Do women martyrs for islam get 72 studs?

Debmey

I am only telling you the truth kennkid, its in the hadith records.
Mo was in teh same house with a woman that was not his wife during teh night he alldgely tarvelled to the furthest mosque and no one witnessed it.

Oreng

Originally posted by Sephiroth at 30-8-2006 08:37 AM
Question - WHY could your Allah want to lead Muhammad to see Heaven and Hell when (with ASSUMPTION that Allah is Yahweh) Allah never did the same to other prophets?

Allah had given different power to different prophets. It is His Will. Moses was able to stagnant the Red Sea. Jesus can re-alive the dead. Abraham can stand fire burning. Many other examples.

Debmey

Why would Allah want to send power for Mo to fly to furthest mosque but have none of his comtemporaraies  witness it?

Originally posted by Debmey at 30-8-2006 08:46 AM
The problem is, no one witnessesed what Mo claimed.

Here's the true story. Mo was seen spending a night in the same house with a woman, when the people questioned him in the morning and asked hi ...

Do you have any proof to support ur claim??

Now read this below

Samuel 11:2-4  "One evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof he saw a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful, and David sent someone to find out about her. The man said, 'Isn't this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite?'  Then David sent messengers to get her. She came to him, and he slept with her. (She had purified herself from her uncleanness.) Then she went back home."  

Can tell me the moral of the story with proof up there ???

Oreng

Debmey,

I presume you actually ask why no witness for the journey, right ? The answer is it was made so, that there was no witness. There are other material things which has no witness. The 6666 Quran verses was revealed without man witnessing. This phenomenon also happen to other prophets. When Moses and Jesus reveiced revelations, there were no witness. People simply believe what the Prophets say because they are trustful. This is faith. In christianity, you believe god transcend to heaven without any one witnessing. You believe god became human, but nobody witness the transformation.

Debmey

Originally posted by SilentKiller at 30-8-2006 01:17 PM


Do you have any proof to support ur claim??

Now read this below



Can tell me the moral of the story with proof up there ???

David stayed back from a war and ended having an affair with Bathsheeba.
God was angry with him and judged him fater that.
The moral of the story? Very simple. No sex outside marriage.

Do you know that Mo had sex outside marriage many times?

David stayed back from a war and ended having an affair with Bathsheeba.
God was angry with him and judged him fater that.
The moral of the story? Very simple. No sex outside marriage.

Whats the punishment for adultery ?

Do you know that Mo had sex outside marriage many times?

Proof to back ur claim ?

Debmey

FROM THE QURAN - 70:22-30



"Not so the worshippers, who are steadfast in prayer, who set aside a due portion of their wealth for the beggar and for the deprived, who truly believe in the Day of Reckoning and dread the punishment of their Lord (for none is secure from the punishment of their Lord);  who restrain their carnal desire (save with their wives and their slave girls, for these are lawful to them:  he that lusts after other than these is a transgressor..."





This verse shows that Muslim men were allowed to have sex with their wives (of course) and their slave girls.







FROM THE QURAN - 23:5,6

"...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them..."



            Again, Muslim men were allowed to have sexual relations with their wives and slave girls.







FROM THE QURAN - 4:24

"And all married women are forbidden unto you save those captives whom your right hand possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. (Muhammad Pickthall's English translation of the Quran).





            This verse is one verse out of a long passage dealing with who Muslim men can marry or have sexual relations with. The phrase "captives whom your right hand possess", means the slave girls Muslim men own.

            Note also that this passage deals with more than just marriage.  In Sahih Muslim volume 2, #3432, the background context for this Quranic verse is given.  It relates to the events at Autus, and it permitted the Muslim men to have sex with their female slaves.







FROM THE QURAN - 33:50

"Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty;..."





            This verse is for Muhammad.  Supposedly, God allows Muhammad to have sex with his slave girls.





            These verses establish that it was permissible for Muslim men to have sex with female slaves.

Debmey

I have the proof, where are you silent killer?

nightlord

SEPH wrote.

"This means legimate marriage between two are between male and female (which by the way, your Christian societies AND Vatican City FAILED to follow with the following of cases of same sex marriage"

You must be high on something sweet heart. The vatican is strictly no divorce, and man/woman marriage ONLY.

The same sex marriages are done by non catholic churches.

And in the bible verse so quoted, Jesus said,

(Matt. 5:31-32) "And he said to them, 'Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, commits adultery against her; and if a woman divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.' " (Mark 10:11-12)

The reason for this is given in the Gospels in the words, "What therefore God has joined together, let no man put asunder.'' (Matt. 19:6, Mark 10:9.)

So a christian cannot marry another or divorce his wife. One man One woman policy.

[ Last edited by  nightlord at 30-8-2006 11:56 PM ]

Debmey

silent killer is on a chicken run after we showed proof from the Quran and ahdith that Mo had sex outside marriage. Cluck cluck cluck cluck...............................

Einard

The only one reason for me if I had to convert to Muslim. A bonus. LOL

Debmey

provided the virgins do exists of course. hard luck man.

Einard

No, marry 4 women now.. hahhaha (but of course I wouldnt)

Originally posted by Debmey at 31-8-2006 12:36 PM
silent killer is on a chicken run after we showed proof from the Quran and ahdith that Mo had sex outside marriage. Cluck cluck cluck cluck...............................

33:50 O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom God has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And God is Oft- Forgiving, Most Merciful

Read in full Debmey.

[ Last edited by  SilentKiller at 31-8-2006 03:55 PM ]

Originally posted by Debmey at 31-8-2006 12:36 PM
silent killer is on a chicken run after we showed proof from the Quran and ahdith that Mo had sex outside marriage. Cluck cluck cluck cluck...............................

You havent tell me what punishment given to David for the adultery he commited.

[ Last edited by  SilentKiller at 31-8-2006 03:35 PM ]

Debmey

I read it. Mo did have lots of sex outside of marriage. And you have no answer for it.

What was David's punishment for adultery? Read 2 Samuel 12.

I read it. Mo did have lots of sex outside of marriage. And you have no answer for it.

So?

What was David's punishment for adultery? Read 2 Samuel 12

Why cant u tell here the punishment?

Debmey

So? Thats means Mo is a serial rapist and a sinner plus a paedophile and allah doesn't know right from wrong and can therefore not be god.

So? Thats means Mo is a serial rapist and a sinner plus a paedophile and allah doesn't know right from wrong and can therefore not be god.

You havent answered the punishment for David for his adultery.