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Post Last Edit by glider at 28-3-2010 11:41
Ellooooo lori,
Aku tak pernah jual SG tau!!
Jangan nak MENUDUH2 aku sebagai penjual SG plak...
Aku beli SG pakai duit aku sendiri sebab aku nak be ...
glider Post at 28-3-2010 11:36
yup...cimut pown rasa betol yang glider gebang tu.... bukan niat dia nak menyeksa binatang tu... kalu dia nak seksa binatang tu wat per la berabis beratus2 ringgit tok sg yang senonet tu... 
lori,,,,, if u rasa u je yang betol... beter u masuk wwf la... wat keje amal... kalau dapat tau c glider nie nak seksa sg dia g call prihilitan ... suruh saman c glider tu.... 
odoyai/... cimut yang x der sg nie pown terasa something jerk ngan pemikiran kolot kowang nie... kita mukan nak cari gaduh ... 
tujuan kita berporem nie ialah bertukar pendapat sambel memberi nasihat... mukan nak cari salah orang bro....
tapi hones la... cimut x suka cara lori tu... .. kalu bersikap macam nie terus ... ramai yang x mo masuk porem nie...
cimut tau la sg tu haiwan xzotik... adesh...dah panjang lebo lak aq membebel nie... 
pepehal... this is my last masuk umah nie la k... 
glider... if u rasa tindakan u tu betul... buat jerk... kita leh carik some peminat sg lain  yang mukan giler koser masam  beliau nie untuk bertukar2 pendapat.....
 x ferlu minta nasihat dari owang yang terlalu pandai ngan sg nie... kita yang makan hati nanti...  |
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yup...cimut pown rasa betol yang glider gebang tu.... bukan niat dia nak menyeksa binatang tu... kalu dia nak seksa binatang tu wat per la berabis beratus2 ringgit tok sg yang senonet tu...
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selimutpurple Post at 28-3-2010 23:13
En. Selimut Purple. Kalau nak bela binatang, kene la responsible. Sebab kita care pasal nyawa makhluk tuhan. So kalau dah silap, belajar dari kesilapan. Bukannya pertahankan ideologi yang salah.
Sepatutnya sebelum bela lagi dah buat research. Dah patut tau proper diet, cara penjagaan, proper cage and whatnot. Especially regarding breeding. Kene tahu betul-betul. Jangan just assume dia macam hamster. Sugar Glider ni bukan dalam family of rodents pun.
Ini tidak. Disuruhnya masuk WWF pulak. Aduhai... Sape yang berpemikiran kolot sekarang ni?
I have to admit, cara lori agak kasar. But then again, the truth hurts. |
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kenapa la setiap theard pasal SG ni ader jer nak gaduh2 nie,..... |
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yup...cimut pown rasa betol yang glider gebang tu.... bukan niat dia nak menyeksa binatang tu... kalu dia nak seksa binatang tu wat per la berabis beratus2 ringgit tok sg yang senonet tu...
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selimutpurple Post at 28-3-2010 23:13
Ntah la Selimutpurple, aku dah maleh dah nak layan diorang nih...
Yg pasti aku dah berabis ratus ringgit beli SG & makanan dia yg mahal2 drp Petshack tuh....
Sebab apa aku beli food/diet tu w/p mahal? Sebab aku banyak gak baca & buat research pasal SG sebelum & setelah aku beli SG... so ade mamat yg duk asik syorkan beli pellet & mcm2 foods & diet drp Petshack... so atas dasar sayang & take care aku pd SG aku, maka aku beli la juga... tp yg pasti SG aku tak minat langsung makanan yg mahal2 drp Petshack yg aku beli tuh...
Aku pun tak akan masuk lagi thread nih lepas nih kerana thread ni penuh dgn orang2 yg pelik lagi memelikkan...
Diorang lebih prefer cari lawan daripada kawan hanya kerana SG!! |
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417# aqie
aah, setuju jgk dgn aqie.. asl SG je gaduh,asl gaduh je sg,sian sg2 kat malaysia ni, tak tau lak pasal dorg boleh timbul perbalahanpulak..haha...aku tgk group pet lain ok je, happy..
rasanya kena buat post mortem ni ,check kat mana salahnyani..
btw, bukan nak menangkan tp fact.. aku rasa si glider niskrg tgh mintak advice.. jangan la blame dia tiba2.. sian SG si glider tu,last2 macam tu gak jadinya..kalo nak tegur mcm mana pon,kalau yg islam tu, adacaranya nak menegur kan..jangan diselubungi dgn emosi.. aku rasa lebih kesiandgn SG dia ,tak kisah la mcm mana pon background dia...selagi dia makhluk allahcipta jugak..
skrg ni pon,aku rasa takde faedah apa2 pun dapat dariperbalahan ni.. kalah jadi abu, menang jadi arang.. so why waste ur time nakberbalah2 kan?peace! |
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kenapa la setiap theard pasal SG ni ader jer nak gaduh2 nie,.....
aqie Post at 29-3-2010 13:18
Iye ke Aqie? Kalau iye, aku tak heran sebab memang ade ramai org yg pelik & memelikkan nih...
Tak per la Aqie, aku pon dah malas nak layan mereka nih, tak berfaedah langsung malah menyakitkan hati jer...
Macam yg aku cakap di atas tuh, mereka ni lebih suka mencari lawan drp mencari kawan... Kalau mereka berkawan pon ialah dengan kawan2 mereka yg pelik tuh... Ntah datang drp jungle mana pon aku tak pasti ...
So utk Aqie, this is my last posting here....
Kalau ade apa2 citer baik, kite leh sembang dlm thread lain spt thread budgie & ikan laga di mana di dalam tu orangnya best2... w/p mereka tu ada banyak ilmu, pengetahuan & pengalaman, mereka bersedia berkongsi tanpa rasa berlagak & bongkak... dan mereka akan bagi advise dgn baik & berhemah ..... |
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417# aqie
aah, setuju jgk dgn aqie.. asl SG je gaduh,asl gaduh je sg,sian sg2 kat malaysia ni, tak tau lak pasal dorg boleh timbul perbalahanpulak..haha...aku tgk group pet lain ok je, happy..
ras ...
mecha Post at 29-3-2010 19:46
TQ Mecha coz memahami...
Anyway saya dah tak ingin nak masuk thread ni lagi, langsung dah tak berminat, bahkan menjelikkan... & saya akan BOIKOT this thread FOREVER!...
So Mecha, apa pon kite leh sembang dalam thread lain yer... see u... |
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Macam kelakar lak. bila org disagree dengan pendapat, start name calling. Pelik tapi memelikkan lah, datang dari junggle lah, Macam budak tadika. |
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aku xfaham knp geng2 ne kat mn2 forum sk cr gdh... korg ne semua ada kelulusan utk bidang haiwan kew... ataupun doktor haiwan. org mintak tlg ko hentam. korg sepatutnya bantu dia, tlg settlekan mslh dia. ne tak, hbs ko panggil geng2 hentam dia. apew org lain buat salah. korg bt semua btl. mcm kat forum lowyat, ada brother tu bg mknn kucing, ko ckp mcm2, unethical lah. tp aku baca thread bonai page 3, bonai ada mention blh bg mknn kucing sbg treat bkn mknn utama. klu geng2 korang buat semua betul n bagus. org lain kena ikut telunjuk korg.
lagi satu, aku bukan xth sedikit sebyk pasal geng korg. klu xsilap aku, sugar glider lori prnh mati sebab terhempap dgn bdn dia. xdew pun sapew hentam dia sbb dia geng korg. cuba org lain, hbs ko hentam cukup2. lagi satu, xsalah aku 1st sugar glider eric pun prnh mati sbb tersalah bg makan mknn bertoxic. xdew pun org kecoh2 hentam dia. sebab apew, dia geng korg kan.
klu nak tegur org tu, tegurlah cara berkhemah, walaupun dia salah. betulkan dgn cr yg baik. kita bela sg ne nak cari ramai kawan n bertukar2 pendapat. bukan nak cari lawan atau musuh. tak elok org luar yg baca forum ne. mcm aqie ckp, asal forum sg jew gaduh, asal gaduh jew forum sg. asyik2 geng ne jew. klu lah korg bersikap terus mcm ne, org nak beli brg kat petshack pun fkr 10x, sbb tgk geng2 petshack mcm ne.
jadi lah mcm group pet2 lain, xde gaduh n cari pasal. kita buat group nak kumpul ramai kawan. klu kawan kita salah, kita tegur cr yg baik n bantu dia. xkisah lah dia dr group mana pun. |
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setiap kali aku join thread sg jer mesti ader yg gaduh2.....
tapi aku tau saper yg dok uat hal..
glider. jom sembg tempat lain ok?hehehe we are freinds ok..hehe |
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aku tak pernah marah sapa2. aku tegur cam biasa je. bende tak elok, aku kate jangan. takde lak kuar maki hamun pun. itu baru betul marah. ko pergi quote balik apa yang korang cakap aku marah? takde pun.
tapi kalo tegur pun sensitip ngalah pompuan, tak boley nak buat ape la. |
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Lepas 1 1 saya masuk thread sg nie....mesti ader bertengkar punya........sebbnya pun sama jer....aper nak jadi nie?lain orng lain pendapat,kita just kongsi jer pendapat semua orng bukan jer nak gaduh2 pasal pendapat kita bagus sangt.....walaupun aku dah tak bela sg nie,tapi aku stil berminat lagi aper yg aku tau pasal sg ni aku tolong...ini nak bertengkar jer....
dlm forum lain2 pun kalo pasal sg nie mest jer ader yg nak gaduh.....ish2 udah la tu....elokla ber maaf maafan.... |
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kena paham jugak maksud tegur dgn condemn, jangan main sergah org kau ckp tegur..
cuba pikir mcm ni la, kalaulah org yg ckp tu mcm si glider tu ckp, org yg lebih tua , sng kata org yg kita hormat lah.mcm atuk ke,ayah ke, or cikgu..cuba kau 'tegur' skit mcm tu dgn dorg, sampai tak hati kau? kalau aku la kan, aku tak sampai hati.mcm accuse tu bunyinya..
sng kata ,apa2 tindakan yg kita nak buat, fikir kita in their shoes.. apa yg kita tak suka org wat kat kita, kita jgn buat kan org..ni kalau ckp kat mat rempit, mat rempit pon baran beb..
dekat sini ,ada satu petikan dari luqman hakim sbg peringatan even utk diri aku sndr..
"Orang akan tetap menjadi ahli ilmu yang sejati selama dia masih menuntut. Tetapi apabila pada suatu ketika dia berkata "Aku sudah pintar", maka sesungguhnya dia sudah menjadi bodoh dengan sendirinya."
pengajaran yg aku boleh terapkan dari petikan ni, walau mcm mana pandai sekali pun kita,jgn kita ingat dah cukup ilmu di dada, jgn kita meninggi diri, sbb pengetahuan org lain kita tak tau.. so, baik ikut resmi padi, makin berisi, makin tunduk.. lagi byk manfaat kita dpt kalau guna prinsip bertukar2 pendapat ..so hope sume boleh muhasabah diri termasuk aku lah skali ni walaupun thread ni pasal sugar glider.. |
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Lawak jugak. Korang cakap aku sergah, tapi takde pun boleh tunjuk balik part mana yg sergah tu. Bagitau post nomber berapa. Meh aku tengok sikit part mana yang aku sergah.
Payah tol cakap dengan bebudak yg overly sensitip ni. |
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Dah la. Thread ni dah jadi thread makhluk2 emo lak... Meh aku post the new GliderVet newsletter. Untuk owner glider, elok gi subcribe newsletter ni. Banyak informative posts.
GliderVet #97: Glider Sitter during Vacation; Corn is a Four
Letter Word; Mealworms: Too much of a good thing?
You can read this issue as a web page here:
http://www.sugar-gliders.com/glidervet-97.htm
This Month in the GliderVet Newsletter
==========================
Greetings Glider Groupies, Glider Newbies and Glider
Wanna-bes! Welcome to the March 2010 edition of the GliderVet News.
Sorry we're a bit late getting the newsletter to you this month,
but boy oh boy, we've had a lot going on.
Of course, we each had a turn at the flu bug this month, but that
didn't slow us down. What did slow us down was our color glider
expansion this month. We've just added leucistic and platinum
gliders to our color breeding program and they already have joeys
out of pouch!
So if our color choices have been too limited for you in the past,
check us out now! We also have a white tipped baby available this
month, so if you've been waiting for this elusive color to show up,
just contact me:
[email protected]
She will be ready to go to a new home in about two weeks!
If you don't know about sugar glider colors, see here:
<http://www.sugar-gliders.com/sugar-glider-colors.htm>
We also attended the Global Pet Expo, a giant show with over 800
suppliers to the pet industry. These events target mostly the cat
and dog business, since there are so many of these pets out there.
And while I love dogs, I'm glad to be home because if I have to
look at one more uniquely designed pooper scooper, I think I may
just have to scream! But there were also a lot of small animal
vendors at the show and we did find a good number of new products
we will be bringing in for testing and review. We'll let you know
how some of these turn out in the upcoming months!
Now with all this stuff happening and this month quickly coming to
a close, we asked our Chief Executive Glider if he could pull the
weight this month. Much to my delight, Arnold has agreed to write
the whole newsletter, so read on as Arnold covers his favorite topic:
FOOD! But first a favorite of most of us two leggers: Vacation!
Please remember that this newsletter is intended to express the
wishes of the whole sugar glider community. Each and every article
published in this newsletter is a result of someone, just like
you, taking the time to write us with thoughts, ideas, stories,
and questions about our suggie friends.
Send your comments to us here:
mailto:[email protected]
If you ever want to find earlier issues of GliderVet News, you can
access our archives by clicking the following link:
<http://www.sugar-gliders.com/sugar-glider-newsletters.htm>
Click here to see fun pics of gliders sent in by our customers:
<http://www.sugar-gliders.com/sugar-glider-photos.htm>
If you are looking for sugar glider tested and approved products,
click below to check out our ever expanding store:
http://www.sugar-gliders.com/store.htm
Are you new to sugar gliders or just in the early stages of
trying to decide if one is right for you? Questions you can ask
yourself to help make this very important and long term decision
are available. To view those questions, click here:
http://www.sugar-gliders.com/sugar-glider.htm
A very confusing area for those considering glider ownership (and
for some current owners too!) is diet. Click here to see what our
vets have to say about diet and nutrition for gliders:
<http://www.sugar-gliders.com/sugar-glider-diet.htm>
And if you decide that a sugar glider (or two!) would become future
members of your household, then you might want to check out Arnold's
great deals on starter kits, with or without cages, right here:
<http://www.sugar-gliders.com/starter-kits-list.htm>
Glider Sitter during Vacation
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by Arnold
Hi SunCoast,
I have 2 gliders and I'm going on a 2 week trip in May. I have
someone who will come in once each day to care for them, but I
would rather leave them with a family that has gliders. Can you
supply me with names or email addresses of owners in my area? We're
going out of the country so I can't take them along like we do when
traveling by car.
Thanks,
S.M.
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Hi S.M.,
So sorry, but me can't really do that. Our customers and contacts
are protected by our privacy policy. Usually the best way to make
contacts like that is on the message boards like:
Glider Central
http://www.glidercentral.net/
Glider Gossip
http://www.sugarglider.com/glidergossip/
But methinks having someone come to your home is fine. Yer 2
gliders have each other to meet their social needs, so they don't
really need people around. Strange people are not going to fill
any void really, only their "regular" people. Stick with the house
sitter and they should be fine. The only time me might hear of real
problems (other than something irresponsible by the house sitter)
is with single kept gliders (we can go a bit beserk when left alone).
Enjoy your trip!
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428# emino
ATS
(Arnold T. Schwarzenglider for you new folks)
<http://www.sugar-gliders.com/glidervet-6.htm#ATS>
Corn is a Four Letter Word
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By Arnold
Dear Arnold,
I'm confused about certain foods and whether they are OK to feed
sugar gliders. In particular, I see people talking about feeding
them corn, and I see that some of the manufactured glider foods
use corn in them - even as the main ingredient!
Also, a vet said this:
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For example, carrots and corn are both vegetables, but they
have significantly different food and vitamin values when
consumed. Carrots are rich in vitamin A, which is very good for
your sugar glider when offered in the right form and amounts. Corn,
on the other hand, has a high phosphorus ratio and too much of this
vegetable can actually elevate disease opportunity in your pet.
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But I am thinking, actually, corn is NOT a vegetable, it's a grain,
which raised a question in my mind about this vet's research
/ knowledge. I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just making an
observation, while looking for definitive answers for my darling
little fuzzies on what all is OK to feed them. Please help!
B
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Dear B,
Yers is one of me favorite emails all month! Me don't think youz
a jerk! Me luvs ya for bringing up such a fun topic.First off,
yer right! Corn is a grain!
But the vet is right too! Corn is a veggie!
And now me says corn is really a fruit .. Did you know that?
Me knows me corn facts and actually corn has the qualities of a
vegetable and a grain and a fruit ...
Since most people call corn a vegetable (and its sold in the veggie
section of the grocery store), we're fine with calling it such
around here ... But we also like all the facts ... Like youz do!
And after all this and what is it, please don't feed corn. Me gets
sad to say this cuz me tasted the niblets and fell in love, but
its so not good for us! For more on the whole phosphorus issue
with sugar gliders (actually, it's the Calcium to Phosphorus Ratio
that's critical to understand), see this newsletter article:
Calcium to Phosphorus Ratios in Food
http://www.sugar-gliders.com/glidervet-60.htm
and for more on what you probably should not feed your gliders,
see this article:
What NOT to Feed
http://www.sugar-gliders.com/glidervet-83.htm
And B, you totally rock!
Next month, we'll tackle tomatoes! Fruit or vegetable?
Arnold
The corniest sugar glider in the world
Mealworms: Too much of a good thing?
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by Arnold
Dear Arnold,
I'm really confused about the diet. Some people talk about feeding
their sugar gliders mealworms and some websites say never to feed
bugs. Some people feed bugs every day and some people say you
shouldn't do it every day. It seems like the more I read online,
and even in books, the more confused I get!
Can you help me figure this out?
Jerome
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Dear Jerome,
Yer not alone! Me newsletter has been going strong for 97 months
now, see link below, you can search the archives:
<http://www.sugar-gliders.com/sugar-glider-newsletters.htm>
'cuz lots of peeps are confused about glider care stuff and you
came to the right place to get it all cleared up.
Now we suggies luv us a good mealie worm! After all, we are
classified insectivore / gummivore, which means we eat insects in
the wild (when they are plentiful) and we eat tree gum, sap and
manna when the bugs are not around. So ya see, given the choice,
bugs is what we want to eat first.
So, doesn't it make sense this is what you should feed us too?
Ya really can't ask us to be 'sumptin different than what the Mother
of all Nature made us, right?
But while we suggies luv us a good mealie worm, some of us are
really health conscious, like me! So lemme make this simple for you.
Mealworms to suggies are like red meat to hoomans! In 'nuther
words, maybe not something you should eat twice a day, every day
'cuz it's a bit high in fat, but once or twice a week should be OK.
There are other proteins besides mealie worms that are yummy to us
and good fer us too! My suggested weekly diet, see here:
<http://www.sugar-gliders.com/glidervet-45.htm#menu>
consists of other proteins like crickets, boiled chicken, boiled
eggs and yogurt. Me likes em all! Moderation is our motto!
Too much of a good thing is no longer a good thing!
Yours in Food,
Arnold
'Til next time, in good health for you and your gliders, we sign
off in appreciation of all of you who share great glider adventures
with all in the community!
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on our sugar glider friends!
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Soli to interrupt.
To 'mealworms', i don't know who are you, but jus to clarify, my first glider was died on 2004/2005, and the causes of death is not because of ingesting poisonous food. I hope you get your information from reliable source in future before mentioning my name in public forum. thanks alot. |
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sudah kembali tenang.. ini yang ku mahukan.. |
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tuan n baby suggies tu sama2 cute huhu |
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