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Pesawat MH17 Terhempas V3 : Ketua pemberontak sudah hubungi Malaysia #1
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axl_bach posted on 19-7-2014 04:25 PM
ic, now the game dah bertukar....bukan lagi salah route tp salah org yg arrange the route dan yg app ...
Ko n @tinker_bell dari bidang yang sama
Patut lebih memahami
Ni semua masalah sikap
Dah lama aku abaikan |
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Innrukia posted on 19-7-2014 04:29 PM 
aku harap mod bleh buat satu IGNORE button utk ignore forumer & komen2 depa
so takde la irri ...
ala2 kat porem CG nun........
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alinone78 posted on 19-7-2014 04:29 PM
Kalau dalam bidang tugas aku
Aku tegur
Minit sikit dalam fail peribadi
aku ala2 diplomatik skit ler...
Aku xnak la terjebak dgn kondem si akak loceng ni...dh v3 isu len plak dia argue...
aku phm sentimen semak mata forumer2 len....
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alinone78 posted on 19-7-2014 04:31 PM
Ko n @tinker_bell dari bidang yang sama
Patut lebih memahami
mana ada bidang yg sama..totally berbeza..pharmacy dgn medic jabatan lain2 ye..scope kerja mmg lain..tak tahu knp ramai org ingat pharmacy sama dgn medic..
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alinone78 posted on 19-7-2014 04:31 PM
Ko n @tinker_bell dari bidang yang sama
Patut lebih memahami
dia pun deraiber ambulance gak ker??heheheheh
xder laa once aku dpt tau dia OCD aku surrender, dia xkan ubah opinion dia laaa kalo dah sah OCD......wat penat layan jer.....
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mane rumah V1 ye? aku baru nak start baca laaa  Tolong bagi link please...dah cari tak jumpa pon  |
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ok, enough about tingtong bell, moh sambung balik bincang pasal MH17....koram berbincang laa aku SR, kalo ada yg aku musykil aku menceceh...... |
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axl_bach posted on 19-7-2014 04:35 PM
dia pun deraiber ambulance gak ker??heheheheh
xder laa once aku dpt tau dia OCD aku surrender, ...
OCD tu apa??? 
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tinker_bell posted on 19-7-2014 04:05 PM
aku tak tahu lah kn..tp dlm bidang aku..virus2 baru sentiasa wujud..drugs2 design baru kena sentia ...
So mcmnilah apa kata aku relate ubat dgn route..example route approved by ICAO so msia airlines biasa siapa yg buat flight plan mmg ada system..so mereka akan buat plan yg fuel saving n selamat for passenger..bende skrg semua delegate..so route mmg bukan salah mas 100% ..mcm antiboitic kena mkan betul..phamrmacist suruh habiskan but patient x habiskan pasal terlupa atau x peka n tak tau pasal ubat then died..so nk salahkan pharmacist? Patient?manufacturers?.. Kat sini nak salahkan spa?patient obiously x tau pasal antibodies ni..kannn |
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ok2 dah jumpa. Hampeh btol |
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wana89 posted on 19-7-2014 04:37 PM
OCD tu apa???
satu masalah psychiatric iaitu obsessive compulsive disorder |
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wana89 posted on 19-7-2014 04:37 PM
OCD tu apa???
obsessive compulsive disorder
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wana89 posted on 19-7-2014 04:39 PM
kekadang wana rasa kaka ni baik pun ada...
dalam realiti, semua orang pikir pasal duit..
kalo x, ...
Org2 kat atas nun punya kepala mesti duit dulu. Kita suka tak suka kena ikut ler.
Eh!! Dah melalut pula smp ke duit |
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lazim posted on 19-7-2014 04:02 PM
thread mh370 adam buat hal
thread mh 17 thinker bell plak buat hal.
adam x jenguk langsung pun rumah mh17
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tinker_bell posted on 19-7-2014 04:42 PM
ioll tak OCD la ..ioll jdk cmni sejak pregnant..harap2 lah anak ioll tak OCD..
so u ocd lah kan...?? ocd ni pun ada kaitan dengan keturunan if tak silap saya
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Mcm binatang. Dah 2 hari mayat terbiar di situ.
- Pro-Russian looters pulled Tesco binoculars from British MH17 victim's suitcase - but threw them back because they were broken
- Eyewitness saw pro-Russian forces rifling through John Alder's bags
- Thugs stole Mr Alder's binoculars - but discarded them as they were broken
- Pro-Russian rebels spotted stealing victims' cash, credit cards and jewelry
- Prime Minister David Cameron said the killers must be 'held to account'
- Six British air crash investigators due to fly to Ukraine later today
Looters have robbed the bodies of belongings of victims of the MH17 jet, including fanatical Newcastle United fan John Alder, after the passenger jet was shot down over Ukraine on Thursday.
Some 298 people were aboard the Boeing 777-200 when it was blasted out of the sky by pro-Russian rebel forces.
A freelance journalist at the scene discovered Mr Alder's body outside the village of Grabovo within hours of the disaster and saw that his belongings had been disturbed.
Demjen Doroschenko said: 'I saw John Alder's body and took a picture of a medicine box he had with him. You could see they had been through his things.
'He had a pair of Tesco binoculars with him in a case. They had pulled the binoculars out of the case. But when they say the glass had been broken they threw them back because they weren't any good for them.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2698137/Pro-Russian-looters-pulled-Tesco-binoculars- |
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cik_luna posted on 19-7-2014 04:43 PM
adam x jenguk langsung pun rumah mh17
Adam balik muar ler tu..makan sate sama mee rebus hhahahha..mna adam |
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Sumber : Reuters
Worldwide Legal Claims Could Await Malaysia Airlines after Jet Downed
New York: Malaysia Airlines may need to convince judges from several countries that it was not negligent to send a plane over war-torn eastern Ukraine if the airline hopes to avoid an outsize legal exposure for the downing of Flight MH17, aviation lawyers said. (Rebel Leader Gives Bizarre Account of Malaysia Airlines Plane Crash)
The lawyers told Reuters they expected at least some of the families of the 283 passengers on board the flight to sue Malaysia Airlines for damages above the amount they can already seek under an international agreement. (Barack Obama Reaches out to Global Leaders for Investigation on Malaysia Airlines MH17)
There was no consensus among the lawyers about whether there was a strong case that Malaysia Airlines was negligent. Some lawyers said the carrier could argue that other carriers had used the same airspace many times in the past week. (Malaysia Airlines Crash: Downing of Jet Exposes Defects of Flight Precautions Over Ukraine)
Malaysian Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai in fact stressed this point on Friday. He said the national airline took no undue risk in flying over Ukraine. (Obama Points to Pro-Russia Separatists in Downing of Malaysia Airlines Plane)
The potential lawsuits could be filed in any of several jurisdictions, such as Amsterdam, where the plane took off, Malaysia, where it was supposed to land and where the airline is based, or the home countries of individual passengers.
At least one passenger had American citizenship, US President Barack Obama said on Friday, so his family could attempt to sue Malaysia Airlines in the United States.
Obama said the crash had a global impact with victims from 11 countries across four continents. There were no survivors, and authorities believe a surface-to-air missile downed the flight on its way to Kuala Lumpur.
$174,000 PAYMENT
Under an international agreement known as the Montreal Convention of 1999, an airline cannot escape liability for a passenger death even when an event such as an act of war or terrorism causes a plane to crash.
For each death, a carrier can be liable for up to 113,100 special drawing rights, a reserve asset created by the International Monetary Fund. On Thursday, the day of MH17's downing, the amount was equal to about $174,000, or $49 million for 283 passengers.
But families of passengers may sue for damages above that, and under the Montreal Convention, it is up to a carrier to prove it was not negligent or that a death was the sole fault of a third party such as armed militants. If the lawsuits were successful, the awards in theory would be without limit.
It was not known on Friday whether anyone connected to the passengers had taken steps to sue.
Damages related to the 15 crew members on board would be covered by other legal authorities, such as Malaysian worker-compensation law, said William Angelley, a lawyer in Dallas who specialises in aviation law.
WHO'S TO BLAME?
In April, the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) prohibited US air carriers from operating over much of the Crimean Peninsula after Russia moved to annex the disputed area.
But the majority of carriers continued to fly over an area in eastern Ukraine where pro-Russian rebels are fighting Ukrainian forces, using a route popular with long-distance flights from Europe to southeast Asia.
According to Flightradar24, an online flight-tracking service, 66 other carriers flew hundreds of times in the area where the plane was shot down in the last week. Malaysia flew there 48 times and Singapore Airlines Ltd 75 times. United Air Lines Inc flew through five times.
"Other airlines were flying there. There was no indication that commercial airlines were being targeted. Was it a good idea? No. But I'd argue that that wasn't negligence," said Bruce Ottley, dean of the DePaul University College of Law and co-director of its International Aviation Law Institute.
A handful of airlines like Qantas Airways did alter their flight paths some time ago to avoid Ukrainian air space after fighting flared up in the region.
"An investigation will look at who shot the airline down but also if Malaysia Airlines acted appropriately in continuing to schedule its flights over the area," said Justin Green, a lawyer in New York who has represented families in airline disasters.
"The airline will be completely liable for all damages until they can prove that flying over the war-torn area was not negligent as a matter of law," Green said.
"We've flown this route for many years, it's safe and that's the reason why we are taking this route," Malaysian transport minister Liow told a news conference where reporters repeatedly questioned why the airline chose to fly over a conflict zone.
ARGUMENT ON NEGLIGENCE
The definition of negligence varies among legal jurisdictions. US law looks to what a reasonable person or company would have done under similar circumstances.
The airspace in question around Donetsk, near the crash area, was not closed off at the airplane's altitude. Eurocontrol, the European airspace coordinator, has said that Ukrainian authorities closed the route up to about 32,000 feet. MH17 was flying at 33,000 feet.
A trade group for carriers said its members depended on governments and air traffic control to tell them where to fly.
"It is very similar to driving a car," Tony Tyler, chief executive of the International Air Transport Association, said in a statement on Friday. "If the road is open, you assume that it is safe. If it's closed you find an alternate route."
Aviation lawyers said that unless airspace is closed or air traffic controllers divert a plane, the ultimate decision on a route is made by carriers, not government aviation regulators, so suing regulators would be a long-shot.
DePaul University's Ottley said he had never heard of a suit filed against an aviation regulator over a flight path.
Another long shot could be a suit against the separatists of eastern Ukraine. Even if the militants were sued in US courts, "whether you can process them and serve them (with court papers) might be impossible," New York aviation lawyer Jim Kreindler said.
After the 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, the United States removed sovereign immunity from countries it listed as state sponsors of terrorism. The move allowed families to sue Libya, which in 2003 agreed to pay $2.7 billion.
Neither Ukraine nor Russia is on the terrorism-sponsor list, meaning "there are daunting challenges to that kind of litigation" for the Malaysian Airlines disaster, Green said.
© Thomson Reuters 2014 |
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Post time 19-7-2014 04:31 PM
..ioll jdk cmni sejak pregnant..harap2 lah anak ioll tak OCD..
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