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Kelas Bahasa Jepun (Nihongo)

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Author: lin_okinawa       Show all posts   Read mode

Post time 5-9-2007 09:48 AM | Show all posts
cayalah lin..ganbatte...aku menyokong thread ni...heheh
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 Author| Post time 5-9-2007 12:26 PM | Show all posts
kalo leh setiap mlm aku akan tepek notes...
arap dpt blaja smpi kanji tros
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Post time 5-9-2007 12:38 PM | Show all posts

Reply #27 lin_okinawa's post

atleast yg sensei tak ajar kat kurasu, aku leh tau kat sini..hontou n arogatou na lin-chan..
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Post time 5-9-2007 12:59 PM | Show all posts
yup aku pong sokong thread ni! mari kite ramai2 letak notes...
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Post time 5-9-2007 03:33 PM | Show all posts
uiks ada klas bhs jepun arr.
nak nyibuk gak la...
cikgu, leh wat sample ayat tak?
cam ayat perbualan harian ke?

nak tanya word eksen ni dlm bhs jepun apa ek?
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Post time 5-9-2007 04:09 PM | Show all posts

Reply #27 lin_okinawa's post

kanji? takat nih x sampai 30 lagi huruf yg aku belajar....sikit2..tapi kalo nama artis cam Tomohisa yama#a dlm kanji tuh..aku kenal dah..heheheheh
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Post time 5-9-2007 04:16 PM | Show all posts
aku pun nak belajar gak ler kat sini...aku minat tul bahasa jepun nie tapi tak leh nak constrate sgt sbb sibuk ngan study aku yg memening kan kepala nie... aku just baca n tahu sbb layan dorama tu leh belajar gak

ganbatte ne

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Post time 5-9-2007 04:20 PM | Show all posts

Reply #32 PrincessFiona's post

ko study mana?
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Post time 5-9-2007 06:40 PM | Show all posts
wahh..cool gile! aku cam nak rasa nak copy and paste and print je (boleh x puan thread? )~

aku pon skang tgh blaja lvl 1 mandarin kat tpt aku belajar....tp susah sket nak master sbb sibuk ngan komitmen blajaa (Aceyy konon la)...rasa cam nak amek class japan plak nnt sem2 dpn yg agak2 subjek da x byk~

erm..mcmne nak panggil "sayang" dlm bahase jepun eh? (meooww gatai sungguh aku )
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Reply #30 haira's post

eksen??action??maksud ko cene??
kurang phm
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Reply #34 fa_stellar's post

bleh aje kalo ko nk copy n paste n print skali notes yg aku dh tepek

yg sayang tu maksud ko nk pggl kekasih atau husband ke?
besenye kalo kekasih ni nihonjin pggl name...name cm manje sket la
contoh "tacchan"
kalo husband besenye pggl anata....tp tk sure la plak kot ade yg lain ke...
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 Author| Post time 5-9-2007 11:20 PM | Show all posts

Nihongo Lesson 5

Telling The Topic

eigo (english) ni tkde topic phrase, tp kalo nihongo mmg ade...nihonjin ni suke mention topics at the beginning of their sentences...


at the very beginning of a statement, clarify what u're talking about....meaning kowang kene state the topic of the sentence.....mase ni la particle/joshi ni memainkn peranan....use the particle "wa" (は ) to mark the topic word...


suppose kalo kowang nk ckp psl ape yg kowang buat semlm....u start with the word for "yesterday" (kinou : きのう ), add "wa" (は ) after the word to alert the listener that "yesterday" is ur topic, and then finish the sentence.....senang kan????


contoh ayat2 ialah :-

- Kinou wa sensei ga Jon wo shikatta (きのう は せんせい が ジョン を しかった : semlm, sensei marah John)

- Sensei wa kinou Jon wo shikatta (せんせい は ジョン を しかった : cekgu semlm marah John)

- Jon wa sensei ga kinou shikatta (ジョン は せんせい が きのう しかった : John kene marah ngan cekgu semlm)

sorila kalo ayat aku cm sengal sket....tp aku arap kowang leh phm la...wpon ketige2 maksud ayat adalah same, tp topic die lelain....ayat pertame topicnye ialah "yesterday"...ayat kedue plak topiknye ialah "sensei"...dan yg ketige adalah "John"....terpulang pd owang nk letak mane satu topik nye, asalkn word order tu btol....subjek or objek di depan dan verb wajib dibelakang....

kirenye, any noun can be the topic....the subject noun can be the topic, and the object noun pn can be the topic...kalo noun tu adalah subject dan jugak topic of the sentence, then kowang kene gune topic particle "wa"....JGN GUNA "ga" + "wa" (kononnye utk mark the noun as both the subject and the topic)...

in the same way, when a noun is the direct object as well as the topic, mark it with just "wa"...JGN GUNA both "wo" ngan "wa"....
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 Author| Post time 5-9-2007 11:58 PM | Show all posts

sambungan...

Asking Questions

kalo kowang bleh form a sentence, maknenye kowang leh form a question very easily in nihongo....
unlike eigo (english), u dont hv to invert the subject n the verb when u ask a question in nihongo...dan kowang tk perlu letak tande soal jugak (? )...waktu ni la particle "ka" memainkn peranan...cam yg aku ckp dlm lesson yg sebelum ni


how u form a question depends on what u are expecting as an answer...kowang expecting jwpn "yes" or "no"?? atau are u expecting a specific piece of info cam name ke, tmpt or tarikh atau psl owang lain etc....??


Yes or No Questions

kalo nk form a question that u expect a "yes" or "no" answer, kowang cume perlu add the question particle "ka" (か ) at the end of the statement sentence dan kowang jugak perlu gune "rising intonation", just as u do in eigo (english)....

contohnye, "Jon wa kimasu" (ジョン は きます : John will come)....dan satu lg ialah "Jon wa kimasu ka" (ジョン は きます か : Will John come?).....

nmpk tk perbezaan kedue2 ayat tu??...hanye dgn tambah question particle "ka" saje, dh bleh ubah maksud ayat dan jugak bentuk ayat tu sendrik....dr ayat bese bleh jd ayat tanye...



Content Questions

kalo kite nk tanye soklan yg expects specific info or content as an answer, kite kene gune "question word" in addtion to the question particle "ka" at the end of the sentence.....cam english jugak, different question words must be used depending on what is being asked....

kt bwh ni aku kasik info psl question words...

Dare (だれ ) - Who (informal / neutral form)

Doko (どこ ) - Where

Donata (どなた ) - Who (formal form)

Dore (どれ ) - Which one (ni kalo ade pilihan 3 atau lebey)

Dochira (どちら ) - Which one (ni kalo nk pilih antare 2)

Dou (どう ) - How

Ikura (いくら ) - How much

Itsu (いつ ) - When

Nani (なに ) - What (informal / neutral form)

Nan (なん ) - What (formal form, kene tmbh "desu ka" kt blakang)



Dropping Understood Words

utk pengetahuan kowang, when it comes to speaking, nihonjin use the minimum number of words necessary to convey their meaning....ni yg kengkdgnye kowang akan dgr ayat2 yg without a subject, a direct object, a time phrase or a location phrase...besenye ayat diowang cume consists of just the verb or just the topic....

contoh ayat ialah :-

a1. Anata wa kyou watashi no uchi ni kimasu ka (あなた は きょう わたし の うち に きます か : arini ko dtg umah aku ke?)

a2. Uchi ni kimasu ka (うち に きます か :dtg umah aku tk? )


b1. Hotto doggu wa tabemasu ka (ホット ドッグ は たべます か : ko mkn hotdog tk?)

b2. Tabemasu ka (たべます か : mkn tk?)


c1. Watashi wa kinou tenisu wo shima$hita (わたし は きのう テニス を しました : I played tennis yesterday)
c2. Shima$hita (しました : I did)


prasan tk ayat die makin lame makin pendek???kalo sape yg bese tgk drama jepun tu, akan prasan yg nihonjin akan gune perkataan yg lebey pendek, dan bile gune ayat pendek ni, diowang besenye akan tnjk aksi skali...contoh cm ayat kedue tu...."ko mkn hotdog tk?"...."mkn tak?" (smbl tnjk hotdog tu)...camtula lebey kurang care dan maksudnye


smpi takat ni je utk mlm ni....kalo ade yg tk phm atau kurang phm....jgn memalu utk ajukan soklan...aku akan cube jwb ngan selengkap mungkin.....

esk mlm aku akan ajar psl pronouns plak....

oyasuminasai (goodnite)




[ Last edited by  lin_okinawa at 6-9-2007 12:13 AM ]
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Post time 6-9-2007 12:14 AM | Show all posts
wwwaaa!! konbanwa!! nadeshiko desu!! yoroshiku onegaishimasu!!

Lin san ii desu ne.. minna san no tame ni, nihon go o oshiete agema$hita. Yoku dekita ne!

Ja minna san, issho ni nihon go o benkyo shimashou!!
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 Author| Post time 6-9-2007 12:20 AM | Show all posts

Reply #39 nadeshiko's post

hai!!! issho ni benkyou shimashou!!!
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Post time 6-9-2007 06:22 AM | Show all posts
adehhhhhhhh... ni yang aku lemah nih.....

@lin, aku dengan slamatnyer telah copy ko nyer lesson2 yg ko tepek tu ke MS word
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Post time 6-9-2007 07:45 AM | Show all posts
adusss..mende cm nie le eden malu sesgt..bile owang dh pandai sesgt speaking nihon-go...

thanks lin byk mende yg kiter tau dh..
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 Author| Post time 6-9-2007 09:24 AM | Show all posts

Reply #42 Ley's post

ko malu part mane???

ooo nadeshiko ckp tu ke??
sori yer sbb aku tk traslate...

nadeshiko ckp, aku sggp ngaja nihongo demi sume owang...yoku dekita ni cm, well made gtu la kot...aku phm tp susah sket nk translate...sbb ade setengah perkataan atau ayat nihongo mmg tkleh nk tuka ke eigo....pastu die ckp lagik, die cm ajak sume blaja nihongo sesame
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Post time 6-9-2007 10:05 AM | Show all posts
lin san! nak tanye...
'wo' dgn 'o' tu sama ke atau ada dua jenis particle yang berbeza?
sbb lam kelas aku blaja 'o' untuk ayat tenisu 'o' shima#a.
manala tau sbenarnya sebut 'wo' pun sama jugak bunyik die.

Arigatou gozaimasu!
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Post time 6-9-2007 10:08 AM | Show all posts
Lin san, untuk "Dore" tu guna for bende saje ke? kalau pilih tempat boleh guna dore ke? ke guna dochira? tapi dochira untuk 2 tempat saje?

Yang ni betul ke salah?
Nihon go no kurasu wa dore desuka ka. (Kelas bahasa jepun yang mana satukah? - kat depan kite ada 4 bilik)
so nanti jawapannya cenggini ke... Ichi desu. (Kelas 1)

Ataupun guna:
Nihon go no kurasu wa dochira desu ka.

Arigatou gozaima$hita!

[ Last edited by  sh|nobu at 6-9-2007 10:10 AM ]
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Post time 6-9-2007 12:01 PM | Show all posts
biasa kalau tempat guna Doko ker? sori ler dah lama tak praktis.. dare & dochira more kepada person (orang)...

dore nih tak ingat lak...

kalau salah tolong betulkan ek

[ Last edited by  miss_mulan77 at 6-9-2007 12:03 PM ]
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Post time 6-9-2007 12:40 PM | Show all posts

Reply #46 miss_mulan77's post

tula pasal, aku pun tak blaja lagi pasal "dore".
tunggu sensei menjawabnye....hihihi...
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Post time 6-9-2007 12:55 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by lin_okinawa at 5-9-2007 11:58 PM
Asking Questions

kalo kowang bleh form a sentence, maknenye kowang leh form a question very easily in nihongo....
unlike eigo (english), u dont hv to invert the subject n the verb when ...

perasan2..sbb aku biasa tengok JDorama...hehehe..emmang ayat informal n pendek...sampai aku terbawak kat kelas...senyum jer sensei aku..hehehe
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 Author| Post time 6-9-2007 04:42 PM | Show all posts

Reply #44 sh|nobu's post

"wo" ngan "o" tu adalah particle yg same...
huruf hiragana yg same, cume sebutan aje lain sket...
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Reply #45 sh|nobu's post

pjg kalo nk terangkn, sbb yg tu dh masuk bab "pronouns"...
nk jwb soklan ko kene sentuh pronouns dlu...hehehehehe
tp tkpela, aku sentuh sket topik mlm ni....
dan mlm nnt aku terangkn ngan lebey mendlm lg psl jwpn aku tu   

tp slalunye owang gune dochira, sbb die cm menunjukkan arah...kalo dochira, jwpn musti dlm  bentuk "kochira", "sochira", atau "achira"...meaning, "disini", "disitu", "disana"

kalo dore plak lain....die bkn nunjukkan arah...jwpn utk dore mustila dlm bentuk "kore", "sore", "are"...maksudnye "ini", "itu", "itu"....

wpon soklan ko td nunjukkan yg kite tgh nk tnjk mane satu klas kan, tp dore tk sesuai digunekn...cm yg ko ckp dore tu adalah utk mende...klas tu bkn mende...klas tu adalah tmpt...kalo ko gune dore...dan ko nk kasik jwpn klas tu ialah "kore" (ini)....tk sesuai kan???

jd sbb tu kene gune dochira....wpon dpn tu ade lebey dr 2 klas....tp disebabkn die tmpt n menunjukkan sesuatu kedudukan, jd lebey sesuai menggunekan dochira...ko bleh jwb "kochira desu" (kt sini)

tp memandangkn die tmpt, elok gune doko....kalo nk pilih antare klas tu mmg kene gune dochira la


mlm karang aku akn terangkn jwpn utk soklan ni ngan lebey lanjut



[ Last edited by  lin_okinawa at 6-9-2007 04:58 PM ]
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