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Land rights the nub of conflict with Palestinians, Dr M tells Israeli TV.

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 Author| Post time 6-5-2004 11:32 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 6-5-2004 11:29:
so what exactly did those jews say?

nf:
Read yourself lah!!!!!!!!!!! What they say exactly is unimportant, the most important thing is that they SUPPORTED Dr. M's statement. Please read the article that I have posted it before commenting further. You want to call it a lie or not is up to you but please read first, otherwise, quit spamming!!!!!!!!! Also, that is on Israeli TV, not so possible Dr. M can lie on those friends of his.nf:
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 Author| Post time 6-5-2004 11:36 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 6-5-2004 10:18:
maybe they don't exists. Mahathir must be a liar then since he cant name them.

peace


nf:That is why, you did not read when he did mentioned in the article. I wonder, did you reaD ALL OTHER ARTICLES? Also, he can't lie in Israeli TV, otherwise, he will get lawsuits from those people.

That is why, Debmey, doesn't read but talks as though he knows when he does not. He does not know and he go on MAKING SLANDEROUS REMARKS.nf:
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Post time 6-5-2004 11:36 AM | Show all posts
those guys refused to come out to defend mahathir at all, he was simply name dropping.
if indeed those fellas are such good buddies of mahathir, why didn't they speak out and be known?
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Post time 6-5-2004 11:38 AM | Show all posts
well ariya cant blame him maybe the newater contributes something that makes his IQ level going down and slow.
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 Author| Post time 6-5-2004 11:38 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 6-5-2004 11:20:
there is no need to interview mahathid. he's speech is racist and he was condemned for it. looks like he cant even stand by his speech and needs togo around apologisisng for it. hahaqhahahahahahaha ...



You make slanderous remarks again. He said, he DO NOT apologise for his remarks and that it is what he feels, and is not attacking the Jewish. In case you did not read.



Q: What is your definition of Jews?

A: When we talk about the Jews, principally we mean those who are very supportive of Israeli intransigence. We know there are Jews living in Muslim countries. Even in Iran they still have Jews and these people do not, outwardly at least, support the activities, the atrocities mounted by the Israelis. There used to be a division between Zionists and Jews and we still believe the division is pertinent. There are Jews who are ultra-nationalistic and think only of the interest of Israel, but there are other Jews in England and in other countries who are very rational.

Q: Why are you actually talking about Jews and not condemning Israel as a State?

A: We have condemned Israel as a State but the fact remains that there are many Jews living in America who are supportive of Israel irrespective of what it does.
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Post time 6-5-2004 11:41 AM | Show all posts
Where are those Jews? Why didn't they defend Mahathir if they were such good buddies of his and stood by his speech?

The real slanderer is therefore mahathir.
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 Author| Post time 6-5-2004 11:42 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 6-5-2004 11:36:
those guys refused to come out to defend mahathir at all, he was simply name dropping.
if indeed those fellas are such good buddies of mahathir, why didn't they speak out and be known?


Friends doesn't need to be buddies, just like WICKED, he being a friend yet I have not met him. Also, if he is just simply stating a name, don't you think those British governments and others will know as those are well named in those areas with one Dr. M mentioned as a British Lord??? Also, if he simply say that they supported him, when they did not, don't you think Dr. M will have plenty of lawsuits now??? When they meet and speak to each other as friends, the can say, example " Oh, what you said is true, I agree with you".
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 Author| Post time 6-5-2004 11:45 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 6-5-2004 11:41:
Where are those Jews? Why didn't they defend Mahathir if they were such good buddies of his and stood by his speech?

The real slanderer is therefore mahathir.


Do you have commonsense, if they are not real or he is slandering, don't you think those involve will file lawsuits???? Some might say that they agree but they do not wish to get theirselves involve. There are many types of friends, one being those that will fight for you, another being they mix with you, know you, your collegues, etc.
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 Author| Post time 6-5-2004 11:45 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by WICKED at 6-5-2004 11:38:
well ariya cant blame him maybe the newater contributes something that makes his IQ level going down and slow.

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Post time 6-5-2004 12:17 PM | Show all posts
I don't see any Jews standing up to agree with mahathid.
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 Author| Post time 6-5-2004 12:19 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 6-5-2004 12:17:
I don't see any Jews standing up to agree with mahathid.


I pm WICKED something, do you know the content???? Some shares his views, some shares and stand up for it, while others shares but just keep quiet about it.
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Post time 6-5-2004 12:22 PM | Show all posts
So where are they? Why didn't they speak up? What about those who spoke against? You write them off? Well, nobody withdrew their condemnation of Mahathir's speech.
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 Author| Post time 6-5-2004 12:26 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 6-5-2004 12:22:
So where are they? Why didn't they speak up? What about those who spoke against? You write them off? Well, nobody withdrew their condemnation of Mahathir's speech.


First of all, Dr. M criticised the muslims, you do not pay heed, but others, you bring it as issue. Nevermind.

You just do not get it do you, you agree and support someones views doesn't mean that you will speak up in public.

Ask this question instead, why no lawsuits filed against Dr. M for claiming those names as supporting his views and speech????
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Post time 6-5-2004 12:42 PM | Show all posts
He condemned the Jews too and all Muslism applaud him for it.
The condemning muslimspart they don't give  sh1t.

Ask this question, why so much condemnation of Mahathir and accusations of racism in his speech. Why is nobody withdrawing these condemnation, why nobody got sued?
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 Author| Post time 6-5-2004 12:49 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 6-5-2004 12:42:
He condemned the Jews too and all Muslism applaud him for it.
The condemning muslimspart they don't give  sh1t.

Ask this question, why so much condemnation of Mahathir and accusations of racism ...


First of all, as he had said, he is not condemning Jewish nor Judaism. He is condemning those who support the Israelis government's act and at first, it was refered to Israel but then the American Jewish also supported it thus the term had to change.

By the way, did you read the article I posted. PLEASE READ IT WHOLY FIRST BEFORE YOU POST FURTHER COMMENTS!!!!!

Also, nobody gets lawsuits because what he says is true.

Also, oklah, put it this way, why non of those names he mentioned supporting  his speech come up against him, refuting or rejecting his claims????
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Post time 6-5-2004 12:52 PM | Show all posts
EU & US condemned his speech, read that too. So do many Jewish organisations.
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 Author| Post time 6-5-2004 01:04 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 6-5-2004 12:52:
EU & US condemned his speech, read that too. So do many Jewish organisations.


The thing is there are Jewish who support his stand. Please read the article first before posting. please read first, please read first!!!!!!!!!nf:
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Post time 6-5-2004 03:13 PM | Show all posts
those jews never spoke out for mahathir. they have nothing good to say abt mahathir too.

cheers
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 Author| Post time 7-5-2004 10:01 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Debmey at 6-5-2004 15:13:
those jews never spoke out for mahathir. they have nothing good to say abt mahathir too.

cheers


Where is your proof. Dr. M mentioned those names which supports him, can you proof that those names did not support him???? Why don't those names sue him and reject his claim, after all, those people will surely know because Dr. M spoke in Israeli TV!!! There you go, slandering and manipulating and twisting again.
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Post time 7-5-2004 10:15 AM | Show all posts
the HARDbottomline is bro deb***sfe is hysterical for nuthin.

former malaysian pm doc mahathir is darin to say wot he wanna say.  if there those who dont agree, then say so.  dont be like mousy singapore pm who can only squeal n squeak after superdonkey bush  

peace
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