Truth Will Set You Free

hamizao · Post time 22-7-2007 10:49 PM

As difficult as it may be to know or accept the truth sometimes, I would still think that it would set you free........How so? I would love to hear your thoughts and experience on the subject.

[ Last edited by hamizao at 23-7-2007 12:50 AM ]

Agul · Post time 23-7-2007 02:12 AM

This exact words have been playing in my mind for about one year.

To be continued...

same time, same station...

wei_loon5063 · Post time 23-7-2007 12:11 PM

Originally posted by hamizao at 22-7-2007 10:49 PM
As difficult as it may be to know or accept the truth sometimes, I would still think that it would set you free........How so? I would love to hear your thoughts and experience on the subject.

I just learned the truth.......

Form is void, void is form

Agul · Post time 23-7-2007 01:11 PM

The formless?

wei_loon5063 · Post time 23-7-2007 01:24 PM

Originally posted by Agul at 23-7-2007 01:11 PM
The formless?

no no........

form is void....

form is somethin we define on the void and formless.......

say success..... what is success? people try to define success by creating form..

if I succeed but fail to fill the form that people create, I am failure...

is it not?

people fail to understand this....

the easiest and vivid example I give you....

the mega companies are selling their product by creating form in our mind in relation to their product...

meaning?

think at freedom... what people think?

free from chaotic city... in beach, free from fuss...

who say this? the mega company that want to sell holiday packages....

luxury? BMW.. why? because they show in movie that drive kancil is humiliating... is a disgrace.. say who?

people whose mind is restricted by form wont free themself... they constantly chasing the formless....

this is temporary peace and temporary freedom...

once you see that form is void in everything, you will be more free......

wei_loon5063 · Post time 23-7-2007 02:26 PM

Originally posted by Agul at 23-7-2007 02:12 AM
This exact words have been playing in my mind for about one year.

To be continued...

same time, same station...

anothing thing to fathom.......

what is free??

Does free mean you get what you want?

or free mean you are not bounded by anything and you let go and you are free.....

are you free when you can buy and get what you want? or you create more bondage ?

Agul · Post time 23-7-2007 04:09 PM

I think you're explaining form, not the formless...

The void is the point/position/state of which there is zero limits. Is it?

Agul · Post time 23-7-2007 04:13 PM

if you want to have it, you can have it.

That doesn't mean that you are in state of wanting, all the time. In fact, after certain level the more you can get the less you want, I suppose.

Abit paradoxical.

Do what you love. Not what the money dictate. But you still make money.

wei_loon5063 · Post time 23-7-2007 04:16 PM

Originally posted by Agul at 23-7-2007 04:09 PM
I think you're explaining form, not the formless...

The void is the point/position/state of which there is zero limits. Is it?

NO think deeper......

void do not mean zero limit.. but more to tak sah.. tak kekal... and tak ada pun.... ia ada sebab kita bagi dia ada

basikalgirl · Post time 23-7-2007 09:53 PM

the truth is a lie... thats what i think..

Agul · Post time 23-7-2007 10:09 PM

Is this applicable for us human?

You are human, right?

Agul · Post time 23-7-2007 10:12 PM

For me, appearance might not be the truth. Appearance may lie, truth is still true.

hamizao · Post time 24-7-2007 12:12 AM

Originally posted by wei_loon5063 at 23-7-2007 04:16 PM

NO think deeper......

void do not mean zero limit.. but more to tak sah.. tak kekal... and tak ada pun.... ia ada sebab kita bagi dia ada

How about VOID as in NOTHINGNESS? That would be limitless wouldn't it?

canna · Post time 24-7-2007 02:20 AM

Truth is always consistent wit itself, and needs nothing to help it out.
It is always near at hand and sits upon our lips and is ready to drop out before we are aware....

whereas a lie is troublesome, and sets a man's invention on the rack and one trick needs a great many more of the same kind to make it good.

ajinomotonosuga · Post time 24-7-2007 05:55 AM

truth is make believe

wei_loon5063 · Post time 24-7-2007 08:34 AM

Originally posted by Agul at 23-7-2007 10:09 PM
Is this applicable for us human?

You are human, right?

of course I am... If I am not?

yes.. applicable to us human also......

what is human? two ear, two eye, two hand etc......

primate, ape meet this yet we all do not accept the similarities....

don talk about the different species....

talk in between human......

race, religion, education....

we human give form in between human...

white looks like this... chinese looks like this, malay looks like this... etc etc......

we love ourself too much to love other people other than us

wei_loon5063 · Post time 24-7-2007 08:37 AM

Originally posted by ajinomotonosuga at 24-7-2007 05:55 AM
truth is make believe

tak boleh jadi ni......

like self deception of making believe what might not be true......

SONofODIN · Post time 24-7-2007 02:24 PM

Depends on what type of truth. Just say if someone tells you that your wife has been sleeping with another guy, this truth is catastrophic.

thamrong · Post time 24-7-2007 06:07 PM

I just learned the truth.......

Form is void, void is form

What the heck is that?

It sounds like having sex without woman....literally means wanking..

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Hakeme · Post time 24-7-2007 09:03 PM

It is always difficult....but it is not to a willing heart..

got this beautiful quote from holmes CARI e-blog..

Easy is to judge the mistakes of others
Difficult is to recognize our own mistakes

Easy is to talk without thinking
Difficult is to refrain the tongue

Easy is to hurt someone who loves us.
Difficult is to heal the wound...

Easy is to forgive others
Difficult is to ask for forgiveness

Easy is to set rules.
Difficult is to follow them...

Easy is to dream every night.
Difficult is to fight for a dream...

Easy is to show victory.
Difficult is to assume defeat with dignity...

Easy is to admire a full moon.
Difficult is to see the other side...

Easy is to stumble with a stone.
Difficult is to get up...

Easy is to enjoy life every day.
Difficult to give its real value..

Easy is to promise something to someone.
Difficult is to fulfill that promise..

Easy is to say we love.
Difficult is to show it every day..

Easy is to criticize others.
Difficult is to improve oneself...

Easy is to make mistakes.
Difficult is to learn from them...

Easy is to weep for a lost love.
Difficult is to take care of it so not to lose it.

Easy is to think about improving.
Difficult is to stop thinking about it and put it into action...

Easy is to think bad of others
Difficult is to give them the benefit of the doubt...

Easy is to receive
Difficult is to give

Easy is keep the friendship with words
Difficult is to keep it with meanings

Easy to read this
Difficult to follow