I caught Menjj and a_a lie to defend sura5:51

Truth.8

They claimed there is no  such hatred verses, yet I have proof sura 5:51 is most hatred verses in their so called holy book.

Yet, menj upload his so called passage and claimed is not hatred verses.

Just observed how much lie, fabricate, con this muhammad followers did to defend thie so called islam.

Yet he called me liar but we going see the real liars, con and pretender in cari dot com. Truth.8 going to exposed the lying of islam again and again . They going to hate me for that by cursing me and etc.

u can view his lying tounge & hands at :http://forum.cari.com.my/viewthr ... &extra=page%3D1

To defend that surah 5:51 indeed promote hatred verses, I give u link from Islamic source webpage on koran verses searcher  at: http://www.islamicity.com/QuranSearch/

5:51 O YOU who have attained to faith! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for your allies: they are but allies of one another [72] and whoever of you allies himself with them becomes, verily, one of them; behold, God does not guide such evildoers.


Ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo la tattakhithoo alyahooda waalnnasara awliyaa baAAduhum awliyao baAAdin waman yatawallahum minkum fainnahu minhum inna Allaha la yahdee alqawma alththalimeena
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضٍ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُم مِّنكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ مِنْهُمْ إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِينَ


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Now all of us know the real liar to twiste and fabricate to win the debate.

[ Last edited by  Truth.8 at 15-5-2006 04:58 PM ]

Truth.8

a_a and menj consider the biggest liar. Trust me those lie going eat them sooner or later. Just matter of time.a_a and menj consider the biggest liar. Trust me those lie going eat them sooner or later. Just matter of time.

Truth.8

this what menjj claimed:

Originally posted by MENJ at 15-5-2006 04:01 PM


Surah 5:51, heh? Now here is a snapshot of that verse:




Photo taken from Yusuf Ali's translation. Now where the hell does th ...

meaning to says, koran has many version of sayings???? corrupt or man made products????

answere me nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Truth.8

still no answere?? maybe scared or takut?????

Truth.8

Originally posted by MENJ at 15-5-2006 04:26 PM


You can see the picture above. The camera does not lie. The above picture is translation of Sura 5:51 from Yusuf Ali's translation. So where is your crap translation?

Kalau dah penipu, meman ...

me waiting the real penipu here???

Truth.8

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 15-5-2006 04:38 PM



where is the translation u use? Mind paste it here and dun forget the link also,

:pmuka::pmuka::pmuka:

so u can called urself liar now???

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 15-5-2006 04:53 PM
They claimed there is no  such hatred verses, yet I have proof sura 5:51 is most hatred verses in their so called holy book.

Yet, menj upload his so called passage and claimed is not hatred vers ...

r u saying dun take any party as ally as racist?

So care to explain what below verse mean to u?

Kill all inhabitant fo the city including infant just for idolatary crime? So brutal. Hmmm Do you think Bush use this verse as his personal motto when he ordered for Iraq and Afghanistan Invasion?


Deuteronomy, chapter 13

14: Then shalt thou inquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and,
behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought
among you;

15: Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of
the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle
thereof, with the edge of the sword.

16: And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street
thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every
whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be
built again

Hmmmmmm

anti_aktivis

Christian , Muslim or Hindu as a race?

Hmmmm once a liar will always be a liar

Truth.8

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 15-5-2006 05:11 PM


r u saying dun take any party as ally as racist?

So care to explain what below verse mean to u?

Kill all inhabitant fo the city including infant just for idolatary crime? So brutal. Hmmm  ...

do not divert the topic. u says there is no such verses to not make friend Jews and Christian . and further u label me liar. are u still denying or not?

if not u consider a liar, like twiste fact and fabricate.

Truth.8

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 15-5-2006 05:13 PM
Christian , Muslim or Hindu as a race?

Hmmmm once a liar will always be a liar

does Bible says do not friends Hindus or that race?

yes in koran it has because it not frm true God calling.

God of Bible is loving not injected hatred verses.

that is the fact muslims cannot deny.

terimalah hakikat dari kamu belit2 ckp

Truth.8

menj says:

see now ur trying to run away is it? Now please inform us why u LIED and claimed that Surah 5:51 talks about the Jews and Christians when in reality the verse is talking about Prophet Muhammad?

Here it is again to refresh ur memory:


Compare it with:




The fact that you cannnot deal with this verse and start to jump into another one proves that you are a coward and trying to deviate our attention about your dubious LIE.

Truth.8

so, Menjj u agreed that ur koran has many version????

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 15-5-2006 05:16 PM


do not divert the topic. u says there is no such verses to not make friend Jews and Christian . and further u label me liar. are u still denying or not?

if not u consider a liar, like twiste ...

I am diverting?

Dude u r the one who lie religion as a race. So where is ur proof religion as a race.

Read below slowy

r u saying dun take any party as ally as racist?

So care to explain what below verse mean to u?

Kill all inhabitant fo the city including infant just for idolatary crime? So brutal. Hmmm Do you think Bush use this verse as his personal motto when he ordered for Iraq and Afghanistan Invasion?


Deuteronomy, chapter 13

14: Then shalt thou inquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and,
behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought
among you;

15: Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of
the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle
thereof, with the edge of the sword.

16: And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street
thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every
whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be
built again

Hmmmmmm

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 15-5-2006 05:16 PM


do not divert the topic. u says there is no such verses to not make friend Jews and Christian . and further u label me liar. are u still denying or not?

if not u consider a liar, like twiste ...

You don't even know in what context it was stated so in the Qur'an...

Care to explain this found in your New testament?

The Second Epistle of Paul to the
Corinthians 6


14   Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15  And what concord hath Christ with Be'li-al? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

[ Last edited by  KENNKID at 15-5-2006 05:26 PM ]

Nocturna

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 15-5-2006 05:01 PM
this what menjj claimed:




meaning to says, koran has many version of sayings???? corrupt or man made products????

answere me nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

im sorry if i bumped to ur topic..im just a passerby..anyway ur little quote seems to attract my attention..i would just like to correct sumthing...1st of all there's no such thing as VERSION of Quran..Quran has been and always the same till the judgement day thats wat.. only translation which it depends own how that person translate to his understanding.. its like u translate an article written in english to bahasa..u ask 10 person to translate..there would 10 different translation which that 10 person would translate to their understanding.i hope you would understand what im trying to tell you friend..

MENJ

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 15-5-2006 04:53 PM
They claimed there is no  such hatred verses, yet I have proof sura 5:51 is most hatred verses in their so called holy book.

Yet, menj upload his so called passage and claimed is not hatred vers ...

This guy must be on ganja or something. Please compare the following photos:





Now PLEASE tell where on earth does 5:51 say "Believers, take not the Jews and Christians...." etc.

That is the issue at hand, folks. I know that the verse Liar.8 mentioned is in the Quran but it is certainly not in 5:51, it has a different numbering. This proves that Liar.8 does not read the Quran but relies on second hand material which makes mistakes before him.

- MENJ
www.menj.org

Truth.8

Originally posted by MENJ at 15-5-2006 05:29 PM


This guy must be on ganja or something. Please compare the following photos:



http://photoblog.menj.org/images/200605151 ...

still in denying mode because i expose ur lying tounge:

read this:

Do not take the Jews and the Christians for your allies: they are but allies of one another

u mind telling me what does it mean?? does sound racist verses??

.....and mind telling why is ur so called verses different frm the link??

[ Last edited by  Truth.8 at 15-5-2006 05:36 PM ]

MENJ

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 15-5-2006 05:21 PM
so, Menjj u agreed that ur koran has many version????

I dont know why you are suddenly asking about "versions" of the Quran when it is clear that you simply cut and pasted mistakes of others and then claiming that ur translation (numbering) is correct. The phrase "bagaikan menegakkan benang yang basah" comes to mind.

- MENJ
www.menj.org

MENJ

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 15-5-2006 05:31 PM



still in denying mode because i expose ur lying tounge:

read this:

Do not take the Jews and the Christians for your allies: they are but allies of one another

u mind telling me what ...

It says what it says it is...not taking the Jews and Christians as political awliyaa or political allies for protection. It does not say that we cannot be friends with  them!

- MENJ
www.menj.org

Originally posted by MENJ at 15-5-2006 05:33 PM


It says what it says it is...not taking the Jews and Christians as political awliyaa or political allies for protection. It does not say that we cannot be friends with  them!

- MENJ
www.men ...

CORRECT...