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Sephiroth posted on 1-7-2013 04:25 PM 
by Sam1528
And who are you to determine it so? Are you God? 
Are you that dim witted? Why do one need to take revenge on persons that did no harm to oneself? Biblical Samson tok revenge on a group of people over the wrong doing of a couple of people who blinded him. This is wrong in any sense of morality. Don't need to be God to have such understanding.
So now you're a psychologist?
Again , less than average intelligent argument from you. The said persons never see themselves being a 'messiah' to the people. Ahmadenijad / Saddam Hussein were ex president / dictator of Iran / Iraq. How in the world you claim them to have 'messiah complex'?
Then there is no Holy war. ;)
Since when there exist 'holy war' in Malaysia? Are you taking illegal pharmaceuticals?
So what? It will also spill to Afghanistan (from Pakistan side), Mynamar (from Bangladesh side) and reach China. Basically, the secondary effect of Nuclear explosions in two states will effect most of Asia and turn the World to a nuclear Winter. So a few million will die. So what? It is better for weak-minded people to die instead of wasting time polluting the World. While I'm at it, I probably launch two on Mecca and Madinah.
TQ again. This is evidence of your perverted and twisted mind. Ha ha , talk is cheap. Perhaps you are the type of person who faints when you see blood. No need to talk big when you are just posting as an anonymous person. I believe a brother here requested to meet face to face with you for a debate. You chickened out giving lots of lame excuses. Deep down , you are just a coward.
Translation : I , 'sephiroth' am a 'pariah' .... yes?
Last edited by sam1528 on 2-7-2013 12:08 AM
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by Sam5128
This is wrong in any sense of morality. Don't need to be God to have such understanding.
I ask you again - Are you God? 
How in the world you claim them to have 'messiah complex'?
I ask again - Are you a psychologist?
Since when there exist 'holy war' in Malaysia? Are you taking illegal pharmaceuticals?
Don't be stupid, Pharmaceutical is COMPANY, not medicine. So I'm not taking any company.
Deep down , you are just a coward.
When time comes, I will find you. You will be on your knees begging before I kill you. 
Translation : I , 'sephiroth' am a 'pariah' .... yes?
Up to you, I don't care less. |
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Sephiroth posted on 2-7-2013 10:09 AM
by Sam5128
I ask you again - Are you God?
No I am not God. Do you need to be God to have the understanding of collective punishment? I can understand that collective punishment is in Hinduism but no such thing in Islam.
I ask again - Are you a psychologist?
Do you need to be psychologist to understand what is 'messiah complex'? BTW I am not a psychologist
Don't be stupid, Pharmaceutical is COMPANY, not medicine. So I'm not taking any company.
The noun , 'pharmaceutical' means : a medicinal drug. Where did you learn english?
When time comes, I will find you. You will be on your knees begging before I kill you.
Ha ha , empty threats from a coward. To meet up and have a face to face debate you are already scared. What is there to talk about?
Up to you, I don't care less.
A 'pariah' will not care if she is one. Thats the bottom of the barrel .....
Last edited by sam1528 on 2-7-2013 06:18 PM
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As i have repeated myself, the Ahmadiyas believe and refer themselves as Muslims. Who are you to judge their practices when Sunni themselves are broken into so many branches.
Another example from Malaysia,
"Even though I personally don't agree with Shia teachings and even frequently criticize and debate with them, I cannot accept the approach of the allegedly democratic Malaysian government in denying the people's right to practice their faith."
(Dr. Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin, former Mufti of Perlis, Malaysia, commenting on the Ashura roundup of Shia Muslims, 18 December 2010)" |
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Another news article from Malaysia,
Malaysia's discriminatory policies have come under the spotlight once again as a Shia leader is still waiting his trial about three months after his detention.
Shia leader Kamil Zuhairi Abdul Aziz was arrested in December for what the religious authorities described as 'deviant teaching.'
The Shia leader had to post a bail of USD 650 to be released, according to officials.
Kamil's lawyer Mohd Haidar Mohd Hashim said that this is an unordinary practice because a person has to be charged first before he can be released on bail.
However, the religious authorities told the court that they are yet to wrap up their investigations on Kamil.
Kamil said his trial sends a wrong message to the world indicating that Malaysia is becoming increasingly hardline.
Despite the fact that 40,000 Shia Muslims live in Malaysia, the country has banned the Shia practice in 1996 which is considered unusual in the Muslim world. |
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Sephiroth posted on 3-7-2013 12:48 PM
by Sam1528
Then how do you know what has happened in the story of Samson and whether or not those people were guilty or innocent? You don't know cos you are not God nor been there as a witness. Yet, you cast your guilty judgement upon Samson as guilty of mass-murderer.
Did you bother to read the relevant passage about biblical Samson? Rather do you understand what you read? The question here is that he was into collective punishment , which you are in agreement. This is perverted justice. Similar to your perverted mind.
Then you know shit about those with Messiah Complex.
Ok then , I await your explanation in which you will find all sorts of excuse to run away.
Apparently the same place you have learn how to spell your noun.
1phar·ma·ceu·ti·cal adjective \ˌfär-mə-ˈsü-ti-kəl\
Definition of PHARMACEUTICAL
: of, relating to, or engaged in pharmacy or the manufacture and sale of pharmaceuticals <a pharmaceutical company>
Do you know the difference between a noun and an adjective (in this case for the word pharmaceutical)? If you don't , go back to primary school ... where you belong
Why the heck could I want to "debate" with any Muslims when I choose to kill you (Muslims)?
You mistaken me for someone who waste his/her time. My purpose is clear - to destroy Islam. My enemy is clear - ALL MUSLIMS. WHY the heck could I want to waste my time "debating" with my enemies?
Translation : Talk big but a yellow coward inside.
You are a pariah. Yes?
Last edited by sam1528 on 3-7-2013 06:47 PM
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nightlord posted on 2-7-2013 09:07 PM
As i have repeated myself, the Ahmadiyas believe and refer themselves as Muslims. Who are you to judge their practices when Sunni themselves are broken into so many branches.
Another example from Malaysia,
"Even though I personally don't agree with Shia teachings and even frequently criticize and debate with them, I cannot accept the approach of the allegedly democratic Malaysian government in denying the people's right to practice their faith."
(Dr. Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin, former Mufti of Perlis, Malaysia, commenting on the Ashura roundup of Shia Muslims, 18 December 2010)"
Ha ha , in that case mormons can claim that they are christians but you mainstream christians deny such. Same case for the Ahmadis. The crux of the issue is that they have broken the syahadah or no syahadah at all. How can one be a muslim without the syahadah?
Read again the statement by Dr Asri .... I have underlined it for you. You claim that the religion itself discriminate the minority. Your own reference refuted you.
Last edited by sam1528 on 3-7-2013 06:51 PM
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nightlord posted on 2-7-2013 09:12 PM
Another news article from Malaysia,
Malaysia's discriminatory policies have come under the spotlight once again as a Shia leader is still waiting his trial about three months after his detention.
Shia leader Kamil Zuhairi Abdul Aziz was arrested in December for what the religious authorities described as 'deviant teaching.'
The Shia leader had to post a bail of USD 650 to be released, according to officials.
Kamil's lawyer Mohd Haidar Mohd Hashim said that this is an unordinary practice because a person has to be charged first before he can be released on bail.
However, the religious authorities told the court that they are yet to wrap up their investigations on Kamil.
Kamil said his trial sends a wrong message to the world indicating that Malaysia is becoming increasingly hardline.
Despite the fact that 40,000 Shia Muslims live in Malaysia, the country has banned the Shia practice in 1996 which is considered unusual in the Muslim world.
I repost your reference , per your post #166
"Even though I personally don't agree with Shia teachings and even frequently criticize and debate with them, I cannot accept the approach of the allegedly democratic Malaysian government in denying the people's right to practice their faith."
(Dr. Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin, former Mufti of Perlis, Malaysia, commenting on the Ashura roundup of Shia Muslims, 18 December 2010)"
You contention is that it is the religion. What Dr Asri stated completely refutes you , mind you , it is your reference.
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nightlord posted on 2-7-2013 09:12 PM
Another news article from Malaysia,
Malaysia's discriminatory policies have come under the spotli ... Another news article from Malaysia,
Malaysia's discriminatory policies have come under the spotlight once again as a Shia leader is still waiting his trial about three months after his detention.
Shia leader Kamil Zuhairi Abdul Aziz was arrested in December for what the religious authorities described as 'deviant teaching.'
The Shia leader had to post a bail of USD 650 to be released, according to officials.
Kamil's lawyer Mohd Haidar Mohd Hashim said that this is an unordinary practice because a person has to be charged first before he can be released on bail.
However, the religious authorities told the court that they are yet to wrap up their investigations on Kamil.
Kamil said his trial sends a wrong message to the world indicating that Malaysia is becoming increasingly hardline.
Despite the fact that 40,000 Shia Muslims live in Malaysia, the country has banned the Shia practice in 1996 which is considered unusual in the Muslim world.
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by Sam1528
Did you bother to read the relevant passage about biblical Samson? Rather do you understand what you read? The question here is that he was into collective punishment , which you are in agreement. This is perverted justice. Similar to your perverted mind.
That is your opinion in the matter and since you are neither God nor a psychologists, NO ONE GIVES SHIT. 
Ok then , I await your explanation in which you will find all sorts of excuse to run away.
Explanation about what? I told you they (Saddam, Osama and Ahmednijab) had "Messiah Complex". What other explanation you need?
Do you know the difference between a noun and an adjective (in this case for the word pharmaceutical)? If you don't , go back to primary school ... where you belong
Bottomline - Pharmaceuticals means company, not medicine. End of story.
Translation : Talk big but a yellow coward inside.
Translation - Smart for not entertaining Muslim garbage. |
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Sephiroth posted on 4-7-2013 09:28 AM
by Sam1528
That is your opinion in the matter and since you are neither God nor a psychologists, NO ONE GIVES SHIT. 
I just don't understand it. How come you are such a dimwit? It is not my opinion that collective punishment is wrong. The Geneva Convention has explicitly stated that collective punishment is a crime. If you don't give a shit , it means that you have no regard for laws. In other words you are a jungle woman , only fit to live in the jungle observing the laws of the jungle.
Explanation about what? I told you they (Saddam, Osama and Ahmednijab) had "Messiah Complex". What other explanation you need?
You just made a statement without justification. Explain why you claim Bin Laden , Ahmadenijab & Saddam Hussein had 'Messiah Complex'. Why are you now trying your best to run from your own argument?
Bottomline - Pharmaceuticals means company, not medicine. End of story.
You must have learned english from the temple. Do you know the difference between a noun and an adjective? Why can't the word 'pharmaceutical' be used as a noun? Ha ha , you don't know what you are arguing about. This so embarrassing for you.
Translation - Smart for not entertaining Muslim garbage.
Ha ha , lets see , first you threatened to kill muslims but you are so afraid to meet up for a debate. Any person will view such as cowardiance on your part. Somehow to console yourself you force yourself to think you are 'smart'. Yellow in the inside and nothing 'upstairs' .... pity
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by Sam1528
The Geneva Convention has explicitly stated that collective punishment is a crime.
And Human Right Laws passed by the UN states that everyone has the right for whatever religion they choose and no one can force another to follow a specific religion and yet, thousands of missionaries and millions of dollars are spend yearly to convert people in countries like Papua New Guinea, Thailand, India, and even Japan.
Bottomline - WHO GIVES SHIT what this Whitemen says about Law and Order? They just make fools of you (Eastern boys).
In other words you are a jungle woman , only fit to live in the jungle observing the laws of the jungle.
At least in the jungle, tigers, lions, bears and elephants are more civilized than humans. If they wish me killed, they could do so openly and if I were to kill them, I couldn't follow any laws.
Why are you now trying your best to run from your own argument?
I'm not running from anything. It is you who are not a psychologist so it is useless to explain what Messiah Complex is. So why bother?
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cmf_BeachBoys posted on 3-7-2013 09:04 PM
untuk pengetahuan ko la,syiah ni bukan dikalangan orang Islam.mereka bukan orang Islam.Dan gerakan ... untuk pengetahuan ko la,syiah ni bukan dikalangan orang Islam.mereka bukan orang Islam.Dan gerakan mereka ni sama dengan gerakan kristian yang cuba memurtadkan orang Islam.
tapi mereka percaya allah , quran dan muhammad....so ? bukan islam???
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Sephiroth posted on 4-7-2013 02:56 PM
by Sam1528
And Human Right Laws passed by the UN states that everyone has the right for whatever religion they choose and no one can force another to follow a specific religion and yet, thousands of missionaries and millions of dollars are spend yearly to convert people in countries like Papua New Guinea, Thailand, India, and even Japan.
Bottomline - WHO GIVES SHIT what this Whitemen says about Law and Order? They just make fools of you (Eastern boys).
At least in the jungle, tigers, lions, bears and elephants are more civilized than humans. If they wish me killed, they could do so openly and if I were to kill them, I couldn't follow any laws.
In other words , the law of the jungle fits you like a tee. Do yourself and others a favour. Go live in a cave in the middle of the jungle. Civilisation is not home for people like you.
I'm not running from anything. It is you who are not a psychologist so it is useless to explain what Messiah Complex is. So why bother?
The rest is just nonsense from garbage.
Are you a psychologist to claim that the people suffer(ed) from 'messiah complex'? I am sure you are not a psychologist. You are just a layperson who doesn't know what you are arguing about. Can you now justify why you claim that the said people suffer from 'messiah complex'? Ha ha , you will try your best to run away from this issue as you actually don't know what you are talking about.
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by Sam1528
Your argument is incoherant. You jump from one issue to another unrelated issue like a mexican jumping bean. Are you mentally unstable?
IF you are too stupid to understand, then sorry to say. I have no obligations to teach you.
In other words , the law of the jungle fits you like a tee. Do yourself and others a favour. Go live in a cave in the middle of the jungle. Civilisation is not home for people like you.
Whahahaha ... Muslim speaks of civilizations? Good joke.
I am sure you are not a psychologist.
And how do you know I'm not a psychologist OR have access to those who practice psychology? |
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Sephiroth posted on 5-7-2013 09:16 AM
by Sam1528
IF you are too stupid to understand, then sorry to say. I have no obligations to teach you.
It appears that the dumb one is you. You don't even know that 'collective punishment' is a crime and most of the countries in this world signed up for it. Ths issue here is that you got stuck in your inability to explain why you are in support of 'collective punishment'. Suddenly you jump to the issue of missionaries going around the world. This is evidence of your incoherent thought process.
Whahahaha ... Muslim speaks of civilizations? Good joke.
What is wrong with that? The european civilization came to being thru the works of the muslim scholars like ibn Rushd. The point here is that your mentality is only suited for the jungle per your admission , post#175. Do yourself and others a favour , go live in a cave in the jungle.
And how do you know I'm not a psychologist OR have access to those who practice psychology?
Aiyoyo meenachi , you are a lousy liar. Can you now explain what is 'messiah complex' and what is your justification of you claiming the persons mentioned suffer from such? Again and again you are just farting from your mouth. Either you will run from this argument of yours or start to shit from your mouth.
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Truth.8 posted on 4-7-2013 03:02 PM
tapi mereka percaya allah , quran dan muhammad....so ? bukan islam???
ko musuh islam...macam mana dengan ilmu ko yang sedikit tu ko bleh judge diorang sebagai orang islam?
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Quote from Beachboys :
"untuk pengetahuan ko la,syiah ni bukan dikalangan orang Islam.mereka bukan orang Islam"
That is exactly my point, Sunni dont recognise Shia and Shia dont recognise .
In the middle east , they shoot each other.
In Malaysia, Sunni arrest Shia for practicing.
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Post time 1-7-2013 04:25 PM
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