaken China's competitiveness, the US and its allies' public opinions have completely disregarded ethics. Their attitude toward China is nothing but geopolitical logic. We will not cringe from their attacks. |
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Dwdrum replied at 21-2-2021 05:51 PM
Bagaimana tahu?... China vaccine only provided data 1st and 2nd stage data di the lancet... The re ...
As i said, good luck and make sure you only take pfizer.
Is a no no to me to take pfizer. All the best |
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Sebenarnya untung yang telah terkena covid..... Akak seperti berharap pula mahu terkena kovid |
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Mereka pun xmampu beri jaminan bahawa vaksin corona tu selamat.
Mana ada golongan yg sudah lama divaksin corona untuk kita jadikan semangat nak disuntik vaksin coorna ni
semua ini hanyalah kepala butohhhhhhh saja...xlebih dari itu. |
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Orkuitor replied at 21-2-2021 01:53 AM
As i said, good luck and make sure you only take pfizer.
Is a no no to me to take pfizer. All t ...
Good untuk kamu..
Jika benci pun jangan main tembak... Better bagi imformation yang betul.... |
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Dwdrum replied at 21-2-2021 06:04 PM
Good untuk kamu..
Jika benci pun jangan main tembak... Better bagi imformation yang betul....
Saya tak benci mana2 vaksin pun, tapi mmg pun byk rekod negatif tentanflg pfizer, aku tak yakin |
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Mungkin boleh bagi link berita/kajian kes kesan pengambilan vaksin Pfizer ni. I'd like to study too
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Orkuitor replied at 21-2-2021 02:35 AM
Saya tak benci mana2 vaksin pun, tapi mmg pun byk rekod negatif tentanflg pfizer, aku tak yakin
Sebab pfizer bagi data... China vaccine bagi data?.... News yang u tepek dari global times.. Depa juga mahu promote china vaccine too... apabila media focus kepada pfizer vaccine.... if u boleh kagum without data dari nationalist china newspaper.... Its ok... I ada cara untuk sendiri menilai vaccine... I tidak perlu sentiment kan issue.... i percaya dari data dan evidence... |
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