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[ILMU MUDAH]: Perbandingan Efikasi Covid-19 Vaccines.

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Post time 27-3-2021 10:57 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts |Read mode
Edited by adila39 at 28-3-2021 06:19 PM

Salam & hi everyone...

Pasti semua tengah tunggu divaksin.. But ada tak u all terfikirkan apa perbezaan vaksin ni?

Root of science :
Semua vaksin yang dicipta mempunyai matlamat yang sama iaitu membantu badan mengenali kuman COVID-19 dan melawan kuman ini dengan mengarahkan imun sistem menghasilkan antibodi, sel T limfosit atau kedua-duanya, apabila kita terdedah kepada virus COVID-19. Vaksin ini mestilah ‘selamat’ dan berkesan untuk melawan virus ini.  

Vaksin yg dicipta juga mengunakan teknologi yg berbeza :

Viral vektor
RNA
Keseluruhan virus (‘whole’ virus)
Subunit protien

Sumber : Dr Aida Badarudin - Bioperubatan.  


Saya pasti kita akan terfikir vaksin yang mana paling berkesan,  kan? Apa perbezaan antara kesemua vaksin itu.  a-ha!  Agak sukar untuk menentukan yg mana adalah lebih baik..since data kajian adalah agak sama dengan setiap satu vaksin malah kesemuanya hampir mencapai 90% perlindungan dengan dos yg optimum dan dah pun mendapat kelulusan NPRA

Definitely kita semua akan tertanya jugak which one will protect us all the most? Its a bit like comparing apples and oranges! Kesemua vaksin adalah unik,  melalui trials yg berbeza beza but paling penting it will help with Herd immunity.  Fakta penting vaccinated people had a 95% lower risk of getting covid-19.

So apa pendapat anda? Since kita pun tak boleh memilih jenis vaksin yg ada.  We go for it? Jom share ur thoughts

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Post time 28-3-2021 03:23 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Well, wlupun kita choose to be vaccinated, rgdless of which vaccine taken, does not mean kita 100% kebal. Since the objective of the vaccine is to lower the risk of getting infected, or if contracted, will lower the risk of severe/fatal effects, it is still essential for us to follow the current s.o.p.
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Post time 28-3-2021 06:34 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Nak tanya, patient yg dah/pernah kena covid, dan sembuh, perlu jugakah di vaksin? Ikut my palatao, vaksin yg jenis bukan dari mRna,
konsepnya sama mcm masukkan virus yg lemah dalam badan. Since patient yg dah sembuh (selepas 10 hari kuarantin, tiada simptom) dalam tubuh depa dah ada antibodi untuk fight covid in near future.

Tapi, ada juga kes patient yg dah kena covid dan sembuh, boleh terjangkit covid semula.. confuse di situ.. tgh dok runsing ni, since my daughter baru je habis kuarantin wajib 10 hari, selepas di diagnose positif covid & tiada simptom..
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 Author| Post time 28-3-2021 07:00 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
najib888 replied at 28-3-2021 06:34 AM
Nak tanya, patient yg dah/pernah kena covid, dan sembuh, perlu jugakah di vaksin? Ikut my palatao, v ...

good morning... of coz kena vaksin juga. sebab utk patient yg level 1&2 ni kita x boleh jangka. Usually antibodi bekas pesakit akan bertahan kira kira 8 bulan sahaja, bergantung kepada tahap jangkitan. So keberangkalian untuk dijangkiti lagi tu tetap ada. untuk ur doter since dia dah lepasi 10hari kuarantin. Jika xde simptoms.. dia boleh je lead daily seperti biasa. Kalau rasa risau boleh je buat test sekali lagi.. go for antigen sbb immediate results.. or pcr sekali lagi. ikut pertimbangan u. And lepas tu makan makanan berkhasiat and macam @Scheherazade tulis, jaga sop. Jangan risau ok.

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 Author| Post time 28-3-2021 07:03 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Scheherazade replied at 28-3-2021 03:23 AM
Well, wlupun kita choose to be vaccinated, rgdless of which vaccine taken, does not mean kita 100% k ...

betul tu... our DG penah mentioned pemakaian mask sgt membantu mengelakkan kita dijangkiti. sebenarnya covid ni pun sgt tricky.... ada our patients depa serumah and masa pegi swabs..sorang tu +ve, the other is - ve. Kadang mybe kita pun xtau dah kena or x. antibodi kita kuat atau sebaliknya... so its quite unique juga.
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Post time 28-3-2021 08:17 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Symptomatic infection tu mcm mana ek?kenapa sinovac rendah percentage?n mcm x reliable..
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Post time 28-3-2021 08:36 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
adila39 replied at 28-3-2021 07:03 AM
betul tu... our DG penah mentioned pemakaian mask sgt membantu mengelakkan kita dijangkiti. sebena ...

Yup..very tricky.. my house and parents sebelah2 je.. 6 daripada 10 tested positive covid. Padahal, the day before swab test, elok je i suap makan anak, kongsi gelas bersama my kids & wife..tido, main dgn depa..
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Post time 28-3-2021 08:40 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
adila39 replied at 28-3-2021 07:00 AM
good morning... of coz kena vaksin juga. sebab utk patient yg level 1&2 ni kita x boleh jangka. Us ...

Ooo..thanks for sharing.. sekarang ni, my doter tu, risau gak tgk dia dok main2, gaduh2 ngan adik dia.. apa depa faham pasal SOP kan.. kita yg nampak ni, nasihat je la jgn main dekat2.. tokwan depa meninggal pun rileks je mcm takdak apa2.. ye la, tak mumaiyiz lagi masing2..
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 Author| Post time 28-3-2021 09:21 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
salmon-suki replied at 28-3-2021 08:17 AM
Symptomatic infection tu mcm mana ek?kenapa sinovac rendah percentage?n mcm x reliable..

symtomatic infection ni like a symptoms yg ditunjukkan oleh seseorang tu, like batuk. asymptomatic pulak tidak menunjukkan apa apa simptoms pun walau dia dah dijangkiti. sinovac lebih rendah...still achieved 50% ke atas dan melepasi standard yg ditetapkan oleh WHO. China ni pun berahsia sangat dgn data vaksin dia ni. nanti @ipes2 give more input on this



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 Author| Post time 28-3-2021 09:26 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
najib888 replied at 28-3-2021 08:40 AM
Ooo..thanks for sharing.. sekarang ni, my doter tu, risau gak tgk dia dok main2, gaduh2 ngan adik  ...

Eh doter u umur berapa? Alahai I mmg kesian tgk budak budak naik ambulance kkm amek dgn ppe nyer... masa awal awal covid... But insyaallah budak ni antibody is developing so dia akan ok.  Jaga sop ok.
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Post time 28-3-2021 10:04 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
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Post time 28-3-2021 11:34 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
adila39 replied at 28-3-2021 09:26 AM
Eh doter u umur berapa? Alahai I mmg kesian tgk budak budak naik ambulance kkm amek dgn ppe nyer.. ...

7 yo..tgk dia ok je.. tapi, kita berjaga2 gak.. makanan dia mmg berasing sikit la dgn adik.. tengok la beberapa hari lagi..
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Post time 28-3-2021 01:39 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Pernah tanya @Dwdrum ttg vaksin dan perlu tak pakai mask lepas vaksin.. Drum komen tak salah.. Kena juga pakai mask sbb covid-19 tetap wujud mcm flu.. Jadi sy top up kn95 mask lagi 200 pcs + 150 pcs 3D 3ply mask
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 Author| Post time 28-3-2021 02:09 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
sarah82 replied at 28-3-2021 01:39 PM
Pernah tanya @Dwdrum ttg vaksin dan perlu tak pakai mask lepas vaksin.. Drum komen tak salah.. Kena  ...

ye... nak tak nak mask dah jadi keperluan wajib... so kita pakai la mask ni all d time
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Post time 28-3-2021 03:08 PM | Show all posts
death tu apa? 100% lepas cucuk confirm mati ke?
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 Author| Post time 28-3-2021 03:28 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
CiliPadiSedap replied at 28-3-2021 03:08 PM
death tu apa? 100% lepas cucuk confirm mati ke?

Eh tak,  protection from the death.. Kena cucuk terus mati tu unlikely
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Post time 28-3-2021 04:53 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
adila39 replied at 28-3-2021 02:09 PM
ye... nak tak nak mask dah jadi keperluan wajib... so kita pakai la mask ni all d time

Betul.. Maka mari lah kita top up stok mask.. Muahahahaha.
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Post time 28-3-2021 05:27 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
adila39 replied at 28-3-2021 09:21 AM
symtomatic infection ni like a symptoms yg ditunjukkan oleh seseorang tu, like batuk. asymptomatic ...

Oooo..mekasihhhhh kaka momod..urmm..skrg msia amek sinovac kan..rse mcm tak yakin nak vaksin..ntah laa..hmmm..
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 Author| Post time 28-3-2021 06:34 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
salmon-suki replied at 28-3-2021 05:27 PM
Oooo..mekasihhhhh kaka momod..urmm..skrg msia amek sinovac kan..rse mcm tak yakin nak vaksin..ntah ...


No problem.... Bukan sinovac je...

Setakat ni Malaysia gunakan ni..




Tak pasti if Johnson-Johnson ada,  macam tak
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Post time 28-3-2021 06:46 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
adila39 replied at 28-3-2021 06:34 PM
No problem.... Bukan sinovac je...

Setakat ni Malaysia gunakan ni..

Byk jgk laa y diambil yee..cansino tu sama ke origin dia?kalau drpd sana,mmg xyakin..huhu
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